Indiana Jones transfer too dark?
10-21-03 | 12:15 PM
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Indiana Jones transfer too dark?
I've watched the first 30 minutes of Raiders and I noticed the picture seems very dark. I checked my TV's contrast and it was actually turned up higher than usual. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just crazy? I don't recall any of the reviews mentioning it.
I know the beginning of Raiders is pretty low lit, but I don't recall it being this dark. Maybe I'm just used to watching my old washed out VHS copy.
I know the beginning of Raiders is pretty low lit, but I don't recall it being this dark. Maybe I'm just used to watching my old washed out VHS copy.
10-21-03 | 06:31 PM
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ya wanna talk about a transfer being dark, just check out "The Godfather" DVD Collection. So many scenes were filmed in dark boardrooms, offices, and men wearing black suit coats. I think I had the brightness turned all the way up during most of these films.
But as far as "Raiders" goes, I did also think it looked a bit dark. I saw it not too long ago on some cable channel (AMC???) and it definitely looked much lighter than this. Then again, I only have a 27" Sony Trinitron. But I did have to turn the brightness up a little bit.
I find this to be the case on a lot of DVDs. But it doesn't bother me. I just turn the brightness up when I watch the disc, then turn it back down again for regular TV. No fuss, no muss.
But as far as "Raiders" goes, I did also think it looked a bit dark. I saw it not too long ago on some cable channel (AMC???) and it definitely looked much lighter than this. Then again, I only have a 27" Sony Trinitron. But I did have to turn the brightness up a little bit.
I find this to be the case on a lot of DVDs. But it doesn't bother me. I just turn the brightness up when I watch the disc, then turn it back down again for regular TV. No fuss, no muss.
10-21-03 | 07:20 PM
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i'm with you caiman.. i thought Raiders was very dark too.. first time i've ever changed my tv's settings. it seems to be intended to be that dark though, i suppose since the whole film isn't as dark as the opening.
10-21-03 | 07:26 PM
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Looked great on my TV, didn't even cross my mind that I might want to change any of the settings. Can't remember what I was watching, something a couple of weeks ago made me pick a brighter setting, but Raiders didn't bother me at all!
10-22-03 | 02:50 AM
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It looks great to me on my 65" Mits.
It IS dark in the jungle and inside the temple. The light hitting the idol was pretty bright though. I think we're just seeing it the way it was supposed to be seen.
It IS dark in the jungle and inside the temple. The light hitting the idol was pretty bright though. I think we're just seeing it the way it was supposed to be seen.
10-22-03 | 08:15 AM
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I think the brightness or darkness level is perfect.
Caiman, I suggest buying a copy of Avia to adjust your TV's black level. If you are seeing the picture as too dark, it is unlikely to be a contrast issue; it is more likely a brighness issue (as brightness affects black level) although the two do interact so to speak. At minimum, use the THX optimizer on the Indy disc.
My only nitpick is the picture is just a bit on the soft side - particularly in the first 45 minutes or so of the movie. I have a 61" (ISF'd) Sony and this softness may not be noticable with smaller screens.
Overall, for a movie of this age, it looks quite good.
Caiman, I suggest buying a copy of Avia to adjust your TV's black level. If you are seeing the picture as too dark, it is unlikely to be a contrast issue; it is more likely a brighness issue (as brightness affects black level) although the two do interact so to speak. At minimum, use the THX optimizer on the Indy disc.
My only nitpick is the picture is just a bit on the soft side - particularly in the first 45 minutes or so of the movie. I have a 61" (ISF'd) Sony and this softness may not be noticable with smaller screens.
Overall, for a movie of this age, it looks quite good.
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10-22-03 | 09:53 PM
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Since this thread is talking about things being dark, I figured that it was the place in which this comment would be the least off-topic.
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10-22-03 | 11:24 PM
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From: You have moved into a dark place. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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10-22-03 | 11:49 PM
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Yes, always 1 move away from being "hungrily devoured." Those old text adventures occupied too much of my adolescence.
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10-23-03 | 06:52 AM
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Raiders looked fine to me. But watching Temple of Doom last night, I did feel it didn't look as good. The color seemed a little faded and definitely looked darker to me.
11-29-03 | 02:02 AM
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Maybe what you guys mean about TEMPLE OF DOOM being too dark is that the movie has too much black in it.
It's like when you take a photo in PHOTOSHOP and add more black to the picture.
That's what they seem to have done to the transfer.
Having seen the movie at the theater in 1984 it sure didn't look like this or on laserdisc or commercial t.v.
It's like when you take a photo in PHOTOSHOP and add more black to the picture.
That's what they seem to have done to the transfer.
Having seen the movie at the theater in 1984 it sure didn't look like this or on laserdisc or commercial t.v.
