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jough 12-16-03 05:48 PM

That's just near-sighted. Who would have thought he'd have made the prequels 15 years earlier?

Anyway, after Lucas is dead someone with talent could make them. They already have those radio scripts to work from.

BigPete 12-16-03 08:22 PM


Originally posted by Terrell
Use your brain.
C'mon, that's a bit unnecessary. I mean really, do you actually think George is doing all this work himself? How long, exactly, do you imagine it takes someone to rattle off a list of changes and send a group of people off to work on them? I'm sure, somewhere in the past 6 years, he must have had a few minutes to spare.

Not that I believe anything will be changed, or that I even care for that matter. But still, if he did have some small details that needed to be changed for consistency it would have been more than possible.

TELawrence 12-16-03 09:46 PM

So it looks like all the people who swore they wouldn't buy this in protest of the non-release are about to come crawling out of the woodwork, huh? Predictably spineless... I personally couldn't care if they are ever released. Sure I was a fan when I was 6 but come on these are not very good movies. I mean Empire has it's moments but how many times can you really watch these before they lose all excitement?

Anyway just out of spite I hope these discs are somehow majorly screwed up. Perhaps like Halloween 3! They could make them so that during the inital starfield text is rewritten "to better suit the directors original intention if he had the money" which of course would triggers all the lame fan boyz go bezerk and eat each others eyes out. That would be sweet...

Perhaps they could remix the 5.1 tracks to make the laser guns sound like a leather jacket getting hit with a baseball bat too... (yes i read that comment)

And add a scene that explains why the all the matrix movies sucked yet made a friggin killing at the box office... (don't start)

Hmmm how's the final Peter Jackson hobbit thing coming? Inital reviews look promising. Isn't there some blood to be sucked from that carcus? Maybe they can somehow tie starwars into the toll-keen mythology and get Wolverine transported in there too as the alter ego of smegol. That would be sweet...

(Beginning to giggle) Anyway, You just know they are going screw up this release... (ROTFLMAO)

El-Kabong 12-16-03 10:03 PM


Originally posted by TELawrence
I mean Empire has it's moments but how many times can you really watch these before they lose all excitement?
In the theater?
Star Wars: 575+ times
Empire: 150+ times
Jedi: 75+ times
TPM: 12 times
AotC: 8 times

And I'm please to report that there's no loss of excitment yet!

Frank S 12-16-03 10:44 PM


Originally posted by TELawrence
Sure I was a fan when I was 6 but come on these are not very good movies. I mean Empire has it's moments but how many times can you really watch these before they lose all excitement?

This is a prime example of a TROLL!!! Just grow up and quit the 3 year old goating of fans already. Go start your own SW troll-a-thon! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (three rolls for each year of your mental age equivilant)

TELawrence 12-16-03 11:06 PM

Are you serious? My honest opinion of the movies is a troll?

MEJHarrison 12-17-03 12:22 PM


Originally posted by TELawrence
So it looks like all the people who swore they wouldn't buy this in protest of the non-release are about to come crawling out of the woodwork, huh? Predictably spineless...
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll buy them regardless of what form they come in. I never swore anything. Nor have I ever claimed that I would buy them only if certain conditions were met.


Sure I was a fan when I was 6 but come on these are not very good movies. I mean Empire has it's moments but how many times can you really watch these before they lose all excitement?

I've only seen them once believe it or not (and I don't believe I've ever seen Jedi except for bits and pieces on TV). And my children have never seen them. Granted the youngest is only a year old, but since my oldest is 6, this should fit the bill just fine for him.


Hmmm how's the final Peter Jackson hobbit thing coming? Inital reviews look promising. Isn't there some blood to be sucked from that carcus? Maybe they can somehow tie starwars into the toll-keen mythology and get Wolverine transported in there too as the alter ego of smegol. That would be sweet...
As I suspected, you're just intentionally trying to stir the pot and see how many fanboys come to the surface. Not that I don't find that entertaining of course. Just don't try to pass yourself off as not being a troll.

porieux 12-17-03 12:33 PM

I won't buy them unless they are the original versions.

Not that Lucas cares...

Spiky 12-18-03 11:36 AM


Originally posted by TELawrence
Are you serious? My honest opinion of the movies is a troll?
Come on, TELawrence. You should know that in a SW thread you are either a troll, hopeless geek, LD owner, or Lucas basher. Pick which you want to be. :crap:

FreshOne 12-18-03 12:14 PM


Originally posted by TELawrence
Are you serious? My honest opinion of the movies is a troll?
In a thread announcing the release date of a set of films, saying those films suck, and then randomly saying that The Matrix and Lord of the Rings trilogies suck, then hoping that the dvds being announced are somehow screwed up, THAT is being a troll. Also randomly calling people spineless (anyone posting in the thread in particular, or are you just assuming some post you read 2 years ago where someone said they weren't going to buy it out of protest is the same poster here that is happy it will be released? god forbid people change their minds either) isn't too cool on top of thread crapping all over the dvd being announced. Don't act shocked when people think you are being an ass.

