Despite the logo being intact on the Hulk Hogan DVD, with the release of the new steel cage DVD, we finally have the logo censoring myth put to rest. All the scratch WWF logos will now be censored (though I don’t know the point in censoring the scratch logo and keep the block one). So is this deterring you from buying the Steel Cage DVDs? I know I’ll be passing on this one! It’s one thing to see it on TV but not on a DVD that I’m supposed to pay $$$ for and keep on my shelf!!

Also, IF the Wrestlemania box set that everyone is dreaming of is ever made, what will happen to WM 14-18?? I shudder to think! And WM 14 was never even released on DVD.

also i notice they very rarely actually say "wwf" its always world wrestling federation. They said it once on the sm dvd.

wow! I wonder if they intentionally pay attention to this and only select matches where they never say ''wwf''

Wasn't the Hogan DVD already in production before the stupid logo issue was raised?

I will be picking up the DVD, but I only want it for the old matches, not the recent ones.

When it was in publication they had already changed from WWF to WWE

... I'm canceling my Pre-order!




How the hell do you consider this a censorship? The World Wild Life Foundation won the suit. simple as that. If WWE uses WWF logo they can open themselves up for a law suit. Who cares if it slipped in the hogan dvd. the planning and production of that might have been indeed handled during the pending lawsuit. I'm sure if they paid off the WWF some cash they could use it if they really need to in the past series. perhaps they did pay it off to keep it clean and not have to blur all the WWF since Hogans majority career happened when WWF was used.

Really wish some of you would choose to use the word a little less and in more positions when it is actually done. Being in the U.S. I can tell you that we know very little about what true censorship really is. Many folks in other countries would LOVE to be able to argue about being censored in only a logo for a wrestling match. In the most case, if they let it slip on mic it's a bit different then having it blurred out. You can't see it. Hearing it could be considered the announcer just commenting.

Sometimes I have to really wonder about the amount of time you guys have to think up all this "Censorship".

well, vince could of and should of fought some on it instead of just giving up. (ok jack, I'll shut up now)

How do you know he didn't?

I find this incredibly annoying but I still want the set. From what I understand it doesn't matter if it's the scratch logo or the block logo, "WWF" isn't allowed anywhere on their DVDs or mentioned in the commentary. I don't understand how anyone could be confused with the World Wildlife Fund if they buy a DVD with World Wrestling Entertainment on the cover. As long as it's not on the cover it shouldn't matter.

the block logo is on the dvds. its def on the sm dvd.

wow! I wonder if they intentionally pay attention to this and only select matches where they never say ''wwf''

actually, the man Vince him self on the dvd (the undertaker hell in the cell match on the sm dvd) says "the phenom of the wwf."

From the sound of things it seems like WWE isn't consistant on their DVDs. They're probably as confused as we are.

You must not have been following the behind the scenes. this went on for a great long while. This was way after many appeals. it was a very tough court case and Wrestling lost. it was a tough loss but they did take it as far as they could. This has been going on since around 94 when the Wrestling orginization made a sort of agreement to only use WWF to sell items in the U.S. Now this has been back and forth since then so I think it's safe to say good ol' vince fought it tooth and nail.

Censorship? Not really, it's more of a bad business choice since it was the Wrestling orginization to go beyond the 94 settlement and try to prove that the two wouldn't get mistaken and take it up again.

Apparently, now anything that anyone happens to not like is censorship.

Damn hot dog cart guy! Censoring the good taste from my hot dog!

Damn Marlins! Censoring the Yankees from winning the world series!

Damn printer! Censoring my essay by running out of paper!

Damn watch! Censoring me from knowing what time it is by having a dead battery!

Etc.

DJ

Damn those pandas! Damn them all to hell!

I just hope the Extraordinary Champions of Wildlife aren't successful in their lawsuit againt WWE. I'd hate to see them blur the ECW logos on future releases.

You're going to avoid buying the set because of a tiny blurred out logo? That has no effect what so ever on the actual WRESTLING? That is done because of legal action? Give me a break.

