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Old 10-14-03 | 07:59 PM
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Why is the package such a deal breaker for everyone? You dont like the big Cylon head - fine, take the discs out of the Cylon head and store the inside package on the shelf. Sell the head on E-bay for 20 bucks and TA-DA! no more Cylon head AND the series just dropped to 60 bucks.

I cant imagine that I'm the only one out here who has thought of that. . . .
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As a fan of the origial run on TV myself, who was also glued to the TV week after week after week, and who has watched it recently on Sci Fi, I realize the show has it's faults and is not perfect and there are certainly elements that haven't held up well over the years, but to me it's no different to another show that has faults, and has more than enough elements that have not held up over the years, and that's Star Trek the Original Series. The difference between Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica, IMO, however are that Star Trek got some respectable movies made and some respectable spin off series, and all Battlestar Galactica has gotten are failed comic book series and some novels, and now a mini series that, from the sound of it, will not do for BG what Star Trek the Motion Picture did for Star Trek.

And while on the subject of old sci fi, what sci fi has held up over the years very well? Not very much at all.
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Loved it as a kid, but doubt I will now so I am passing.
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Where's the insert?
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And while on the subject of old sci fi, what sci fi has held up over the years very well? Not very much at all.
The original Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5..........................
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Old 10-15-03 | 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by FranksAndBeans
The original Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5..........................
To be fair, though, STNG and B5 haven't been off the air nearly as long as Galactica. Wait about 15 years and see if you still feel they've held up.

BTW, I'm not knocking those shows, just that they're a bit too recent to pull out the "stands the test of time" argument. It wasn't 'til the late '80s that I started to feel that Original Trek was past its sell-by date.
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Old 10-15-03 | 12:43 PM
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You guys are tearing each other apart over BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, of all things?
I remember reading or hearing somewhere some kid committed suicide when he heard news of the show's cancellation.

This show has not aged all that gracefully, but I still find myself watching it whenever I catch it on Sci-Fi. I won't be buying it, but I can see how people are getting excited over this. The show had some pretty sweet looking women though, specifically Laurette Spang and Maren Jensen.

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Old 10-15-03 | 01:02 PM
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I watched it during it's initial run on ABC and remember liking it a lot, but looking at it now on SCI-FI I agree it hasn't aged well. The repetitive sfx --- and what's up with the names? Most of the characters had cool names like Apollo, Starbuck, Athena, Casseopia etc. and the one black guy (o.k. there were two) is named Boomer. Why did they use a stupid ass name like that when everyone else had ancient greek type name. Anyways, loved the show as a kid; don't care for it now.
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I remember reading or hearing somewhere some kid committed suicide when he heard news of the show's cancellation.
Yes, it's true. (The actual article used to be posted on some of the Galactica sites like Kobol.com and BattlestarPegasus.com, but those sites are now gone...)


On, August 22, 1979 Eddie Seidel Jr. (15 years old) commited suicide by throwing himself off a bridge in St. Paul, Minnesota. He told police before he jumped that he was upset over the cancellation of Battlestar Galactica.


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ST.PAUL, Minn. Aug. 25, 1979 (AP) -- The parents of a 15-year-old boy who jumped 200 feet to his death from a bridge after Battlestar Galactica was canceled say the boy's whole life was wrapped up in the television space show.

"I hope we never ever see it on TV again, because it would just crush us," Dawn Seidel, the boy's stepmother, said Saturday.

Eddie Seidel Jr. was buried Friday. He committed suicide in the pre-dawn darkness Wednesday after telling police from his perch on the High Bridge railing that he was upset that Battlestar Galactica had been dropped by the ABC network.

"I talked about suing ABC or doing something," Mrs. Seidel said. "But my husband said to just leave things like they are and not make a big hassle out of it.

"I know it's not their fault because they had the program."

Like many a teen-age boy, Eddie was deeply absorbed with outer space subjects.

For Eddie, said Mrs. Seidel, it meant a roomful of posters, magazines, plastic models and other paraphernalia about Battlestar Galactica.

"They made a lot of money off him," she said. "He bought everything put on the market. He also took tape recordings of all the shows."

Eddie's world was wrapped up in the programs he viewed in his own bedroom, on a TV set he bought.

