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Old 10-19-03, 02:58 PM
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Matrix:Reloaded "enhanced for widescreen"?

Doesn't that term usually mean that when viewing the DVD on a 16:9 screen you should have no bars above and below the picture? Because i get those bars when viewing them on my Samsung HDTV.

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The aspect ratio of "Reloaded" is 2.35:1. Your TV's aspect ratio (16x9) is about 1.78:1, so any movies in 2.35:1 will have the black bars. Movies that have a 1.85:1 ratio will fit just about right, when you factor in your TV's overscanning.
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Re: Matrix:Reloaded "enhanced for widescreen"?

Originally posted by mee2
Doesn't that term usually mean that when viewing the DVD on a 16:9 screen you should have no bars above and below the picture?
...erm... no it doesn't...

...sigh... will people ever learn...?...

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doesn't "enhanced for widescreen" = "anamorphic" ?
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Originally posted by sn9ke_eyes
doesn't "enhanced for widescreen" = "anamorphic" ?
Indeed it does.

I think the original poster had thought the film was "Recruit"-ified, so it would fill a 1.78:1 scren.
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Originally posted by Hendrik

...erm... no it doesn't...

...sigh... will people ever learn...?...

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Well since i obviously have no knowledge on the subject, why not enlighen me instead of being a smart ***?
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Originally posted by mee2
Well since i obviously have no knowledge on the subject, why not enlighen me instead of being a smart ***?

I'm sorry, but as a senior member who has been registered here more than 2 years, that is something you should have known. That question has been brought up in various ways at least 1000 times. In fact, it's been asked enough that it's in the newcomer's help thread at the top of this forum.
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Although i've been a member for 2+ years, my participation here is not strictly dedicated to DVD discussions. The poster above could've simply posted the information you just did and called it a day.
All i wanted to know is why an anamprphic DVD is not filling up the screen of my 16:9 television.
Thanks.

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Actually, it IS filling up your TV-it's just that since the AR is 2.35:1, part of the image is black space on the top and bottom of the movie.
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Thanks Drexl. So the "enhanced for widescreen" print o the back of the case is misleading? Every time my g/f watches a movie with black bars present i cringe at the thought of burn-in....
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I've had my 55in WS MITS HDTV for about 3 years now. I've watched hundreds (maybe thousands) of widescreen movies, television shows and even played video games with the black bars. I do not have any burn-ins.
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If your set is calibrated then you shouldn't really worry about burn in that much (ie, your contrast is turned down from the factory default of maximum)
And no the "enhanced for widescreen" is not misleading.. 'Anamorphic Transfer' and 'Aspect Ratio' are 2 seperate things. I'm not trying to put you down, but I too have a hard time believing anyone has been around a HT site for 2 years and never picked up at least a basic knowledge of these terms. Do a search and educate yourself, everything will be made clear.

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Originally posted by mee2
So the "enhanced for widescreen" print o the back of the case is misleading?
Not really, no. It's "enhanced for widescreen TVs" in that the vertical resolution of the picture is noticeably higher than it would be if it wasn't enhanced for widescreen TVs. How much of the screen it fills is unrelated.
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Mind you, if it was widescreen but not "enhanced for widescreen" AKA "Anamorphic" then you would have the "black bars" on all 4 sides: Top Bottom Left AND Right.

Enhanced for Widescreen puts the shape of the movie (2.35 = a thin rectangle) onto your TV (1.78 = not AS thin of a rectangle) So for the shape of the movie to stay the same, your TV has to fill up the space with something, and that something is black bars. Enjoy.
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Oh well, it looks like it's not "true" anamorphic, or at least the picture isn't stretched to the point of filling up the screen. I just watchd my Aliens DVD, and no black bars in sight.
Why advertize a DVD as being "enhanced for widescreen televisions" when we're(16:9 owners) basically getting the same tratment as those with 4:3 televisions?
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Aliens is 1.85:1, so yes, it fills your widescreen set.

See this thread for more info.
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Aliens have different aspect ratio than The Matrix Reloaded. You don't get to see black bars in Aliens becaues its Original Aspect Ratio (OAR) is 1.85:1, while The Matrix Reloaded has the OAR of 2.35:1.
And mind you, The Matrix Reloaded DVD are "enchanced for widescreen televisions", otherwise you'll have bars on all four sides just like exparr0t mentioned in the post above. While you still get to see those black bars, they occupy smaller areas on your 16:9 screen compared to 4:3 TVs, and you also get a better resolution with a widescreen TV when you're watching an anamorphic disc.
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Originally posted by mee2
Oh well, it looks like it's not "true" anamorphic, or at least the picture isn't stretched to the point of filling up the screen.
You are missing the point here.

Anamorphic has nothing to do with how much a film fills the screen. Anamorphic is a process in the DVD authoring phase and pertains to resolution.

An HDTV as stated above has a ratio of 1.78:1. A film that has an aspect ratio of 1.85:1 will appear to fill the screen on an HDTV because the two aspect ratios are very close (1.85:1 and 1.78:1). In all actuallity though a 1.85:1 film only appears to fill the screed because of something called overscan on rear projection TVs. If you zoomed in on a 1.85:1 DVD to compensate for the overscan you would actually see the black bars that are present.

So any film that has an aspect ratio of anything higher that 1.85:1 like 2.25:1 (Lord of the Rings) will always have the black bars. That is unless you zoom in with your TV or DVD player to fill the screen.

Originally posted by mee2 I just watchd my Aliens DVD, and no black bars in sight.[/B]
That is because Aliens is shot in 1.85:1.

Originally posted by mee2 Why advertize a DVD as being "enhanced for widescreen televisions" when we're(16:9 owners) basically getting the same tratment as those with 4:3 televisions? [/B]
Because it is enhanced for widescreen televisions. That just means that it is anamorphic.

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Drexl, eedoon...looks like we were all typing at the same time...excuse my repition.
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Thanks guys. After reading up on aspect ratios, and finally making it a point to remember the dimension codes and memorizing them, i'm aware of what to look for in a DVD. I don't mind the black bars actually, all my DVDs have beem widescreen ever since i got my player in '97 with my 4:3 television. I'm just anal about keeping my equipment in good shape, and am fearful of burn in.
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Originally posted by palebluedot
Drexl, eedoon...looks like we were all typing at the same time...excuse my repition.
Hey no problem dude! The more the merrier!
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If you want THE MATRIX RELOADED to fill up your entire screen, just go to the 'expand' mode on your WS TV. You won't have any black bars and everyone will magically lose 50 pounds. It's cool!
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1.85:1 shouldn't fill your screen either. It only does because they've decided to chop off a few pixels for the last 50 years. So the 1.85:1 looks like it fills your 1.78:1 screen since you would've lost those pixels, anyway.
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Originally posted by mee2
Thanks guys. After reading up on aspect ratios, and finally making it a point to remember the dimension codes and memorizing them, i'm aware of what to look for in a DVD. I don't mind the black bars actually, all my DVDs have beem widescreen ever since i got my player in '97 with my 4:3 television. I'm just anal about keeping my equipment in good shape, and am fearful of burn in.
Are you saying you won't buy any movies in 2.35:1 because of you're TV? Shame, most movies are in that format. These are from TDB-This is a 2.35:1 representation. 1.85:1 fits a 16:9 almost perfectly Check out the link below.
2.35:1 Regular TV

16:9 TV

1.85:1 Regular TV

16:9 TV

They have a great article on aspect ratios and anamorphic formats. Click Here

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