Count me in. Once a SE of Generations comes out my Star Trek collection will be complete. I never cared for the other flicks after it.

Maybe Nick Meyer will touch upon it in his commentary track, but Saavik was supposed to be the traitor in Star Trek VI, but they couldn't get Kirstie Alley back (and Nick didn't want to use Robin Curtis). So they changed the name of the character...but you'll notice she's very much like Saavik.

I love my cheese in Trek as much as anyone, I just thought it was a bit too much. They had already established the conspiracy without putting the guy from Benson in a Klingon mask. Ah well, I still think it's a fine sendoff for the original crew....

I had heard that Roddenberry didn't want a beloved character used like that, and even though he had no real power, they changed it out of respect (or maybe just plain agreed with him).

Yes, I agree it would have been a hell of a shock to have used Saavik, but the instant I saw Valeris on screen in the theater, I thought . It would have been nice to have a little more mystery to it.

No, you are not imagining this. It aired on MTV, I think. But in any case, it's almost like a "lost" episode of Star Trek the Next Generation, but was designed to promote Trek VI. I agree, this would be a great extra for the Trek VI DVD.

Peace and Love,

Hermey the Elf

I love the music, too, and an isolated soundtrack would be great. But it's highly unlikely that Paramount $tudio$ would 'give away' an isolated soundtrack on a Trek DVD, when they could possibly sell an expanded soundtrack CD.

Peace and Love,

Hermey the Elf

WTF is up with the yellow letting on both this and V? It totally screws up the scheme of the sets. I also have a feeling that they may ditch the silver scheme if they go to the TNG series. Don't ask me why, it's just a feeling.

I don't know why they made the first movie (The Motion Picture) all yellowish-orange --- it doesn't blend at all with the silver.

I liked that it was a different character. Made the scene where Kirk orders her to use 1/4 impulse power (and Spock's reaction to her questioning the order) all the more enjoyable (granted an homage to Saavik in Khan).

This is also my favorite Trek. I'd like to see the original theatrical version as opposed to the Home Video vesion currently available. The added scenes- Valeris sliding down the pole and the spock-Scotty discussion about Klingon Tearglands, the whole extraction plot with " We can clean their Chronometers" I thought weakened the story. WHo knows what we'll get though.

If you line up all of the Star Trek discs together, the gold TMP spine more or less matches the TOS single-disc releases... and then the silver rest-of-the-movies match the TNG season sets. So... you end up with a big orange blob followed by a big silver blob.

It's especially fitting if you realize that TMP takes place about 2.5 years after the five year mission ended, and then TWOK was a good 12-15 years later. Even stylisticly, TMP feels more like the "final episode" of TOS that they didn't get to do. Then you have the movies which are a lot closer to each other timewise and style-wise.

Hmm, maybe we don't give Paramount enough credit here...

Milo, you're shooting rather high with your figures. Now admittedly, I'm taking my information from the STAR TREK novels, which are not considered official canon, but since the films themselves are gray on the issue of time passage, they're the closest source to canon with which to consult. ST:TMP takes place 2.5 years after the end of the five-year mission. Following the V'Ger mission, the crew begin another five-year mission, which is cut short in the novel DEEP DOMAIN (by how much is uncertain, but I'm inclined to think no more than a year, probably more like six months). Kirk is re-promoted to the Admiralty and two more years pass until TWOK (in other words, 6 to 7 years lie between the two films). There is some discrepancy on how much time passes between TFF and TUC--according to the novelization of TUC, it is 11 years; according to A.C. Crispin's novel SAREK, it is 3 years, but I'm strongly inclined to go with the 11 years theory since, in TUC, McCoy says he's served on the Enterprise for 27 years (5 year mission + 2.5 year down time + 4.5 year mission + 2 year down time + 11.5 years spanning TWOK to TUC = 25...pretty close to 27)...

I enjoy a lot of the novels but their sense of timeline is way off. As commercial as it is, I prefer the Okuda Chronology.

2266-2269, the original series.
2271 TMP
2285 TWOK and TSFS
2286 TVH
2287 TFF
2293 TUC

That's 27 years. The fifteen years between TMP and TWOK also helps fit with the aging of the actors better since it was ten years between Turnabout intruder and TMP in reality.

There's a lot I don't care for in the Okuda Chronology, but I've gone by this timeline for many years.

This happens to be my favorite Star Trek movie, so this will be mine. Nice cover art. OT: I saw Christopher Plummer is The Sound of Music and the man has aged very well! Great ham job in this movie - to match that of Shatner's. A must for Star Trek.

milo, fair enough, and I'd forgotten all about the Chronology, which admittedly would be closer to official canon than the novels, but I must take serious umbrage at the Okuda's assertion that TWOK through TFF spans at least two years. TSFS obviously takes place no more than a couple of weeks at most after TWOK; TVH takes place four months after TSFS, as indicated by dialogue in the film; and it appears again obvious that TFF takes place very likely not more than a couple of months (and I'd hazard even less) after TVH. If I were to push the math, we'd have no more than 6-7 months passing from TWOK to TFF--nowhere near two years. Sorry to digress, but I had to point out that weak spot in the Chronology. Personally, I still feel more comfortable with my math (it is easier to segment into five-year missions--one after TMP, two after TFF, with a one year break between these latter two to account for the alteration in bridge design from TFF to TUC, and to account for the Antonia storyline in GENERATIONS) than the Chronology's, and your claim that the Chronology's math makes more since since it smoothes the aging gap between "Turnabout Intruder" and TMP doesn't hold too much water, since the big passage of time the Chronology posits isn't between those two adventures, but between TMP and TWOK; ergo, we still don't have a logical explanation for why the actors aged 10 years between the show and the first film, but the characters only aged 2.5 years during the same period. Potato...puh-tah-to...