His father, Edward Seidel Sr., described Eddie as a sometimes brilliant boy who couldn't find enough in life to keep him interested.

The father said he learned about four years ago the boy had been sniffing gas with friends so he sent him to a psychiatrist.

"The psychiatrist said he was just kind of bored with life, that there was nothing here for him to excel in," said Seidel. "There was no real challenge here on this earth.

His stepmother said he got Bs and B-pluses in school, and an occasional A, but that he was mostly bored with classes. Seidel said his son came home from his job as a supermarket stockboy about 5 p.m. Tuesday, apparently in good spirits.

The boy went to his room to watch television. The family did not see him the rest of the night. When his 19-year-old sister, Crystal, passed Eddie's door later that night, she found a note -- his last will and testament. He had gone off on his motorbike.

He told his parents in the note they'd find his body under the High Bridge, a half-mile, two-lane link between downtown St. Paul and the suburb of West St. Paul. The Seidels reached it about 10 minutes after Eddie had jumped and landed on ground beside the river.

Seidel said when Eddie learned last spring that Battlestar Galactica was being canceled, he contacted the ABC network to ask officials to keep it on. The last rerun of the program was shown Aug. 5.

"I really should have tried to get him into a gifted children type situation," Seidel said. "But it's too late to look back and say I should have."

He said he didn't realize what an influence a TV program could have on his son.

"I was never sure it did influence kids that bad, but now I'm convinced it does," he said.

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Originally posted by bboisvert
Seidel said when Eddie learned last spring that Battlestar Galactica was being canceled, he contacted the ABC network to ask officials to keep it on. The last rerun of the program was shown Aug. 5.

"I really should have tried to get him into a gifted children type situation," Seidel said. "But it's too late to look back and say I should have."

He said he didn't realize what an influence a TV program could have on his son.

"I was never sure it did influence kids that bad, but now I'm convinced it does," he said.[/i] [/B]

Actually it was probably the "Super Scouts" episode of Galactica 1980 that did him in.
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Old 10-15-03 | 03:33 PM
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and what's up with the names? Most of the characters had cool names like Apollo, Starbuck, Athena, Casseopia etc. and the one black guy (o.k. there were two) is named Boomer. Why did they use a stupid ass name like that when everyone else had ancient greek type name
And what about "Boxy" (sp?). What the hell kind of name is that for a kid???

Loved the show as a kid, but I'm going to have to take a pass on this. I'll just pick up the movie DVD instead.
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Old 10-15-03 | 03:52 PM
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Actually it was probably the "Super Scouts" episode of Galactica 1980 that did him in.
I feel bad for laughing at this, but it's just too funny!!!
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Originally posted by FranksAndBeans
The original Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Star Trek:The Next Generation, Babylon 5..........................
Those are personal opinions, of course, and B5 isn't that old yet. Twilight Zone and Outer Limits (the original) and TNG have NOT held up well over time. That's not a slam against them, as I own season sets of TNG and there are Twilight Zone DVDs I would like to own as well, but face it: they are ALL outdated. TNG is even showing signs of age, especially season one. A father pointed out earlier that because his kids don't sit still for one episode of Battlestar Galactica for even a half an hour of it that this is an example of how that show hasn't held up because kids today aren't interested in it. Not too many kiddies are turning on old episodes of Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. There may be those who do, but generally, no, they don't. Those shows are dated.
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Originally posted by bboisvert
Yes, it's true. (The actual article used to be posted on some of the Galactica sites like Kobol.com and BattlestarPegasus.com, but those sites are now gone...)


On, August 22, 1979 Eddie Seidel Jr. (15 years old) commited suicide by throwing himself off a bridge in St. Paul, Minnesota. He told police before he jumped that he was upset over the cancellation of Battlestar Galactica.


EDIT: Found the article cached on Google:

ST.PAUL, Minn. Aug. 25, 1979 (AP) -- The parents of a 15-year-old boy who jumped 200 feet to his death from a bridge after Battlestar Galactica was canceled say the boy's whole life was wrapped up in the television space show.

"I hope we never ever see it on TV again, because it would just crush us," Dawn Seidel, the boy's stepmother, said Saturday.

Eddie Seidel Jr. was buried Friday. He committed suicide in the pre-dawn darkness Wednesday after telling police from his perch on the High Bridge railing that he was upset that Battlestar Galactica had been dropped by the ABC network.