Class316 12-18-03 12:29 PM


Originally posted by Spiky
Come on, TELawrence. You should know that in a SW thread you are either a troll, hopeless geek, LD owner, or Lucas basher. Pick which you want to be. :crap:
what about a bootleg DVD owner?

Terrell 12-18-03 12:30 PM


Sure I was a fan when I was 6 but come on these are not very good movies.
Oh God, what a loser. These are great films in a great trilogy that have stood the test of time for a quarter century. Take your nonsense and thread farts elsewhere troll.

REL77 12-18-03 12:31 PM


Originally posted by TELawrence
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Hmmm how's the final Peter Jackson hobbit thing coming? Inital reviews look promising. Isn't there some blood to be sucked from that carcus? Maybe they can somehow tie starwars into the toll-keen mythology and get Wolverine transported in there too as the alter ego of smegol. That would be sweet...
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GROW UP!!! GET A LIFE!!!

Terrell 12-18-03 12:37 PM


GROW UP!!! GET A LIFE!!!
Couldn't agree more!!! This guys tends to stink up a lot of threads with these kinds of farts.

stinkeye 12-30-03 09:07 AM

Digital Bits has a picture of potential cover art for the trilogy here:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...omingart9.html

alex4bball 12-30-03 09:11 AM

What are the chances the Star Wars Trilogy will have both the original versions and special edition versions on the discs?

TomOpus 12-30-03 09:14 AM

So, looks like it might be a single boxset vs individual releases.

I'm not sure I like the cover... maybe it's embossed or something similar.

ckolchak 12-30-03 10:04 AM

the jacket designs of TPM and AOTC have already been established and this is meant to be consistent across the series of films.
2 discs in a 2 disc amray with gold lettering, photoshoped faces, and episode # on the spine.
there is absolutely no way this will be a 3 movie digi-pack release.
tho they propably will have both a slipcased box set and the indivual releases.

the SEs are fantastic! i don't know why anybody would not love them.
they are an attempt to make all three films hew more closely to the filmmaking asthetic established in Return Of The Jedi and furthered in the prequels.
the woefully, painfully obvious extended cgi drive-in to Mos-Eisley, complete with a knee slappingly hilarious bit of slapstick with a Ronto and a wholly unneccesary scene with Jabba relating to the audience the exact same information Greedo had ijust a scene or two before...these are the hallmarks of that filmmaking Genius who clearly found his 'voice' with Return of the Jedi.

yes, i was being sarcastic.
it's sad as i wouldn't be quite so snobbish about the SEs if he had only stuck to 'slight enhancements' of certain shots.
i can live with a more lively cgi dogfight, i can live with cgi dewbacks in the background, i can live with a new establishing shot of a sandcrawler, and i can live with open windows on Bespin.
its the material that was WISELY and TASTEFULLY excised in their original release that is what degrades the SEs, imo.

the scene between Jabba and Han serves no purpose and is poor storytelling in that it only conveys redundant information.
fanboys love it because they've seen the film a million times and its finbally something new to get excited about.
that doesn't change the fact that it takes a film that was tight and efficent originally and now makes it lumpy and fatty.
same with the cgi drive in to ME.
like edge enhancement on a dvd, it just doesn't NEED to be there, and the cgi meshes poorly with the live action.

i don't think these will be the exact same cuts of the film as seen in '97.
i'm sure there will be a few tweaks here and there.
but since this is the same person who concluded the series with that retarded turd know as ROTJ and then started to craft the prequels in it's image (until everyone started mocking him re: Lloyd , Jar-Jar, and his other lame decisions) , i've lost all hope of seeing "better' cuts of these films ever.
just crap...but it will be slightly newer crap, which means the fanboys who can't seem to honestly evaluate the merits of these films will still be happy.

JoeyOhhhh 12-30-03 11:14 AM


Originally posted by stinkeye
Digital Bits has a picture of potential cover art for the trilogy here:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...omingart9.html

That pic has been there since the rumor starting looking more and more like fact.

I wouldn't go by that picture, because they did a similar thing with Indiana Jones, just put up a generic poster shot well before the official artwork was released.

evenswr 12-30-03 11:58 AM


Originally posted by jough
That's just near-sighted. Who would have thought he'd have made the prequels 15 years earlier?

Anyway, after Lucas is dead someone with talent could make them. They already have those radio scripts to work from.

