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How many people here would buy a DVD of failed T.V. pilots?

View Poll Results: Would you buy a DVD that contained failed television pilots that never aired.
Yes, absolutely. What a brilliant idea. I always wondered what they are like.
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No, who cares what shows didn't make it on TV. They must have sucked if they didn't air.
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Maybe, I'd only buy it if it had certain celebrities I like.
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Sometimes it burns when I pee.
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How many people here would buy a DVD of failed T.V. pilots?

 
Old 08-26-03, 05:50 PM
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How many people here would buy a DVD of failed T.V. pilots?

Maybe it's been thought of before, but I've never seen it anywhere. I think it is a brilliant idea for a DVD. I hate television & sitcoms most of all. I for one, would probably find the failed TV pilots WAY more entertaining then what actually makes it to TV. I got the idea from an inteview with Bob Odenkirk where he mentioned there is a TV station that airs nothing but failed TV pilots & that he has probably worked on more of them than anyone. I'm sure it will never happen b/c there would be to much involved simply getting permission from networks or stars etc, but

I think it is a great idea, the possibilies are endless. And it seems like it would be a goldmind. The shows are already shot, there is just about no production value apart from just putting the DVD together & probably getting rights to everything. Different networks could do different volumes. Or just each talent involved could have there own DVDs. The failed TV pilots of Bob Odenkirk, the failed TV pilots of Dave Chappele etc, etc. I would even think a lot of the celebrities would like the idea. They were probably proud of the shows, & now people get a chance to see the product after all these years. And w/ the power of DVDs nowadays, who knows what could happen if their volume had high sales.

Thoughts, ideas for how to package it, or comments on what a dumb idea it is are welcome.

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Yes, absolutely.

It would save me the trouble of recording them off of TR!O next week.

I think this may be what you heard Bob Odenkirk talking about (and not an actual TV network).
The Other Network, as the traveling series is called, is basically a rotating collection of pilots configured differently at each stop. In D.C., where the series begins its tour at Visions Cinema on 14 February, eight pilots split into two anthologies are featured. Each pilot is set up by a crudely videotaped introductory spiel by its creator, a good idea, since watching stand-alone shows strung together without context might be disorienting.
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Originally posted by Dimension X

I think this may be what you heard Bob Odenkirk talking about (and not an actual TV network).
No, it was in an interview he did for a local newspaper, someone posted the link in the Mr. Show thread. But I never read the article you just posted before, it's a good read also. That Trio thing must be what I heard about. Is that a network? I only have basic cable so I would never get to see it.

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Yep, TR!O is on digital cable and DirectTV.

Edit: Here's some info from TR!O's schedule for next week

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If you are interested in pilots that were never picked up, you should check out the book "Unsold Television Pilots 1955-1989" by Lee Goldberg. I've got a copy, and it is interesting to browse through. There were a lot of intersting shows that were shot and never picked up. For example: The Savage from 1973. Directed by Steven Spielberg, written by Richard Levinson (created Columbo, and Mannix) and William Link (created Cloumbo and Murder, She Wrote) and staring Martin Landau. This was Spielberg's last TV work before moving on to the big screen.
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I'd definately be interested in this!
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Most televisions aren't very aerodynamic. I'm guessing most people who try to pilot them fail miserably.
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Originally posted by videophile
If you are interested in pilots that were never picked up, you should check out the book "Unsold Television Pilots 1955-1989" by Lee Goldberg. I've got a copy, and it is interesting to browse through. There were a lot of intersting shows that were shot and never picked up. For example: The Savage from 1973. Directed by Steven Spielberg, written by Richard Levinson (created Columbo, and Mannix) and William Link (created Cloumbo and Murder, She Wrote) and staring Martin Landau. This was Spielberg's last TV work before moving on to the big screen.
The Savage is one of the 10 pilots TR!O will be showing next week.
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Ohhh! Thanks for letting me know Dimension X! I'll make a point of watching it.

