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claus 04-19-04 10:32 AM

Last of the mohican - another version?
 
I maybe have dreamed it but I remember I scene where Hawkey and M. Stowe where traped in a hut, than both of them stepped outside where Hawkeye pretended to shoot M. Stowe burried her in a shallow grave then left the place. The surrounding Indians how only had interest in M. Stowe left too.
Hawkeye returned, dig her up and they both go met with the rest at the waterfall-Cave.

I am not exactly sure where I saw that, maybe in a plane, or in german cinemas. but I never so that version again.

Anyone saw that version too??

Claus

chanster 04-19-04 11:02 AM

You are dreaming. Never happened in any version.

mookiemeister 04-19-04 11:39 AM

Nope. Never seen a version of the movie where Hawkeye pretends to shoot at Cora.

NaturalMystic79 04-19-04 02:47 PM

Hows the current Director's Cut barebares release with DTS sound?

Simpson Purist 04-19-04 02:50 PM

The current DTS release has decent anamorphic picture (as opposed to the initial non-anamorphic version) and great 5.1 sound to boot.

It would be nice Fox would release the theatrical cut as I think it's the superior version of LOTM.

JOE29 04-19-04 04:51 PM

Not only that, but there was a Masterpeice Theatre version of the Mohicans that was made for PBS, that I used to watch decades ago. featuring an opening narration by the recently deceased Alistar Cooke. I would love to have that version also if it ever was to come out on DVD that is.

jonjj7 04-19-04 07:06 PM

I also agree that the theatrical cut is better than the director's cut. I'd buy a theatrical version if they released it...

chente 04-19-04 07:20 PM


Originally posted by jonjj7
I also agree that the theatrical cut is better than the director's cut. I'd buy a theatrical version if they released it...
Me too.

Troy Stiffler 04-19-04 07:56 PM

Re: Last of the mohican - another version?
 

Originally posted by claus
I maybe have dreamed it but I remember I scene where Hawkey and M. Stowe where traped in a hut, than both of them stepped outside where Hawkeye pretended to shoot M. Stowe burried her in a shallow grave then left the place. The surrounding Indians how only had interest in M. Stowe left too.
Hawkeye returned, dig her up and they both go met with the rest at the waterfall-Cave.

That's pretty wicked. Doesn't seem much like Last of the Mohicans. But it sounds like a good scene. I'd like to know what movie it's actually from.

BasiaMille 04-19-04 08:19 PM

Hawkeye... my favorite Avenger
 
Well, if it's featuring Hawkeye, I'd hazard a guess (and it's kind of out of left field)...

M*A*S*H?

Yeah. No. Sorry.

END TRANSMISSION

CS

DealMan 04-19-04 09:04 PM

I'd sell my Director's cut in a heartbeat if they ever released the theatrical version, which is vastly superior.

Every single change in the director's cut except for 1 (the deletion of the "serious disagreement" line) really hurts the movie, IMHO.

NaturalMystic79 04-19-04 09:35 PM

Are there any other region releases for Last of the Mohicans which retains the theatrical version along with the DTS sound? I really want to get this release, but of course do not want the Director's Cut.

Troy Stiffler 04-19-04 09:43 PM


Originally posted by NaturalMystic79
Are there any other region releases for Last of the Mohicans which retails the theatrical version along with the DTS sound? I really want to get this release, but of course do not want the Director's Cut.
No.

mookiemeister 04-20-04 12:06 AM

I like to see the original song 'I will find you' put back in the scene of the movie where Hawkeye was looking for Cora. Why did they take that song out and put in the generic sound?

badlieut 04-20-04 06:16 AM

Probably because it's the only piece of music with vocals in the movie. It's seems out of place.

ThatGuamGuy 04-20-04 12:36 PM


Are there any other region releases for Last of the Mohicans which retains the theatrical version along with the DTS sound?
Regions 2 and 4, however, do have the theatrical cut available. Anamorphic, no less.

I get the sense that Michael Mann vastly prefers the director's cut, and that Michael Mann, in general, doesn't like to have multiple cuts of the same film packaged together (he wasn't involved in the initial 'Manhunter' disc, but part of his stipulation of the new one was that it not include the theatrical cut at all, even though Anchor Bay screwed the pooch on the original version of the theatrical cut; thus, there is no way to get the proper theatrical cut on DVD in R1).

Giles 04-20-04 12:37 PM


Originally posted by ThatGuamGuy
Regions 2 and 4, however, do have the theatrical cut available. Anamorphic, no less.


really?! specifically where?

