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Old 03-24-04, 11:56 AM
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Micro$oft & Bill Gate$
Luca$
Pay$al/E$ay
Di$ney
Wa$mart
Blockbu$ter
Be$t Buy
$uncoa$t
Joe $ Pack

Hey, why be limited by technicalities?

I guess Suncoast is twice as evil as those other places. The only place I think is truly the devil's hideout is not even on that list. It is K-Mart.

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Originally posted by resinrats
Lets see, the people/companies that are 'evil' by internet forum users are:

Microsoft & Bill Gates
Lucas
Paypal/Ebay
Disney
Walmart
Block Buster
Best Buy
Suncoast
Joe 6 Pack

Feel free to add a $ into any name that has an 's' in it.

re$inrat$
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eBay is not evil! Talk about a perfect place to hock your duplicates for a decent amount of $, and plus, where the hell else would you be able to find OOP titles to easily? eBay is a godsend for that kind of collecting.
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Given that the new television standard is widescreen, the whole "omg they're going to stop making widescreen dvds!" conspiracy is going to go away in a few years.
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Originally posted by resinrats
Lets see, the people/companies that are 'evil' by internet forum users are:

Microsoft & Bill Gates
Lucas
Paypal/Ebay
Disney
Walmart
Block Buster
Best Buy
Suncoast
Joe 6 Pack

Feel free to add a $ into any name that has an 's' in it.
I think IBM is considered evil as well.
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Actually the whole 'if you don't buy WS,they will stop stocking WS' at Wal-Mart is rather ridiculous,since WM stocks FAR more P&S than WS. Never an exact equal amount of both.

So even if we bought every WS edition they stocked. They would just replace that with P&S. It happens all the time,once the WS version is sold out. They will then only stock P&S regardless of what sold more.



A friend of mine was like "oh cool,Jaws is only $9.88!" last time we were there,then he was immediately disappointed & said "look P&S!". Dug through the other copies they had,all P&S. We then talked aloud how much P&S sucks & we will be buying elsewhere,which got us some looks from customers & clerks

Anyway looking at other P&S/WS release such as Grease + various new releases that are a few months old. They only had P&S. So the few WS copies they had did sell,but that never made them restock WS.

So it would be best to just not support them as much & shop elsewhere instead. Sure you may find the ocasional good deal,so buy it if you like & it is the correct OAR version. But otherwise go elsewhere at all costs.
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I have never had a cashier ask me that in any of the stores I've ever purchased a dvd. I'm starting to wonder it it's an urban legend.
I had it happen once: with Chicago. The boxes were very similar, so they were double-checking with everybody (regardless of what version they got).
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Originally posted by Julie Walker
Actually the whole 'if you don't buy WS,they will stop stocking WS' at Wal-Mart is rather ridiculous,since WM stocks FAR more P&S than WS. Never an exact equal amount of both.

So even if we bought every WS edition they stocked. They would just replace that with P&S. It happens all the time,once the WS version is sold out. They will then only stock P&S regardless of what sold more.



A friend of mine was like "oh cool,Jaws is only $9.88!" last time we were there,then he was immediately disappointed & said "look P&S!". Dug through the other copies they had,all P&S. We then talked aloud how much P&S sucks & we will be buying elsewhere,which got us some looks from customers & clerks

Anyway looking at other P&S/WS release such as Grease + various new releases that are a few months old. They only had P&S. So the few WS copies they had did sell,but that never made them restock WS.

So it would be best to just not support them as much & shop elsewhere instead. Sure you may find the ocasional good deal,so buy it if you like & it is the correct OAR version. But otherwise go elsewhere at all costs.
Maybe WS is being bought at a much higher rate than FS. I know at Best Buy, they had a ton of FS Indiana Jones left over, because everyone came in and bought the WS. So, if you came in a week later, it would look like BB stocks alot more FS then WS - which was not true at all.
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Originally posted by resinrats
Lets see, the people/companies that are 'evil' by internet forum users are:

Microsoft & Bill Gates
Lucas
Paypal/Ebay
Disney
Walmart
Block Buster
Best Buy
Suncoast
Joe 6 Pack

Feel free to add a $ into any name that has an 's' in it.
Its funny because I have no problem with any of these companies/people.
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Originally posted by Julie Walker

So even if we bought every WS edition they stocked. They would just replace that with P&S. It happens all the time,once the WS version is sold out. They will then only stock P&S regardless of what sold more.


