New transfer for new Godfather releases?
05-04-04, 06:04 PM
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New transfer for new Godfather releases?
Is there a new updated transfer? Should I eBay my old set? Curious if there was anything new at all.
05-04-04, 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by New York Times - November 9, 2003
Paramount is making new digital masters of the "Godfather" films for reissue, as single-film discs, late next year....(It is not) likely to carry a banner boasting vast improvement. That would be tantamount to admitting that something was wrong with the lavishly promoted originals...An executive at Paramount blames American Zoetrope, Mr. Coppola's company, which made the digital transfers, for the quality of the DVD's. Kim Aubry of American Zoetrope — which, for what it's worth, has made several excellent DVD's — blames Paramount for providing him with poor film materials...according to a Paramount executive, who asked not to be named, the studio has hired an outsider, John Lowry, to re-do the "Godfather" discs.
Paramount is making new digital masters of the "Godfather" films for reissue, as single-film discs, late next year....(It is not) likely to carry a banner boasting vast improvement. That would be tantamount to admitting that something was wrong with the lavishly promoted originals...An executive at Paramount blames American Zoetrope, Mr. Coppola's company, which made the digital transfers, for the quality of the DVD's. Kim Aubry of American Zoetrope — which, for what it's worth, has made several excellent DVD's — blames Paramount for providing him with poor film materials...according to a Paramount executive, who asked not to be named, the studio has hired an outsider, John Lowry, to re-do the "Godfather" discs.
Originally posted by Martin Blythe - Paramount Studio Rep
To clarify: it's the same transfer, not a new one. It's just been passed through Lowry Digital's clean-up process.
To clarify: it's the same transfer, not a new one. It's just been passed through Lowry Digital's clean-up process.
Originally posted by Martin Blythe
I stand corrected. The Godfather disc will be the same as that inside the box set. Identical. No Lowry Digital pass.
I stand corrected. The Godfather disc will be the same as that inside the box set. Identical. No Lowry Digital pass.
05-05-04, 02:16 AM
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I'm going to stick with the ones I have now........if there are improved versions, they should of got it right the first time (come on studio's, this is the Godfather trilogy we're talking about!)
05-05-04, 04:58 AM
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I remember even when this came out and I was relatively new to the more technical aspects of DVD, I thought "damn, this is one hideous looking transfer."
Such a tragedy to see two of the greatest films of all time (and one coaster) get such shoddy treatment. For shame, Paramount.
Such a tragedy to see two of the greatest films of all time (and one coaster) get such shoddy treatment. For shame, Paramount.
05-05-04, 05:36 AM
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No way i would be upgrading from what is available now. The Godfather I and II are among my favorite films, but I don't watch them all that often. You can pretty much write off the entire day watching them back to back, and the discs are good as it stands.
05-05-04, 06:55 AM
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First of all it's only the first one that is coming out. No word on the other two yet. The new one does come in a keep case though. That may be reason enough for some people to sell their old ones.
05-05-04, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by orangeguy
First of all it's only the first one that is coming out. No word on the other two yet. The new one does come in a keep case though. That may be reason enough for some people to sell their old ones.
First of all it's only the first one that is coming out. No word on the other two yet. The new one does come in a keep case though. That may be reason enough for some people to sell their old ones.
05-05-04, 11:40 AM
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Paramount comes through again as always. Lol.
I gave up on this studio long ago.
The shoddy way they handled I Love Lucy drew the line for me. Not to mention the shoddy treatment they are giving to many of their franchises that made them famous and ultra rich.
It's almost sickening. VHS like transfers for a classic. Phooey.
They arent really fixing much of anything. For many of their items, they are just ripping old transfers from years ago and throwing them on a DVD.
I gave up on this studio long ago.
The shoddy way they handled I Love Lucy drew the line for me. Not to mention the shoddy treatment they are giving to many of their franchises that made them famous and ultra rich.
It's almost sickening. VHS like transfers for a classic. Phooey.
They arent really fixing much of anything. For many of their items, they are just ripping old transfers from years ago and throwing them on a DVD.
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05-05-04, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Robert
There is already an indepth discussion at the HTF.
There is already an indepth discussion at the HTF.
05-05-04, 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by kingtopher
What an elitist comment! You simply assume that someone posting here also posts there? You don't even bother to explain what HTF is. If this person doesn't post there (which I would imagine they don't, since they asked the question) then your comment serves to do nothing more than confuse them and make them feel stupid. I would think it would be pretty reasonable to have a thread about the same topic on two completely different DVD-related message boards. Jesus, some of you people need to grow up.
