More Original Star Wars rumors
 

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html

Rumored for a 4th qt. 2004 release.

Yes, I know everyone will believe it when they see it.

That rumor isn't very original.

So, that mean that Lucas is going to released them all together liked the Indiana Jones Trilogy. It would be nice if he included the original theatical version beside the special edition but I would'nt put to much faith for that to happen.

:rolleyes:

and another thing...

I don't know WHO is spreading these bullshit rumors that there isn't enough behind the scenes footage on the original trilogy (or Indiana Jones for that matter) to fill up 2 discs. That's completely not true. Anyone who has seen the original making of documentaries PLUS the footage that has been included on numerous other shows and the AOTC DVD's themselves is proof enough. Plus I remember reading about them transferring all the BTS footage to digital video recently.

Total bull!! I got loads of stuff on CD-Rs that I downloaded from the Internet.

If true, thank God for the LD to DVD transfers. I just wish my copy of ESB had better synching towards the end. But at the very least Han will *always* shoot first.

Exactly. I must have over 20 hours of 'behind the scenes' stuff on the original trilogy, just in my personal collection. Obviously a lot of this is redundant and would need to be culled into something better, but there is plenty out there. Deleted scenes, making-of docus, etc. And I'm sure there is plenty that we haven't even seen yet.

[For example, there was an article in Star Wars Insider a few years ago that contained a 'review' of an early workprint of Episode IV. There were lots of alternate takes and neat little scene extensions... that would be *fantastic* to include.]

If the Alien series can get a 9-disc set, there's certainly plenty out there on Star Wars to fill out a box nicely.

like everyone has been saying...these are two of the greatest series movies of all time. both need to be treated with a full release of both OT version and SE and all the extras that can put into it.

i think peter jackson has done it right and is one of the few to do it right. it is the standard that all great movies should try to follow if you ask me (i know...you didnt!)

What really bothered me was the fact that the guy from Lucasfilm told the Digital Bits guy that there are no versions of the original movies that still exist (only the special editions exist)...if you believe THAT, I've got some beachfront property in Kansas that I'd like to sell...

Didn't the Lucas OT Elimination squad come down from their black choppers and burn your copies of the OT? They did mine! :(

Kansas???

Does that mean you sold all the Nevada beachfront properties..?? :p

As for the topic...i'll believe anything when I have it in my hands...

But I agree with Caliking...so far, Peter Jackson has set the bar..

How about calling the original cast back for interviews?
That would make good extras!

Please. Lucasfilm put out there own CD with lots of stuff on it - Behind the Magic - I think it was called that. There were at least 1 or 2 other CDs officially released by Lucasfilm. Plus there is all the interviews and behind the scenes stuff on the LD Boxset.

It seems each year they add more and more "information" to the SW rumor.

Because that would be logical. And not like they didn't do that for the 97 issues.

I'll believe it when I see a press release...

Any truth that Tom Selleck was supposed to play Han Solo?

What - you mean bilking the public by blatent and in your face double dipping? (Triple dipping if you count the inevatable Boxed Set when the third one comes out).

No thank you - I can do without that.

I really don't consider it to be double dipping. We all knew months in advance that there would be two releases for the movies. A theatrical edition late summer, and an extended edition in the fall.

I suppose it's much better releasing a flick barebones first and then springing a so-called "SE" on the public [recent example: Jennifer Lopez's "Enough"].

Back when the first version of LOtR was announced, PJ & New Line both mentioned that SEs were forthcoming.

No one put a gun to your head forcing you to double dip..

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I really don't consider it to be double dipping. We all knew months in advance that there would be two releases for the movies. A theatrical edition late summer, and an extended edition in the fall.

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Exactly.

And no one ever does, regardless if its announced beforehand or it comes a year later. :)

So you knew months in advance that you would be taking it up the ass from New Line? That makes things all better? (well, better than getting surprised, I guess. At least they were up front about going to the well twice).