I always thought the in store computer keeps tabs on what is needed for re-order. I'm sure p&s and ws have different stock numbers. So, unless someone manually imputs to reorder only p&s; your theory is invalid. Or maybe your right; maybe there are only re-orders for p&s on their computer and not ws, but I'm sure you can always ask them to order it for you if it's not in stock. I don't know; just wanted to put in my 2cents.
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I was @ Blockbuster recently and they had a Fullscreen/Widescreen comparison sheet by the register. While it did not say if one was better than the other it clearly showed how Widescreen is the better of the two, through the screen shots showing the cropped fullscreen pic as opposed the the widescreen image. Don't know if this is standard at all Blockbusters, but it was good to know that they are trying to steer customers in the right direction.
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Old 03-24-04, 03:23 PM
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Re: Re: Thank Wal-Mart For Pan & Scan DVDs

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Can the socialist drivel. Walmart employees voluntarily agree to work there. No one puts a gun to their heads. Walmart, as a business, has a right to carry or not carry anything they choose. That is called capitalism and individual rights. So, stop whining and shop elsewhere.


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If Widescreen TV becomes the standard later on, I bet you'll hear people complaining about the vertical black lines on pan and scan movies.

I've told many people about the benefits of Widescreen movies and they still think fools screen is better, its an on going battle.
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Yet another reason to be region free. You can choose the best from around the world and not have to worry about a full screen mix-up.
I've only been to Wall Mart two or three times but every time I've overheard employees complaining about the working conditions.
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the thing I don't like about my local WalMart is that 9 times out of 10 only the FS version will be the 1 on sale. example, I was going to buy Johnny English because they had it for 15.xx but when I got to the register(with my WS copy) they tried to tell me it cost 19.xx.
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Re: Thank Wal-Mart For Pan & Scan DVDs

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The months long grocery store strike here in southern California was the result of stores not wanting to pay their union employess health benefits because Wal-Mart doesn't do it. Thus Wal-Mart gets a bunch of desperate people to work there for practically nothing, discounts their groceries more than regular stores and puts them out of business because they can't compete.
Off topic...but if those Wal-Mart drones aren't smart enough to unionize to get their fair share...that is their own stupid fault. There isn't a thing you and I can do when people don't use the common sense they were born with. I'm not pro-union in the least bit. But they do serve a purpose where a corporation takes advantage of it's workers. Wal-Mart does this. Most workers are part-time thus no benefits. They make a low wage. Most managers and promotions are male (huge court case pending about this). There is no law that says the workers can't form a group to act as one voice to stop the abuse. Whether they know and realize that I have no idea. If you want a company that treats its workers right...research Costco. And guess who is kicking Sam's Club As* up and down the street. You guessed it. Funny Costco's workers aren't union either...
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I originally said that Wal-Mart will not carry Widescreen versions if they don't have to. Most, if not all of the examples cited above, only came out in letterboxed editions, so they had no choice. They may not be destroying the world, as I said with, admittedly angry hyperbole, but most people who defend Wal-Mart are those who subscribe to: I WANT WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT IT AND THE HELL WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'm not a member of a union, I'm not a socialist, I'm just someone who can see the writing on the wall. The next time you buy that box of Tide detergent at Wal-Mart's cheap prices, think of how much you'll pay for it once they become the only store in town. They do not support Widescreen DVDs and their influence on the companies who produce DVDs may be stronger than you think. They are the number one retailer in the country.

Is all this paranoia based on urban legends? It could be; I'm quite a reactionary when it comes to our corporate run world, but I'm more than willing to listen to contrary arguments. And yes, I choose not to shop at Wal-Mart, though someday I may not have any choice. But I would like to know why MGM did not release a letterboxed version of a 16 year old film? Couldn't find any good prints?
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I try not to buy DVD's from Wal-Mart. They do offer WS and FS versions of films, but I hate having to ask someone to open the case for me to get one out. I either use Best Buy, Circuit City, or online to get dvd's.