WWE would have no problem putting out a DVD boxset of just Wrestlemania 1 - 14. Wrestlemania 14 was right before the "Attitude" era where they introduced the scratched logo. And for some reason they're allowed to use the classic logo, which is beyond me.

I own all available Wrestlemanias on DVD, which is good since I don't have to worry about any blurred while I'm watching my Wrestlemania marathon every year in March!

But thank God I'm going to Wrestlemania this year! MSG baby!

But if the blurred logo is stopping your purchase of buying this great 2 disc set, you're pretty crazy. Its an awesome set and you don't notice the blurred logo much. Its only a couple of matches really.

Lucky you. That's a dream of mine to make it to an MSG WWE show and also a Wrestlemania some day. I know you'll have a blast. NYC, Philly, Canada and the UK have the greatest wrestling fans.

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... I'm canceling my Pre-order!




How the hell do you consider this a censorship? The World Wild Life Foundation won the suit. simple as that. If WWE uses WWF logo they can open themselves up for a law suit. Who cares if it slipped in the hogan dvd. the planning and production of that might have been indeed handled during the pending lawsuit. I'm sure if they paid off the WWF some cash they could use it if they really need to in the past series. perhaps they did pay it off to keep it clean and not have to blur all the WWF since Hogans majority career happened when WWF was used.

Really wish some of you would choose to use the word a little less and in more positions when it is actually done. Being in the U.S. I can tell you that we know very little about what true censorship really is. Many folks in other countries would LOVE to be able to argue about being censored in only a logo for a wrestling match. In the most case, if they let it slip on mic it's a bit different then having it blurred out. You can't see it. Hearing it could be considered the announcer just commenting.

Sometimes I have to really wonder about the amount of time you guys have to think up all this "Censorship".

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Apparently, now anything that anyone happens to not like is censorship.

Damn hot dog cart guy! Censoring the good taste from my hot dog!

Damn Marlins! Censoring the Yankees from winning the world series!

Damn printer! Censoring my essay by running out of paper!

Damn watch! Censoring me from knowing what time it is by having a dead battery!

Etc...

As far as censorship goes, this is about as clear as it gets. These DVDs are censored.

As for whether it's something to get upset about, that's a whole other question.

Unfortunately, a particularly vocal segment of the membership is either unwilling or unable to divorce these two concepts in their heads.

You know when I watch MTV and they blur out all those t-shirt logos and hat logos I have to wonder.. when will the censorship end?

this is for legal reasons. it was a choice for the Wrestling orginization to challange it after a settlement was resolved close to 10 years ago. they lost and the use of the logo was pending for some time now. it's a bit confussing, but in terms, the logo is done with. deal with it.

Thanks, I'm dealing with it just fine. This isn't complaining on my part. I could not care less what happens with the old WWF logo. I haven't seen a wrestling match since the days of Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka.

But none of that changes the fact that the WWE had to alter its product from its original, legal, previously marketed form before being able to sell it now.

As I've said before, you can argue degree and whether an act of censorship warrants a protest of some kind until the cows come home, but whether or not something has been censored is a yes or no question, and the answer for this particular DVD is yes. That it doesn't enrage you does not exclude the possibility of censorship.

The change to the whole "Attitude" logo is what really kicked this in. For the matter that this person is NOT buying because of a blur is silly.. well beyond silly. I have the old stuff on tape.. well when I actually liked the story lines going on. As you can tell from my sig, I'm a Foley fan so you know my interest died after some time. but really, censorship is a bit rough to call on this. Censored is a strong word and it just gets tiring when people throw it around like nothing. The "deal with it" was more towards 316 as he enjoys to use the word Censorship most often. Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

Might aswell start saying Lucas RAPED my childhood..

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But none of that changes the fact that the WWE had to alter its product from its original, legal, previously marketed form before being able to sell it now.

If it was "legal", then they wouldn't have lost the court case..

I agree wholeheartedly.
I disagree wholeheartedly. "Censored" isn't inherently strong or weak, it's just a word with a meaning that happens to apply in this case, so to "throw it around" in this instance is entirely appropriate.

What gets tiring is this same argument over and over.