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hold up, so the wedding flashbacks are not in the region 2 dvd?
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Nah, he just meant that there are still other B&W scenes in the Japanese cut.
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Think I will wait for the Ted Turner Colorized Edition to come out.
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so was the black and white fight not meant to be black and white? was it done for too much blood or what?
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I think that PQ is a disappointment especially for a such a recent movie. Although colors are very good and accurate, I feel that this transfer lacks details. Larger objects are fine but smaller ones are certainly not. For example, in the first fight scene, I could hardly make out any details on Uma's face when she is a bit further away (e.g., a shot that displays her from head-to-toe). Revolution and 21 Grams are much better.
P.S., My viewing equipments comprise of a 50" LCD RPTV and the Bravo D1 DVD player connected through DVI and upscaled to 720p. |
Originally posted by REL77 i thought it was a very good solid transfer, hopefully the SE will be top notch |
I think that PQ is a disappointment especially for a such a recent movie. Although colors are very good and accurate, I feel that this transfer lacks details. Larger objects are fine but smaller ones are certainly not. i'd rate the PQ on this disc as only a B- parts of the film looked quite striking- but that was more because of the way it was shot and not the quality of the disc. check out the begining of chapter 4 (the overhead shot in the kitchen) ringing around many of the edges and just a generally harsh, electronic look to the image. lots of filtering apparently too as fine details seem to come and go within the same shot at times. i was using a Toshiba 5960 and Panasonic RP56 fed via a component/rgb cable into a NEC HT1000 projecting about 70" wide |
I just watched it last night (ISF'd 61" Sony, Panasonic RV80 DVD player) and thought the colors were very strong (probably because of the way it was shot as the last poster just said), however the picture looked a bit too filtered and definitely too grainy. It didn't look like film grain either --- more like compression artifacts.
However, as far as I am concerned, most Disney DVDs --- Mirimax, Vista, etc. look like sh*t....usually edge enhancement, artifacts, etc. |
Originally posted by isamu SE? SE = Special Edition |
Originally posted by CrashNBurn69 so was the black and white fight not meant to be black and white? was it done for too much blood or what? |
Originally posted by RyoHazuki It was changed from color to B&W to appease the MPAA who were going to give it an NC-17 rating but QT later said that he prefers the scene in black and white. It was always planned to be in B&W - it's written that way in the screenplay (the one that was circulating around the 'net about a year before Volume 1 was released). This has been discussed many times in various threads here. |
Yes he wrote that in the screenplay because he knew the MPAA would never let that pass. Why would he otherwise have used the kind of blood that looks almost transparant in black and white, and why else is he right now planning a director's cut of both films with the house of blue leaves scene in color?
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This is all being discussed in another kill bill thread right now, not sure why this thread hasn't merged with that one just yet.
But yeah, the picture quality on the R1 release is absolutely fine. Any kind of grain or any kind of 'soft' picture qualities you may notice... that's the way it's supposed to be. It's too bad that not everybody can appreciate what QT was trying to achieve with this film, and instead go into a confused frenzy complaining about the black and white scenes and the soft picture at times and the bleeping out of 'The Bride's name. |
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