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Re: Re: Thank Wal-Mart For Pan & Scan DVDs

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Off topic...but if those Wal-Mart drones aren't smart enough to unionize to get their fair share...that is their own stupid fault. There isn't a thing you and I can do when people don't use the common sense they were born with. I'm not pro-union in the least bit. But they do serve a purpose where a corporation takes advantage of it's workers. Wal-Mart does this. Most workers are part-time thus no benefits. They make a low wage. Most managers and promotions are male (huge court case pending about this). There is no law that says the workers can't form a group to act as one voice to stop the abuse. Whether they know and realize that I have no idea.
Well the reason why WM workers won't attempt to get unionized,is based on fear of job loss(many of these people it is the only job for them..& WM takes full advantage of that)...since WM fires people who attempt to get unionized.

I decided to see what WM was really like. So I applied for a job. They make you sit through a ten hour orientation(supposed to be 8 hours..still excessive..but some old people with faulty memories..keep holding us back,talking about their kids & blah blah blah),all cramed into a tiny claustriphobic grey room with no ventilation. Durring this 10 hour brainwashing session. They force you to view countless propaganda videos. One of which,goes into detail on the evils of unions & why they are not needed.

The training lady,then goes on to tell us about what happens to people who try to get unionized. They tell us unions rip us off,are no good & just bad bad bad. When asked why WM does not have a frozen food/meat section anymore. We were told,the butchurs attempted to get unionized. So WM fired them all & got rid of the meat/frozen section!

Anyway I left after three days,since it was a slave driving job with shitty measily pay. I did attempt to see if there 'open door policy' was legit or not. This is why they claim they don't need unions,you can talk to any of the higher ups without fear,they will listen to you. Yeah right. ps..i had applied for part time days anyway because of college. Yet they kept telling me in the interview to take the fulltime nights job..then could transfer in a month when school begins..so I took them up on the offer,sounded good at the time. I did learn something,NEVER trust WM...evil evil corporation!!!

I told them about starting college soon,which was true..& that I would not be able to work fulltime overnights..but was interested into transfering over into days/evenings..since I would be available after school blah blah blah. I was told "yes..you can do that,education is important..I will let your supervisor know!". Then the next night..my super,intimidates me about my inquiry..telling me 'no absolutely not!'..& said I had two choices,either work there,forget school,or leave. I complied,which made her feel all great. But hehe,I had a plan.

She was telling me to work alone in the hardware section & that every pallete(about 5 or more,all stacked high!) had to be done by 6am..but it was only 2am!!! + add in the fact,that I was never told where everything is & should be placed since i had never worked that area before. So it would take forever to figure it all out.

I worked for about 15 minutes,then calmly walked into the back,punched out,grabbed my lunch bag..& strolled on out of the store grinning & said '**** it'...that place is not worth working for at all.


For more inside news of what WM is really like. Check out a book entitled Nickled & Dimed. It basically says what exactly I experiance there durring my brief glimpse inside.
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As a Wal-mart employee i must say, We have no control over what we carry. One of our head executives way WAYYY up the chain decides what we get in the stores. Its sad to say but. Wal-mart is only trying to sell widescreen versions of films when they are a new release. Ths budget cubes are almost all fullscreen....check it out for yourself.
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Wow, great story from Julie Walker, but what a nightmare. I think if you had stayed an employee at Wal-Mart any longer you would have had to be kidnapped, tied to a chair and de-programmed. I actually read Sam Walton's biography years ago and while he was no saint, he did have some good ideas about the retail business, most of which have been obliterated by the corporation since his death.

Screw Wal-Mart, screw Blockbuster and while I'm at it, screw Paramount and Columbia for their overpriced, no extras DVDs! I'm on a roll here; live with it.
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Hey Julie you should work for "60 minutes"! Great investigative reporting

A friend once told me (yeah I know, great source...) that WM once served as a money laundering source for the FBI...

Could that be true?
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Originally posted by ProfessorEcho
I'm quite a reactionary when it comes to our corporate run world, but I'm more than willing to listen to contrary arguments. And yes, I choose not to shop at Wal-Mart, though someday I may not have any choice.
Now, that's a bizarre statement. The way WM is run (according to this thread) sounds more like reactionary than conservative or liberal. Make up your mind.
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Now, that's a bizarre statement. The way WM is run (according to this thread) sounds more like reactionary than conservative or liberal. Make up your mind.
LOL. Semantics, semantics.... As Bill Clinton once said: "It all depends on what your definition of is is."
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