What an elitist comment! You simply assume that someone posting here also posts there? You don't even bother to explain what HTF is. If this person doesn't post there (which I would imagine they don't, since they asked the question) then your comment serves to do nothing more than confuse them and make them feel stupid. I would think it would be pretty reasonable to have a thread about the same topic on two completely different DVD-related message boards. Jesus, some of you people need to grow up.
What does HTF even have to do with this?
HTF is an entirely different forum. Not all members here go there and vice versa.
They arent even the same site. Probably about 1/4 to 1/3 of the people here will be in total confusion on what HTF means. lol.
05-05-04, 12:13 PM
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Here's what Martin Blythe - Paramount Studio Rep said on HTF:
Here was my response on DVDTalk:
The disappointing aspect of all of this is that Lowry Digital allegedly did a cleanup job, but it won't be used on this release. Pfft.
I'm surprised no one has remarked on the fact that our releasing the first film is designed to accommodate all those folks who asked for single releases in the first place rather than the box set. This is about giving the consumer a choice.
To respond to a number of posts, the discs are exactly the same as the ones in the box set. There was discussion of having them pass through Lowry Digital but it never got past the discussion stage.
To respond to a number of posts, the discs are exactly the same as the ones in the box set. There was discussion of having them pass through Lowry Digital but it never got past the discussion stage.
Without trying to be rude, I think "consumer choice" is complete spin-doctoring on behalf of Paramount. If you wanted to give consumers choice, you wouldn't have waited three years to individually release the titles after sales have peaked for the box set.
Now adding insult to injury, for whatever reason, Paramount decides not to fix the original problems that plaqued the box set. I guess if you fix the individual releases, than that's admission of culpability and maybe you don't want Zoetrope to be blamed
Now adding insult to injury, for whatever reason, Paramount decides not to fix the original problems that plaqued the box set. I guess if you fix the individual releases, than that's admission of culpability and maybe you don't want Zoetrope to be blamed
05-05-04, 12:16 PM
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Jesus, some of you people need to grow up.
Jesus, some of you people need to grow up.
Robert's post could have been more helpful by providing a link to the thread in question, but I don't see how his assumption that people know what HTF is somehow makes him the devil incarnate.
Try not to jump to ugly conclusions, and certainly try to avoid making personal attacks against someone who was, at least to some degree, trying to be helpful.
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05-05-04, 12:32 PM
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I think the current boxset packaging is nicer than the keepcase coming out for part I.
With that being said, I would have preferred to only buy Part I and II individually. I also think Martin Blythe's previous statement is ridiculous and a bit arrogant. The "Consumer Choice" should have been given to us when the boxset was released. It was all about milking us for Godfather III because they new few people would have bought it. Furthermore, this boxset was WAY overpriced...especially considering these films don't look great. There was obviously minimal clean-up evidenced by a lot of dirt and specs.
With that being said, I would have preferred to only buy Part I and II individually. I also think Martin Blythe's previous statement is ridiculous and a bit arrogant. The "Consumer Choice" should have been given to us when the boxset was released. It was all about milking us for Godfather III because they new few people would have bought it. Furthermore, this boxset was WAY overpriced...especially considering these films don't look great. There was obviously minimal clean-up evidenced by a lot of dirt and specs.
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05-05-04, 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Salty
And others need to lighten up.
Robert's post could have been more helpful by providing a link to the thread in question, but I don't see how his assumption that people know what HTF is somehow makes him the devil incarnate.
Try not to jump to ugly conclusions, and certainly try to avoid making personal attacks against someone who was, at least to some degree, trying to be helpful.
And others need to lighten up.
Robert's post could have been more helpful by providing a link to the thread in question, but I don't see how his assumption that people know what HTF is somehow makes him the devil incarnate.
Try not to jump to ugly conclusions, and certainly try to avoid making personal attacks against someone who was, at least to some degree, trying to be helpful.
05-05-04, 03:55 PM
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There's a sale at Circuit City next week. The Godfather Collection for $50. Check it out in the DVD Bargains section. Just for anyone who's been waiting to get it, I know I'll pick it up finally.
05-05-04, 04:24 PM
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The HTF has structured, mature discussions as opposed to here, where the discussions devolve into pointless bickering and mud-slinging.
I think its funny you say that about HTF, because they have all kinds of pointless threads that have evolved into bickering and mud-slinging. But your comment just kind reinforces the view that some over at HTF are a bunch of snobs and anal retentive folks.
Most notably the fun Alien Quadrilogy threads, and even the Godfather thread, where somebody got crucified for actually doing some reasearch with Lowry Digital
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