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Class316 02-20-04 01:00 PM


The FBI said Thursday it is giving Hollywood film studios, music companies and software makers permission to use its name and logo on their DVDs, CDs and other digital media in hopes the labels will deter consumers from making illegal copies.

FBI officials said the idea was conceived jointly by the agency's cyber crime division and representatives of the entertainment and software industries, who claim they've lost billions of dollars due to digital piracy.

"This anti-piracy seal should serve as a warning to those who contemplate the theft of intellectual property, that the FBI will actively investigate cyber crimes and will bring the perpetrators of these criminal acts to justice," said Jana Monroe, assistant director of the FBI's cyber division.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/0....ap/index.html

This shows how desperate they are :lol:! God Bless the Internet.

MJKTool 02-20-04 02:37 PM

No OAR = No Sale

Cocopugg 02-20-04 02:58 PM


Originally posted by jough
It is not nor has it ever been legal for you to make backup copies of your DVDs, if only because it is illegal under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act to circumvent DVD's copy protection (remember deCSS?).

So yes, you can't legally make a copy of the DVDs you purchased. Doesn't that piss you off?

How about if Studio heads decide to produce DVDs that "mysteriously" won't play anymore (like those disposable DVDs Disney tried to release) a couple of months after being purchased. We'll all need to buy and rebuy our favorites...Sounds like Hollywood is sitting on a goldmine here...Won't even need to move up to the HD DVD format, our regular DVDs will all stop working eventually...I better stop before I give them too big an idea ;)

colossus 02-20-04 03:16 PM

Re: Re: FBI to put "seal" on DVDs
 

Originally posted by calhoun07
I personally have no problem with this, as I don't copy DVDs and I don't transfer DVD files to my computer to allow people to upload. The only people who would have a real problem with this are those already breaking the law.
Hmmm...your take is kinda black-and-white on this.

I have a problem with this- I don't want my tax dollars used to police a problem in private industry. This is completely, totally, absolutely a crock.


Originally posted by Cocopugg
Their boring interruptions at the beginning of every DVD has done alot to stop piracy so far. It's good to know they'll now delay the start of our movies by several more minutes. That'll help alot.

Like copy protection on software, these copy warnings exist exclusively to punish those that don't have illegal copies.

jough 02-20-04 03:48 PM

Colossus - the expense would be shifted to the consumer, not your tax dollars. The FBI is simply allowing its IP to be used in stickers produced and paid for by the studios.

GuessWho 02-20-04 04:05 PM

I'm gonna club these seals

abbatazappa 02-20-04 04:13 PM

...and UPC symbols did nothing to detract from artwork on magazines when they were introduced in the early 80s. I am totally against any kind of "sticker" on my DVD covers.

drjay 02-20-04 05:29 PM

Why don't they realize that people who buy DVDs aren't the main copiers...it's rental people that copy. Who would buy a DVD in order to copy it? That's just rather silly (unless you're lending it, which I know I don't do anymore since most people do not respect the disc!).

Jackskeleton 02-20-04 05:44 PM


Originally posted by drjay
Why don't they realize that people who buy DVDs aren't the main copiers...it's rental people that copy. Who would buy a DVD in order to copy it? That's just rather silly (unless you're lending it, which I know I don't do anymore since most people do not respect the disc!).
So would you be suggesting that two versions of the films be made? One for rental companies and one for retail? With the rental copies being the ones that carry a heavy FBI warning on them and the retail not having much at all? Perhaps you don't lend yours out but it's pretty clear that other people do... As seen in this little article

In either case, this is just a bump on what they are already doing so that they can show you that they mean business and to highlight that it's a FEDERAL crime.

jough 02-20-04 06:29 PM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
As seen in this little article
That's a Canadian article anyway, and you know how THOSE people are. ;)

bodomnet 02-20-04 09:13 PM

Now as a UK fan it does not affect me really, but they have been making CDs with this copy protected stuff and it has caused alot of bother.
Most did not work in car CD players and older steros.
So lets hope the same issues dont rise with DVD.

davidvp 02-20-04 09:25 PM


"Speed checked by Rader" sign ...
Doug Rader? The former Houston Astros' third sacker??

:)

RaynMan2019 02-20-04 09:38 PM

What a bunch a crock o' shite this is! 'Nuff said!

Jackskeleton 02-20-04 11:38 PM

Nuff said about what? It's a new logo for christ sakes. I don't see why it's an issue and I pirate things. Aye! (oh wait.. perhaps I shouldn't announce that) In any case will this work? Not really, but it's the thought that counts. ;) Will this screw up your dvd? No. it's the same ol' dvd with a nice little logo.

Is this anything on the disc like what they did with CD's a while back which made them non-recordable on PC unless you marked it with a magic marker? No. this is a freak'n logo. some folks just don't seem to get how little this will effect anyone. :p

RaynMan2019 02-21-04 01:17 AM

If it's just a new logo, what's the big deal? Like I was saying about the 'nuff said remark was reffering to the fact this is being to seriously and which it shouldn't.

eau 02-21-04 01:28 AM

Let's hope it isn't a permanent sticker on every artwork or digipak.

Jackskeleton 02-21-04 01:34 AM

yeah, cause that one currently on your dvd's on the back that has FBI in a black box is such an eyesore..

RaynMan2019 02-21-04 02:36 AM

Agreed 100%!

Okheresthedeal 02-21-04 04:00 AM

As for the current warnings being used - I have complete faith that the FBI/Interpol screens at the beginning of DVDs have stopped more than a few pirates in their tracks. I just get this picture of walls of DVD burners all loaded and blinking pause, ready to begin their wanton felonious crime spree when suddenly, the prirate pauses and reads the red screen. "Oh my God, Han, did you ever read this thing at the beginning . . . . . "

bodomnet 02-21-04 11:55 AM


Originally posted by drjay
Why don't they realize that people who buy DVDs aren't the main copiers...it's rental people that copy. Who would buy a DVD in order to copy it? That's just rather silly (unless you're lending it, which I know I don't do anymore since most people do not respect the disc!).
I totally agree with you.. Most of the major pirate groups don't rent I would not say.. but yeah for home use lots of people back them up to divx or vcd, and DVD-R now.

jough 02-21-04 01:15 PM

I don't know, the new seal could help to IMPROVE some cover art:

http://jough.com/dvdfile/MatrixPiracy.jpg

arthur_dent 02-21-04 11:05 PM


Originally posted by jough
I don't know, the new seal could help to IMPROVE some cover art
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...zkit/sweat.gif

chemosh6969 02-21-04 11:14 PM

So they aren't adding a music video by last decade's popular(in some eyes) artist Seal to each dvd?


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