And if "Luca$" had done the exact same thing, the same people who gleefuly bought the Rings double dip would be screaming for blood and rioting in the streets.

I think that the issue remains that there is plenty of joe 6 packs that even with that knowledge don't realize that it will be double dipped. atleast that was the case with FOTR. then again, if you compare the two situations, the only difference is that everyone loves the EE of LOTR while everyone hates the SE's of SW

Folks want to see it the way the director intended it to be seen with most other films except when it comes to star wars. the version the director wants is the version everyone hates. Odd how that works.

But we do need to factor in the whole Net users into this. Not everyone is connected to this information like we are. getting constant updates on stuff months ahead of time, it gives us an advantage when finding out all this info. the average joe really will buy the SE's of SW with no care about who is shooting first and will also complain about the double dipping of films including LOTR's. ;)

As much as i don't care about the LOTR trilogy...how is this getting it up the ass?

There is no overlap of material from either releases. One is the theatrical release...the other is the extended. None of the extras on either release are the same. If *I* were a fan of these movies, I'd buy both releases as well.

:crap: neither is your threadcrap -ohbfrank-

I'll beleive this rumor when I see an official announcement, maybe it's actually true, who knows :p

"Taking it up the ass"?

There is ZERO overlap between the sets. Two completely different versions of the film, two completely different sets of extras. Everyone is told months and months in advance of the plan.

How is this a bad thing in any way, shape, or form?

If I'm a casual fan, I buy the first set and be done with it. If I'm a big fan, I buy the 2nd set and be done with it.

If I'm a HUGE fan, I buy both and have what amounts to a 6-disc set for the film. And probably only spend about $35 or so total.


I personally can't picture a more perfect DVD release process than they are using for LotR. What would your solution be?

I can't believe there are still people who are bitter about NewLine/PJ releasing the theatrical and EE versions of the film. Even for most people who do not get info like this on the internet (or even care to find out) has had enough warning to know that TTT and ROTK will be release in two versions. I can't imagine anyone in their shoes doing a better way of doing it. And NewLine/PJ have been more forthcoming about their highly lurcrative franchise than anyone else IMO. I believe them when they say the theatrcial version and the EE (Director's version IMO) are it. Sure they might "repackage" it and come out with differen't versions but so does Houghton Mifflin when they publish paperback, trade paperback, and hardcover editions of LOTR. It'd be like book geeks crying foul when publishers put fancy new covers or new editions of them.

Some of you guys are real babies. Don't buy it. Or be happy with what you got or hold out until a " super special edition" comes out. Or sell and upgrade. Figure it out cause I can't help ya. :yack:


Star Wars is different. Lucas has gone back and revised his original work and won't let the present generation preserve what we saw in '77, '80, and '83 for posterity. I still have the VHS versions but they are going to deteriorate in time. The fact that it could easily be done is what bothers me. Whether the DVD versions have lots of documentaries or special features is a minor issue compared to seeing Star Wars as it was originally presented. Its ultimately George Lucas' work and he can do whatever he wants with it. But I'm still hoping the loyal fans and their input still counts for something and can influence him. Just like the time Lucas changed the title of "Revenge of the Jedi" to "Return of the Jedi".

So according to Lucas, the Original versions of the Star Wars Trilogy no longer exist.

The only way I could think of is if he totally changed all original prints when he made the Special Editions, and now all prints only include the Special Edition versions.

If that is true, then he has completely turned his back on the versions that made him what he is today. It was the Original versions that made him rich and the owner of ILM, THX and any other off shoots, not the Special Editions!

Has Lucas turned to the "Dark Side"?
Or is he pulling our leg?

Well...an anagram of George Lucas is: A CREEL GOG US

EVER THINK OF THAT??!

Another anagram of George Lucas is: A CRUEL EGG SO

I am not bitter about the double dipping of LOTR, the issue is some folks here say its not double dipping when they announce beforehand 2 versions. If you are going to doubledip, then the New Line way is the way to go. Announce both versions ahead of time and let people make a decision.

