DTS vs. THX certified and why not both?
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02-18-04 | 02:31 PM
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"The DTS versions are funnier"
02-18-04 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Green Jello
It is a totally separate issue, but people keep bringing up the case of the first Highlander release. The video quality problems with the disc, was the fault of THX at all. The production company wanted to rush out the release of the disc, but they didn't have a very good film master for THX to work with. THX did they best they could with what they were given. Later on, the newer release looked much better because it was made from a better film master.
It is a totally separate issue, but people keep bringing up the case of the first Highlander release. The video quality problems with the disc, was the fault of THX at all. The production company wanted to rush out the release of the disc, but they didn't have a very good film master for THX to work with. THX did they best they could with what they were given. Later on, the newer release looked much better because it was made from a better film master.
THX was originally brought in to certify a video transfer for Highlander on laserdisc. They collected the best film elements they could find, cleaned them up, and the resulting product was a pretty good-looking laserdisc.
When it came time for DVD, the studio used the exact same laserdisc master and asked THX to certify it again. They did. The problem is that DVD authoring is a lot more complicated than just the video transfer portion of things. There is also digital compression to take into account. This was the early days of the DVD format and THX honestly didn't have a clue about anything to do with compression. The DVD that got released had an acceptable (considering it was non-anamophic) film transfer but absolutely horrible video compression.
That THX put their stamp of approval on this disc despite its blatantly obvious authoring flaws is disgraceful, and they deserve all the criticism they've taken for it.
02-18-04 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Z
What you've said here is actually not in any way correct.
THX was originally brought in to certify a video transfer for Highlander on laserdisc. They collected the best film elements they could find, cleaned them up, and the resulting product was a pretty good-looking laserdisc.
When it came time for DVD, the studio used the exact same laserdisc master and asked THX to certify it again. They did. The problem is that DVD authoring is a lot more complicated than just the video transfer portion of things. There is also digital compression to take into account. This was the early days of the DVD format and THX honestly didn't have a clue about anything to do with compression. The DVD that got released had an acceptable (considering it was non-anamophic) film transfer but absolutely horrible video compression.
That THX put their stamp of approval on this disc despite its blatantly obvious authoring flaws is disgraceful, and they deserve all the criticism they've taken for it.
What you've said here is actually not in any way correct.
THX was originally brought in to certify a video transfer for Highlander on laserdisc. They collected the best film elements they could find, cleaned them up, and the resulting product was a pretty good-looking laserdisc.
When it came time for DVD, the studio used the exact same laserdisc master and asked THX to certify it again. They did. The problem is that DVD authoring is a lot more complicated than just the video transfer portion of things. There is also digital compression to take into account. This was the early days of the DVD format and THX honestly didn't have a clue about anything to do with compression. The DVD that got released had an acceptable (considering it was non-anamophic) film transfer but absolutely horrible video compression.
That THX put their stamp of approval on this disc despite its blatantly obvious authoring flaws is disgraceful, and they deserve all the criticism they've taken for it.
Anyway, this is getting off topic. I was simply trying to explain to the less informed that THX has nothing to do with a DVD containing DTS or Dolby Digital.
02-19-04 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Green Jello
That very well may be true, but when I asked the guys at THX specifically about this disc, that's not the story they gave me.
That very well may be true, but when I asked the guys at THX specifically about this disc, that's not the story they gave me.
They claimed that the original master was terrible and there was little they could do with it.
THX is trying to pass the buck for this botch-job, even though the whole purpose of their program is supposedly that the buck stops with them.
02-19-04 | 01:41 PM
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Well, I never fully knew who to believe in this case. I guess I'm not shocked that THX was "stretching" the truth.
After learning more about the process, I came to the conclusion that the only DVDs that could be THX certified and that THX could really control the entire process and quality would be the Lucasfilm movies. Other than that, it seems to be a ridiculous process anyway.
After learning more about the process, I came to the conclusion that the only DVDs that could be THX certified and that THX could really control the entire process and quality would be the Lucasfilm movies. Other than that, it seems to be a ridiculous process anyway.
