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gutwrencher 08-29-03 11:43 PM


Originally posted by Sunday Morning
blah. blah. blah. BU rules.
agreed:D. just watched Bone last night. saw a cut version back around '78, but this was a totally different experience. I thought the transfer was outstanding and was very pleased with the performance of Yaphet Kotto. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

fanboy. God I hate that freakin' word. sounds too much like gayboy. I'd like to find out who invented that lame term and slap them silly. -wink-

CrumpsBrother 08-30-03 02:04 AM


Originally posted by SpinnerX
No, it's not really, because Blue Underground is not a creative entity. They are just a DVD label, so collecting all their releases is not like collecting all films from a certain actor or director. It's like collecting all films from a certain film distribution company.
Ah, but BU has something most film distribution companies don't have...a philosophy! And that is why the company is attracting so many die hard fans.

Saying that you want to see a Warner Bros. film could mean anything -- MATRIX RELOADED, ANALYZE THAT, ALEX & EMMA -- but saying that you like Blue Underground's DVDs is saying that you are a fan of a very specific type of cult film.

djtoell 08-30-03 04:47 AM


Originally posted by SpinnerX
No, it's not really, because Blue Underground is not a creative entity.
Actually, in the hands of filmmakers like Bill Lustig and David Gregory, Blue Underground is very much a creative entity. They're not simply the post office dropping off a package that someone else put together.

DJ

SpinnerX 08-30-03 05:04 AM


Originally posted by djtoell
Actually, in the hands of filmmakers like Bill Lustig and David Gregory, Blue Underground is very much a creative entity. They're not simply the post office dropping off a package that someone else put together.

DJ

Bill Lustig is a filmmaker, but he has not made any of the films that Blue Underground has issued so far. David Gregory puts together very nice featurettes, but I am not sold on extras alone. Blue Underground is not in the business of making movies and it's the movies that matter most to me. I will not buy a disc simply because it's put out by a certain label. I buy a disc because I love the movie. But that's just me.

djtoell 08-30-03 05:10 AM


Originally posted by SpinnerX
Bill Lustig is a filmmaker, but he has not made any of the films that Blue Underground has issued so far.
He has not directed any of the features they have released, but the possibility of creativity does not begin and end with the feature film. Just because the features are what's most important to you, it doesn't mean that BU is not often engaged in a creative enterprise.


David Gregory puts together very nice featurettes, but I am not sold on extras alone. Blue Underground is not in the business of making movies and it's the movies that matter most to me. I will not buy a disc simply because it's put out by a certain label. I buy a disc because I love the movie. But that's just me.
So enjoy what you enjoy, and let others do the same.

DJ

DVDude! 08-30-03 10:41 AM


Originally posted by Romero
This is my only movie in my collection that has 0 menus. When it finishes it just plays again. If you hit the menu button it restarts the movie. Weird
My 1961, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000 World Series DVDs (all the available ones where the Yankees won) are like that. It's rather annoying. And they have forced commercials before the main program begins. They are around $20 each and are only available from shop.mlb.com or qvc.com (i.e. no discounts from other etailers), making them relatively expensive for such a stripped down DVD.

Oh, and back on topic: I own one Blue Underground flick, Dead & Buried, with no plans to buy any of the others that have been released so far except maybe Q - The Winged Serpent. I will definitely buy The Final Countdown though.

SCHMEGGA 08-30-03 10:47 AM

I don' have any of their DVDs but will be getting Final Countdown when it comes out. Finally someone is giving this film the proper treatment.

SpinnerX 08-30-03 04:58 PM


Originally posted by djtoell
So enjoy what you enjoy, and let others do the same.
So simply by attempting to discuss label worship, I'm somehow ruining other people's enjoyment of these DVDs? Jeez, sorry for hijacking the thread.

BLUE UNDERGROUND ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

gutwrencher 08-30-03 08:50 PM


Originally posted by SpinnerX
So simply by attempting to discuss label worship, I'm somehow ruining other people's enjoyment of these DVDs? Jeez, sorry for hijacking the thread.

BLUE UNDERGROUND ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

atta boy!! rotfl

you dont ruin my enjoyment....you increase my passion. I'm not just one of BU's fanboys, I'm the fan-overlord-wink-:p.

EPKJ 09-14-03 11:04 PM

Spinner, you miss the point. Blue Underground is creative in the sense that the company is selective about the types of films it chooses to release. The company is creating a persona for itself. Blue Underground puts out genre films which represent my primary collection focus. Because they do such a great job, I reward them with my patronage.

gutwrencher 09-14-03 11:34 PM


Originally posted by EPKJ

The company is creating a persona for itself. Blue Underground puts out genre films which represent my primary collection focus. Because they do such a great job, I reward them with my patronage.

:thumbsup:

SpinnerX 09-15-03 03:02 AM


Originally posted by EPKJ
Spinner, you miss the point. Blue Underground is creative in the sense that the company is selective about the types of films it chooses to release. The company is creating a persona for itself. Blue Underground puts out genre films which represent my primary collection focus. Because they do such a great job, I reward them with my patronage.
Then we could say that Sony Pictures Classics is a creative entity because of the way they select and promote their titles. In fact every film company, distribution company and video label could be seen as a creative entity if that is your criteria. Personally, I just don't see it that way. There's the creative side (the films) and the business side (manufacturing, promotion and distribution).

The Exister 09-15-03 07:38 AM

Anyway, has anyone peo-ordered the Mondo collection? If so, did you experience sticker shock when you did? I know it has a ton of discs, but it looks like $90 is the cheapest I've seen (DDD).

I would love to get it, but I don't have that kind of scratch. I'll have to wait for a used copy I guess.