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Only if Misfits of Science is on the DVD.
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Only if Misfits of Science is on the DVD.
It wouldn't qualify. The show was picked up, and a few episodes aired before it was cancelled.
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The first Star Trek pilot was a failure starring Jeffrey Hunter, because the producers wanted a "Wagon Train" to the stars. I have both the B & W and the B & W/Color Pilot. The second chance was with William Shatner a new ships doctor, Dr. Leonard McCoy episode was called "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Guests were Gary Lockwood and Sally Kellerman, 2nd pilot was bought and Star Trek started.
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Originally posted by danol
The first Star Trek pilot was a failure starring Jeffrey Hunter, because the producers wanted a "Wagon Train" to the stars. I have both the B & W and the B & W/Color Pilot. The second chance was with William Shatner a new ships doctor, Dr. Leonard McCoy episode was called "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Guests were Gary Lockwood and Sally Kellerman, 2nd pilot was bought and Star Trek started.
The original pilot, "The Cage", is widely available on VHS and DVD.
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Only if "Heat Vision and Jack" was on it.
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heat vision was great, too bad it never made it. i also heard about another pilot by conan o'brien and i htink robert smigel, that star adam west as a retired cop show actor who started to play "real" detective and try to solve crimes. it sounded great.

plus i'd love to see the mulhuland drive pilot to see what that was like.
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Originally posted by no pants
heat vision was great, too bad it never made it. i also heard about another pilot by conan o'brien and i htink robert smigel, that star adam west as a retired cop show actor who started to play "real" detective and try to solve crimes. it sounded great.

plus i'd love to see the mulhuland drive pilot to see what that was like.
Lookwell is the Adam West pilot written by Conan O'Brien and Robert Smigel. It aired once in 1991, and, yes, it is funny as hell.

It is also one of the 10 pilots that TR!O will be airing next week.
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I taped a special on TV a few years ago that had clips from many of these shows: Lookwell looked hilarious.
Was Madame Sin (with Bette Davis) a pilot? and all the shows from the 1970's where someone (a cop, a kid, a monkey) was partnered with a robot!!! (We need an "all robot channel.")
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I would buy for particular shows that I might be interested in.
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Originally posted by Numanoid
The original pilot, "The Cage", is widely available on VHS and DVD.
Not exactly. Even the colour version of "The Cage" is cobbled together from "Menagerie" and "Cage" footage (you can see the colour shift occasionally when the scenes change).

Also, it still uses the incorrect soundtrack mix that is cobbled together from both versions. The soundtrack for "The Cage" contained several differences that are missed on the VHS/DVD, including the male Keeper voice for the entire episode (not just the restored scenes), some different music cues, etc.

I wish Paramount would hire Mark Ayres (of the Dr. Who Restoration Team) or someone else with good audio restoration abilities to clean up the original "Cage" soundtrack that was on the B/W film print (the re-discovered colour footage was silent, which is presumably, why the same old soundtrack mix was used) and give us a proper release of this pilot.

Would make a nice disc if paired with the original pilot version of "Where No Man"...
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Hell yeah - sounds like a great idea to me.
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Originally posted by no pants
plus i'd love to see the mulhuland drive pilot to see what that was like.
Exactly what i would like to see also.
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I'd like to see the failed live-action Clerks pilot. Supposedly pretty bad.
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Originally posted by milo bloom
I'd like to see the failed live-action Clerks pilot. Supposedly pretty bad.
Yea that'd be great!
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I'd be interested in a collection of 60's, 70's and early 80's pilots of sci fi or fantasy type series.

Not really that interested in newer shows or comedys.
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Originally posted by milo bloom
I'd like to see the failed live-action Clerks pilot. Supposedly pretty bad.
I saw this. Kevin Smith showed it at a film festival in Redbank. It is actually hard to watch, & to me kind of shows that Smith is such a shill, he will milk his products for all they are worth. The show actually had a couple of stars in it buy I can't remember who they were.
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