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Old 05-13-04, 10:45 PM
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Jonny Quest DVD censored?

Just wondering if anyone here bought this set and noticed that two lines were muted out in the episode "Pursuit of the Po-Ho".

If you have subtitles on you can see what was cut.
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Old 05-13-04, 10:50 PM
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In the missing lines, Race calls the Indians "ignorant savages" and "heathen monkeys."
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Old 05-13-04, 10:54 PM
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What a shame to censor this way!!
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Old 05-14-04, 12:37 AM
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Damn f'n head scalping savages! This censorship crap is getting to go too far!

And of course, I am slandering Warner execs, not a specific race of people.
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I thought Warner was getting better about this kinda stuff.
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But this isn't censorship. The government didn't make them do it.
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WTF !!!

"Ugowa" means "cracker ass cracker"

What hypocrites....

"Ugowa" !!

PS I just noticed it myself...
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Where are the liberals with their creative artistic freedom crap they push on us when conservatives complain.
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
But this isn't censorship. The government didn't make them do it.
I agree.
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The funny part is that they left the captions intact, like people will be offended by hearing this but not by reading it? Where's Warner's brains at?
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<Quote>Josh-da-man

But this isn't censorship. The government didn't make them do it.</Quote>


What?
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Old 05-14-04, 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
But this isn't censorship. The government didn't make them do it.
Sorry Josh, but that is of no relevance. One need not be a government official to censor. Are network censors government officials? NO traditional definition of censorship is government specific.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=censor
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Old 05-14-04, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by DVD Josh
Sorry Josh, but that is of no relevance. One need not be a government official to censor. Are network censors government officials? NO traditional definition of censorship is government specific.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=censor
THANK YOU
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Old 05-14-04, 12:33 PM
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Where are the liberals with their creative artistic freedom crap they push on us when conservatives complain.
Wow, way to throw a firebomb into this thread. Couldn't us liberals complain that this is an evil corporaton(no doubt run by conservatives) stifling creative freedom? Or couldn't we keep the partisan bickering out of a freakin' Johnny Quest thread?

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When the media edits out the gory parts of a young man being beheaded, its censorship.

When the network edits out "shit" or "damn" from a movie, its censorship.

Has nothing to do with the government.

And it is because some bleeding heart doesn't want to hurt someone's feelings. I miss the days when this wasn't an issue...and when James Bond is much more politically correct, as it is, its time for the pendulum to swing back the other way...
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Originally posted by DVD Josh
Sorry Josh, but that is of no relevance. One need not be a government official to censor. Are network censors government officials? NO traditional definition of censorship is government specific.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=censor
Yes, one does need to be a government official. Censorship, by definition involves suppression. Suppression can only be achieved through the use of or the threat of force. Only government has a legal sanction to use force, thus, only government can censor. Further, Warner owns the product and can do anything they like with it.
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If you guys get too off-topic, this thread might get locked.

Would that be censorship?
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They at least kept the native's bones in their noses. Looking like primative apes is a pretty good reason to get politically correct in a cartoon, yet they kept all that intact, why remove such a small line as "ignorant savages" and "heathen monkeys"? I don't get it. Especially since they kept the captions so anyone can read what was muted!
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Originally posted by EPKJ
Yes, one does need to be a government official. Censorship, by definition involves suppression. Suppression can only be achieved through the use of or the threat of force. Only government has a legal sanction to use force, thus, only government can censor. Further, Warner owns the product and can do anything they like with it.

Wrong, one need not be a government official.

cen·sor·ship ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snsr-shp)
n.
The act, process, or practice of censoring.
The office or authority of a Roman censor.
Psychology. Prevention of disturbing or painful thoughts or feelings from reaching consciousness except in a disguised form.

The first statement says nothing of it being by the government.

cen·sor ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snsr)
n.
A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and official dispatches to remove information considered secret or a risk to security.
One that condemns or censures.
One of two officials in ancient Rome responsible for taking the public census and supervising public behavior and morals.
Psychology. The agent in the unconscious that is responsible for censorship.

Authorized by whom? It doesn't say. Authorized by the government, authorized by the media heads. Doesn't matter.
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Originally posted by EPKJ
Yes, one does need to be a government official. Censorship, by definition involves suppression. Suppression can only be achieved through the use of or the threat of force. Only government has a legal sanction to use force, thus, only government can censor. Further, Warner owns the product and can do anything they like with it.
This doesn't make any sense, I'm sorry to say. Suppression can ONLY be acheived through the use of threat of force?!?!? That is but ONE of MANY possible ways to suppress:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=suppress
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Why am I not surprised by this Censorship? I really wish the damned PC POLICE would go very far away.

Why not just stick a sticker on the outside of the package warning of potentially offensive dialog & where it occurs. Then let we the people decide if we wish to subject ourselves to the potentially offensive dialog. Don't make these content decisions for me.
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A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
Only government can legally suppress or authorize suppression, as suppression requires the use of force. Thus, only the government can authorize anyone to suppress something. But, I wrote this before. I guess you didn't bother to read it before posting your incorrect comments.

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Originally posted by EPKJ
Yes, one does need to be a government official. Censorship, by definition involves suppression. Suppression can only be achieved through the use of or the threat of force. Only government has a legal sanction to use force, thus, only government can censor. Further, Warner owns the product and can do anything they like with it.
Disagreed ! Granted, the majority of censorship does occur at the hands of government or religious institutions, but censorship need not necessarily be institutional. Any alteration to the original content or expression of ideas in a work of art (or non-art, as frequently) for the purposes of suppressing the ideas explicitly or implicitly contained therein is CENSORSHIP. That could be as simple as someone taking a marker to black out a word or sentence in a book, where no institutional coercion would even have to be involved. If the ideas expressed by the author or originator of the underlying work are altered beyond his or her control, censorship has occurred.

And for the record, I am politically liberal AND very disturbed when any form of expression is altered for the purpose of maintaining political correctness.
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Yes, one does need to be a government official. Censorship, by definition involves suppression. Suppression can only be achieved through the use of or the threat of force.
No, one does not need to be a government official.

Such "force" could be as simple as bad public relations or protests from the ACLU. Warner is "censoring" the DVDs or "suppressing" those lines to avoid such situations. The government is not involved and the words used are 100% correct.

Just because the copyright owners of the movie/book/song/whatever are the ones deleting stuff, doesn't mean it isn't censored.
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Couldn't us liberals complain that this is an evil corporaton(no doubt run by conservatives) stifling creative freedom?
Well, why don't you then, instead of getting all pissy about some rhetoric.
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