Doc Mardan 04-20-04 03:31 PM

what's the difference in mann's cut and the theatrical cut?

jonjj7 04-20-04 05:55 PM


Originally posted by Doc Mardan
what's the difference in mann's cut and the theatrical cut?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104691/alternateversions

NoxHaveN 04-20-04 06:39 PM

so no chance of a R1 theatrical release then? :(

Guess it'll have to be the director's cut for me.

-NHN

Doc Moonlight 04-20-04 07:49 PM

I'd like to see the silent version that featured Bela Lugosi as Uncas.

NaturalMystic79 04-20-04 08:43 PM

If anyone has a link to where I can purchase the theatrical cut with DTS please post it! I want this movie, but will not buy the extended edition.. I've heard bad things about it.

chanster 04-20-04 09:21 PM

You cannot buy the theaterical version with DTS. You can buy the old theaterical version R2 (above poster says R4 as well - I am not sure about that though) but Dolby Digital.

I believe the theaterical version's video quality is poor, comparable or worse to the non-DTS directors edition that came out R1.

SunMonkey 04-20-04 09:33 PM

Someone should start a petition.

NaturalMystic79 04-21-04 11:01 AM

I hate how some of the best movies get the worst DVD treatments.

Pants 04-21-04 11:30 AM


Originally posted by mookiemeister
I like to see the original song 'I will find you' put back in the scene of the movie where Hawkeye was looking for Cora. Why did they take that song out and put in the generic sound?
Probably because it's awful John Tesh quality new age crap music and it doesn't fit in the film.

Nocturnaloner 04-21-04 05:36 PM

Mohicans - theatrical cut
 
Review of the R4:

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews...p?ReviewID=967

and the R2:

http://www.dvdbreakdown.com/titles/l...emohicans.html

Multi-region has been a given for me for so long now, it kinda boggles my mind that some tend to feel like 'it isn't out' unless it's in R1. Seriously folks, for minimal expenditure, you get a huge payoff. This is only one example...

dvdaddiction 04-21-04 06:58 PM

Re: Mohicans - theatrical cut
 

Originally posted by Nocturnaloner
Review of the R4:

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews...p?ReviewID=967

and the R2:

http://www.dvdbreakdown.com/titles/l...emohicans.html

Multi-region has been a given for me for so long now, it kinda boggles my mind that some tend to feel like 'it isn't out' unless it's in R1. Seriously folks, for minimal expenditure, you get a huge payoff. This is only one example...

This is a region 1 forum, so we discuss region 1 dvds. I am an advocate of multi-region players as much as anyone but there is a place for discussions of non-region 1 dvds (International DVD-Talk).

-dvdaddiction

Mike Lowrey 04-21-04 08:04 PM

I was a bit disappointed in the DD 5.1 mix on the Director's Cut. It was a bit weak. Sounded mono at times. Because the movie was recorded in Dolby Stereo, not even Dolby Surround

NoxHaveN 04-22-04 02:44 PM

After reading all the reviews and comparisons on the various releases and versions of the film, I've yet to see a "good" version. Each release suffers from its own shortfalls, albeit some fall much shorter than others.

Bottomline.... Is there going to be a new release to fix the existing problems with transfer of the original Theatrical version? If so, I think it'll be worth the wait. If not, I guess I'll just have to settle.


-NHN

NaturalMystic79 05-31-04 12:58 PM

I want the theatrical version bad enough, so I'll probably go with the R2 DVD.

Shroud 05-31-04 09:05 PM

So which is the better version of the movie? The region 1 DC with DTS sound or the Region 2 Theatrical with DD5.1?

NaturalMystic79 05-31-04 10:47 PM

It all depends on which you value more: DTS sound or theatrical version.

Falc04 07-22-04 02:17 PM

Saw the Director's edition last night night, and have to agree with most people here. My old laserdisc version sounded alot stronger, and the "cut" scenes were sorely missed.

groundhog 07-22-04 02:34 PM

I just posted this in the forum concerning directors cuts, but my comments seem to fit more perfect in this forum about The Last OF The Mohicans. I can't agree more the laserdisc sounds much better. If you got 'em, hang on to 'em!

Posted under directors cuts.....
Since we are talking about directors cuts of movies, is it frustrating when a directors cut is the only version available on DVD? What comes to mind is The Last Of The Mohicans. My personal opinion is the dirctors cut is absolutely horrid and I am shocked that Michael Mann would consider the DVD the preffered cut of the movie. The DVD has some of the great music completely taken out, and the sound is nowhere close to the Laserdisc. I will be hanging on to my laserdisc, and have already sold the worthless DVD.


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