Now Sony and Columbia are the biggest pieces of turd when it comes to double dipping. Special Edition, Collectors Edition, SuperBit, SuperBit Deluxe,

One more: A ECO EGG SLUR

Also, A CEO SLUGGER

A CURSE EGG LO

Completly different? Ah, so the directors cut would be the musical version with a CG Humphry Bogart doing the dance number with Boogaloo Shrimp? The version with the flying cars and giant transforming robots?

Oh - what, more scenes of hobbits walking? Yeah - that's a whole new movie.

One set with seemless branching or the cut footage included as an extra. Really, both sets could have been combined into one package without much difficulty - but they opted for milking the fans as much as they could.

I didn't say a new movie, I said a different VERSION. Which it is. There's over 40 minutes of new footage inserted into the film.

I'm not sure I'm following your point about CGI Bogarts... unless you are going out of your way to make it seem like I said something wrong or unclear. Which I didn't.

Which would have potentially made the only edition available a 4- or 5-disc set. Is that realistic? What would you consider to be an acceptable MSRP for such a set? What about casual fans who don't want all the extras?

As for 'milking'... again, most people are able to find the first set for about $15 and the second for about $20 without much effort. And, once again, have the CHOICE to get just one or the other if they wish. Seems like a win-win.

Doesn't the E.T. set have both versions of the movie on one DVD? It's not as if it branches or anthing, am I right?

I don't see why Lucas can't do the same w/the original trilogy. OK, so it wasn't your vision, George, but it doesn't mean we didn't love it or that it doesn't exist!

I'm sure that people from the Flash Gordon era would want to see the old serials the way they were made, and NOT see a newer version of it just because the technology is there. Folks who saw the Original Trilogy remember and love it for what it was. And we certainly didn't fault the FX; to the contrary, it was revolutionary and set the standard. It will always be remembered as that.

I've been lucky to have two sets of the Original Trilogy on Laserdisc (and talk aboutdouble-dipping; hey're have been many releases of the movie on Laserdisc): the re-done ones in THX (with the large stormtrooper's head on ANH, Dath Vader's head on TESB, and Yoda's big head on ROTJ), and then the boxed set of the Special Edition. (Too bad they'r enot anamorphic).

If the movie's worth it, I'll by more than one version (yes, I have both LOTR:FOTR, and have LOTR:TTT and have the EE on pre-order). The movies are differnet for both LOTR & SW, so as a movie fan, it's always good to look at both.

4 discs? Why not. They did something like that with Brazil, with the Real Version on one disc, and the Other Version on disc 2 with the extras on the remainder. Seems pretty simple to me.

I mean if Pearl Harbor could get all that running time into one package, then surely New Line could do it here.

So if it's cheap enough, you dont mind double dipping? Ah, thats a good and positive message to send to the studios.

The other thing people are throwing about is that "They should know that two editions are planned." completly forgetting that we are an amazingly small demographic of well informed consumers. The average man on the street does not spend nearly the amount of time we do researching movies. The BEST he'll get is the "Coming Soon" board at blockbuster. In short, this is hardly someone who will know that the second disc is on it's way.

We're the excption, not the rule.

Why not? Here's why not.

There are people who have no desire to own or watch the extended cut of the film, and there are other people who have no desire to own or watch the theatrical cut on DVD. Why should these people be forced to spend extra cash for something they don't want or need, just to be able to get what they do want? A single mega-set that included all of the extras from both existing sets, and both cuts of the film, would probably have an MSRP of $50 or more. The overwhelming majority of people simply wouldn't buy it.

It is interesting that you mention Brazil as your example of how to do it right, when the 3-disc version of Brazil WAS A DOUBLE-DIP!

Still, I get the feeling that all of these fairly obvious points are not going to sway you, since I think you already understand them, but you're just looking for a fight. Why, I'm not sure.