What radio scripts?

jayson1017 12-30-03 02:49 PM

That sucks.

Turd Ferguson 12-30-03 04:52 PM


Originally posted by Class316
what about a bootleg DVD owner?
I would never consider owning bootlegs of the SEs, let alone bootlegs of both the SEs and original versions. ;) No siree, not me.

Terrell 12-30-03 06:44 PM


Anyway, after Lucas is dead someone with talent could make them. They already have those radio scripts to work from.
Yeah, because God knows someone who is a self-made multi-billionaire has no talent.:rolleyes: What a completely dumbass, stupid statement.

And I hate to tell you this, but there are many ignorant people just like you who think Star Wars immediately becomes public property once Lucas dies. I hate to tell you, it doesn't. The copyrights that are owned by Lucas are good for the rest of his life, plus 70 years. So keep fantasizing.

Turd Ferguson 12-30-03 07:50 PM

One! Two! Three! Four! Let's have a fanboy war!

lpetschauer 12-30-03 10:18 PM


Originally posted by Terrell
Oh God, what a loser. These are great films in a great trilogy that have stood the test of time for a quarter century. Take your nonsense and thread farts elsewhere troll.
-ohbfrank-

jough 12-31-03 01:55 AM

There was a Star Wars radio show penned by Lucas back in the mid-80s that contained all nine episodes.

So far the first two haven't really followed the radio show at ALL, but we'll have to see if Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader have a final showdown at the mouth of an active volcano.

Gatsby 12-31-03 02:13 AM


Originally posted by Terrell
Yeah, because God knows someone who is a self-made multi-billionaire has no talent.:rolleyes: What a completely dumbass, stupid statement.

And I hate to tell you this, but there are many ignorant people just like you who think Star Wars immediately becomes public property once Lucas dies. I hate to tell you, it doesn't. The copyrights that are owned by Lucas are good for the rest of his life, plus 70 years. So keep fantasizing.

Do you have to directly attack everyone who has a negative comment regarding Star Wars and Lucas? I don't understand why people can't discuss these films without fighting with each other...


I think these films should be released like the Alien Quadrilogy set, I think a seven DVD set with the special editions and the original films on the first six DVDs and the extras on a seventh.

QuiGonJosh 12-31-03 05:53 AM

Just wait for the 12 disc set containing all 6 movies in 2007...

Qui Gon Jim 12-31-03 06:21 AM


Originally posted by Gatsby
Do you have to directly attack everyone who has a negative comment regarding Star Wars and Lucas? I don't understand why people can't discuss these films without fighting with each other...


I think these films should be released like the Alien Quadrilogy set, I think a seven DVD set with the special editions and the original films on the first six DVDs and the extras on a seventh.

Excellent idea! But not the same packaging as AQ...

jayson1017 12-31-03 11:35 AM

I agree with Gatsby's post. As long as Star Wars I and II are not included in the set...

QuiGonJosh 12-31-03 03:55 PM

Episode 1-3 are a part of the story...

Terrell 12-31-03 10:13 PM


Do you have to directly attack everyone who has a negative comment regarding Star Wars and Lucas?
Yes! The only person I've attacked here is him, and I didn't attack him personally, only his statement. The bitching and whining has grown to such pathetic and ridiculous levels, it's time to stop. This thread doesn't have a thing to do with bitching about the films. This is a thread about the DVDs. If you or anyone else are not interested in Star Wars or discussing these DVDs, don't hit the "reply" button. I can easily handle negative discussions about Lucas and whatever, in the appropriate thread. But the thread farts and bitching got old long back in 99.

Now, as per your suggestion, the DVDs are not being released in a box set at all. They are being released individually. I assume you are talking about the DVDs coming next year. They are not in a box set.

As for the eventual box set, who knows what Lucas has in mind. That would be nothing more than speculation at this point.


I agree with Gatsby's post. As long as Star Wars I and II are not included in the set.
Why would Episode I & II be included in a box set of the original trilogy? Not going to happen.

Terrell 12-31-03 10:25 PM


How long, exactly, do you imagine it takes someone to rattle off a list of changes and send a group of people off to work on them?
To answer the question posed in an earlier post, it wasn't a little list. It was a list of dozens upon dozens of changes in each film, changes that would take an inordinate amount of time to complete. We're talking months, and perhaps even a couple of years to make those kinds of drastic changes and do them well.