"I talked about suing ABC or doing something," Mrs. Seidel said. "But my husband said to just leave things like they are and not make a big hassle out of it.

"I know it's not their fault because they had the program."

Like many a teen-age boy, Eddie was deeply absorbed with outer space subjects.

For Eddie, said Mrs. Seidel, it meant a roomful of posters, magazines, plastic models and other paraphernalia about Battlestar Galactica.

"They made a lot of money off him," she said. "He bought everything put on the market. He also took tape recordings of all the shows."

Eddie's world was wrapped up in the programs he viewed in his own bedroom, on a TV set he bought.

His father, Edward Seidel Sr., described Eddie as a sometimes brilliant boy who couldn't find enough in life to keep him interested.

The father said he learned about four years ago the boy had been sniffing gas with friends so he sent him to a psychiatrist.

"The psychiatrist said he was just kind of bored with life, that there was nothing here for him to excel in," said Seidel. "There was no real challenge here on this earth.

His stepmother said he got Bs and B-pluses in school, and an occasional A, but that he was mostly bored with classes. Seidel said his son came home from his job as a supermarket stockboy about 5 p.m. Tuesday, apparently in good spirits.

The boy went to his room to watch television. The family did not see him the rest of the night. When his 19-year-old sister, Crystal, passed Eddie's door later that night, she found a note -- his last will and testament. He had gone off on his motorbike.

He told his parents in the note they'd find his body under the High Bridge, a half-mile, two-lane link between downtown St. Paul and the suburb of West St. Paul. The Seidels reached it about 10 minutes after Eddie had jumped and landed on ground beside the river.

Seidel said when Eddie learned last spring that Battlestar Galactica was being canceled, he contacted the ABC network to ask officials to keep it on. The last rerun of the program was shown Aug. 5.

"I really should have tried to get him into a gifted children type situation," Seidel said. "But it's too late to look back and say I should have."

He said he didn't realize what an influence a TV program could have on his son.

"I was never sure it did influence kids that bad, but now I'm convinced it does," he said.
If he had only lived to see the show come to DVD...

Wonder how his dad feels about the SciFi Network showing the old episodes and the new DVD release?
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If he had only lived to see the show come to DVD...

Wonder how his dad feels about the SciFi Network showing the old episodes and the new DVD release?
Probably thinks it's a load of Felgercarb.
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Originally posted by calhoun07
Those are personal opinions, of course, and B5 isn't that old yet. Twilight Zone and Outer Limits (the original) and TNG have NOT held up well over time. That's not a slam against them, as I own season sets of TNG and there are Twilight Zone DVDs I would like to own as well, but face it: they are ALL outdated. TNG is even showing signs of age, especially season one. A father pointed out earlier that because his kids don't sit still for one episode of Battlestar Galactica for even a half an hour of it that this is an example of how that show hasn't held up because kids today aren't interested in it. Not too many kiddies are turning on old episodes of Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. There may be those who do, but generally, no, they don't. Those shows are dated.
Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion, man.................
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The father said he learned about four years ago the boy had been sniffing gas with friends so he sent him to a psychiatrist.

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Hey everybody, isn't it good that El-Kabong thought of that? It's a REAL good thing.........

Reminds me of a great Twilight-Zone episode... that intentional?
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Just too darned expensive. I have the pilot episode on DVD alone, and that's enough for my Galactica fix I think. I have to side a little bit with the "it hasn't held up well" crowds, too -- I remember watching several beloved to me episodes on VHS a few years back and some of them that I thought were totally cool when I was 8 bored the heck out of me today. Still would love to see that "Galactica 80" episode the return of Starbuck on DVD, tho...
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I'd kind of like it, although I think it was always cheesy (even when it first aired) I enjoyed it, but it doesn't fit into my budget right now, so I guess it goes on the Christmas list.
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I always thought "felgercarb" was just too phoney... all your best cuss words are one syllable words!
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definately picking up this one. i watched it as a child and loved it. i have watched it every time sci-fi does a marathon, and i still love it. its a great series. the stories hold up, while the visual effects are a little dated. the cylons are still the baddest things out there for sci-fi evil

only one question is the 2 hour motion picture/ premier included?? i only ask because i see its being re-released on tues also anyone know ???
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