ILM is not only working on Episode III, but they are also working on numerous other films and their effects. ILM works on as many as a dozen films a year, and it would be them that would have to make the changes. As I said earlier, the DVDs that are released next year will be either the originals, or more likely the '97 Special Editions. There's no way they will be the new cuts with all of those changes. That list was nothing more than a fanboy wishlist. Is it possible there will be some minor tweaks and changes on the 2004 DVDs? Sure. But not the list of changes we saw. I'd say count on the '97 SEs.

eau 01-01-04 03:10 AM

:drool:

DavidH 01-01-04 11:49 AM

In all honesty, while I would much prefer the originals, if we get the 97 SE's, I would be relatively happy. There weren't that many changes. I remember seeing them in the theater when they came out in 1997 thinking, "ok, what's the big deal with SE -- I don't see that much done to them here." Yes, the Greedo shooting first and Luke yelling is dumb, but I could live with everything else if this is the best we can get. That one list with tons of changes scares me though (morphing Christian Hayden's face onto Anakin in Jedi, etc.).

GuessWho 01-01-04 12:11 PM

Just to clarify:

The radio shows were just extended versions of episodes 4-6

Gatsby 01-01-04 03:29 PM


Originally posted by Terrell
Yes! The only person I've attacked here is him, and I didn't attack him personally, only his statement. The bitching and whining has grown to such pathetic and ridiculous levels, it's time to stop. This thread doesn't have a thing to do with bitching about the films. This is a thread about the DVDs. If you or anyone else are not interested in Star Wars or discussing these DVDs, don't hit the "reply" button. I can easily handle negative discussions about Lucas and whatever, in the appropriate thread. But the thread farts and bitching got old long back in 99.

Now, as per your suggestion, the DVDs are not being released in a box set at all. They are being released individually. I assume you are talking about the DVDs coming next year. They are not in a box set.

As for the eventual box set, who knows what Lucas has in mind. That would be nothing more than speculation at this point.



Why would Episode I & II be included in a box set of the original trilogy? Not going to happen.

Why did I know you were going to answer yes to my question?

So I'm assuming it's okay with terrell if the thread runs off course, but ONLY about positive lucasfilms issues right?

I'm obviously interested in discussing these DVDs, I've clicked into this forum didn't I? I'm just of the opinion that people can have their own opinion (positive or negative). So the guy thinks Lucas has no talent, who cares?!? There are many of us that don't agree, but we're not labeling his opinions as "dumb ass". That just you, and I swear every time a Star Wars thread war starts, it's Terrell who's right at the core of it.

Regarding the DVD boxset...has there been any press release about how these films will be released? I would be surprised if these films aren't released similar to the Indiana Jones set.

Qui Gon Jim 01-02-04 06:17 AM

As of now it looks like they will be released individually. I am sure that they will also be in a box set too. The image at TDB was not the final art. and it even says so on the page. I am sure the final art will follow the design asthetics of eps 1+2, with a black background with gold lettering. They will probably use the 1997 A sheets for the art, or as someone said, photoshopped heads. The custom art that is floating around out there might be a sign of what is to come...

In Terrel's defense, there are several people who fnd any thread about SW and crap on it.

mookiemeister 01-02-04 06:40 AM

Can't wait for them to be added to my collection.

evenswr 01-02-04 08:57 AM


Originally posted by jough
There was a Star Wars radio show penned by Lucas back in the mid-80s that contained all nine episodes.

So far the first two haven't really followed the radio show at ALL, but we'll have to see if Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader have a final showdown at the mouth of an active volcano.

Don't know exactly how to put this, but you're absolutely wrong. Nothing like this ever happened. The original trilogy on radio, available on CD from Amazon.com (penned by Brian Daley, not Lucas, starring Mark Hamill in ANH & TESB and Anthony Daniels through the whole thing) had a slightly expanded storyline, but basically covered episodes 4, 5, & 6. The first two episodes of the Star Wars radio adaptation were all new stuff, but it was just the Luke/Biggs stuff on Tatooine and some stuff with Leia and how she got the stolen plans and what-not. Nothing whatsoever about episodes one, two, three, seven, eight, or nine.

It's interesting that you've even gone into detail about how different this imaginary radio series was to the new movies. I'm always suspicious of people being so adamant about something that's completely untrue. Did you actually hear this fictitious radio series, or did someone else assure you of your "facts?"

I'll give you extra points for originality, though. This is the first time I've heard this one. The one I hear all the time is that the current movies Lucas is making (I, II, & III) are all based on books that were written long ago and have been available in bookstores for many years. Can't tell you how many people have tried to assure me that this was the case.

Anyway, now you've got me thinking about that radio series again, and it reminds me how good the thing actually was. Daley really does a great job adapting the story for radio (not necessarily an easy thing to do), and does a pretty good job of answering some questions I'd always had regarding the OT, including C3P0 and R2D2 getting their memories erased, and the fact that the Empire doesn't even think to station anybody on Tatooine to capture Luke when he goes to rescue Han from Jabba the Hutt in ROTJ.


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