Oh, and has anyone seen the Chris Lee collection yet - I've heard some people got advance copies somehow. If so, how is it?

RichDB10 09-15-03 08:11 AM

$90 is pretty much the cheapest i've seen it for pre-order as well (~$87 exc. shipping @ DVDPacific) although i doubt i'll be picking this up due to the subject matter, which tbh i'm not totally familiar with but understand it does polarize a lot of peoples views as to the film-makers intents/motives etc.

I pre-ordered the Christopher Lee collection some time ago and as DVD Pacific very often ship before street date i'm hoping that will be the case in this instance.

gutwrencher 09-15-03 10:57 AM


Originally posted by The Exister
Anyway, has anyone peo-ordered the Mondo collection? If so, did you experience sticker shock when you did? I know it has a ton of discs, but it looks like $90 is the cheapest I've seen (DDD).


have not pre-ordered any BU titles of late. I'll just order this and get it in 24 hours on the day of its release....unless BB gets some copies in. I put $ back just for this set.....very pumped. same for the Lee box.

gutwrencher 09-19-03 03:35 PM

Lee/Franco limited
 
just a reminder...the Christopher Lee Collection is very limited. 7,500 copies I believe. might want to pre-order if you have not already.:D

RichDB10 09-21-03 08:00 AM

Hopefully mine should ship in the next few days in time to be received on or before 'street date'.

Review of the 'Bloody Judge' disc which is an exclusive to this set here:-

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult...oody_judge.htm

with reviews of the other discs in the set to follow.

On a side note, have decided to give 'The Mondo Cane Collection' a miss...with so many!! excellent releases (inc R2's) in October i just can't justify spending the money on something i'm not entirely familiar with and whilst i know BU's presentation will be excellent it's a bit immaterial if it's not going to appeal to me.

Darryl 09-21-03 09:42 AM

I'd pass on the Mondo Cane collection too if Farewell Uncle Tom was not included, but since it is, take my money Mr. Lustig.... and add a DEATHDREAM disc with that order too.

yojimbo1 09-22-03 01:35 AM

does anyone know what the mondo box is limited to?

EPKJ 09-22-03 01:47 AM


Originally posted by SpinnerX
Then we could say that Sony Pictures Classics is a creative entity because of the way they select and promote their titles. In fact every film company, distribution company and video label could be seen as a creative entity if that is your criteria. Personally, I just don't see it that way. There's the creative side (the films) and the business side (manufacturing, promotion and distribution).
Possibly, though I don't know as I am unfamiliar with the Sony Classics line. Blue Underground stands for certain standards and qualities. This makes the company unique. It is also a small company without the resources of Sony. This makes a big difference in the level of support I am willing to give to keep this company going. I don't need to buy every MGM release to insure that I will continue to get quality releses from MGM. I do need to do that to make sure that Blue Underground remains profitable. I am supporting my own interests.

Narshty 09-22-03 05:04 AM


Originally posted by yojimbo1
does anyone know what the mondo box is limited to?
It's 10,000 (or rather 9,999 since I pre-ordered mine). :)

sracer 09-22-03 09:02 AM

Why must Lustig perpetuate the marketing gimmicks that he pioneered at Anchor Bay?! You've heard of PC software marketed as "shareware"? Well, Lustig has introduced the concept of "scareware" to the DVD scene.

These arbitrary "limited editions" are nothing but attempts to scare consumers into buying ASAP...or risk "missing out".

I'm extremely interested in the mondo boxset, but I don't want to encourage BL to continue these stunts...so like the other AB "limited editions" I'll wait until they're discounted before picking it up.

gutwrencher 09-22-03 09:45 AM


Originally posted by sracer


These arbitrary "limited editions" are nothing but attempts to scare consumers into buying ASAP...or risk "missing out".



http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/errrr.gif

it worked...I pissed my pants again Bill....damn you!

wont usually work on me like that. I buy the day of release....limited or not. if I want it....I buy it. now I'm going skydiving again on the 1sthttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/scared.gif. I have to buy the Lee box day of release...just in case I end up a stain on the pavement. at least I went out watching something I wanted-wink-. my damn friends talked me into doing another low altitude pull. bastards.

lets see what limited discs are around a year from now...just for kicks.:D

Quatermass 09-22-03 05:12 PM

I noticed "Toolbox Murders", "Prowler" and "Shock Waves" are all price dropping on 9/30. As luck would have it, I already own all of these, since I had pre-ordered all of them in the past (didn't want to miss out) . Anyone know of any other BU impending drops?

SideShow 09-24-03 07:28 PM

Today I recieved my Christopher Lee box set early... it looks amazing!

The only other BU disc I own is The Crazies, though a lot of them are on my wishlist- especially Two Evil Eyes. So far from what I've seen this company rocks. :)

CrumpsBrother 09-24-03 09:54 PM

Rumor has it that there'll be a price drop on the SPAGHETTI WESTERN box early next year. Hope so, as I'm a-waitin' fer it! :D

Basically, all of the titles which were initially released via BU's distribution deal with Image are going to get re-released through Rykodisk at a lower MSRP.

unbeeleebable 09-24-03 10:33 PM


Originally posted by sracer
Why must Lustig perpetuate the marketing gimmicks that he pioneered at Anchor Bay?!
Why not I ask? He is in a business of selling product and obviously this one form of marketing to assist that.

sracer 09-25-03 08:16 AM


Originally posted by unbeeleebable
Why not I ask? He is in a business of selling product and obviously this one form of marketing to assist that.
hmmm, selling more product by limiting availability?

RichDB10 09-25-03 08:47 AM


Originally posted by sracer
hmmm, selling more product by limiting availability?
Excellent point....but in a wider sense i think it may.
The fact that it is labelled as a 'limited edition' is going to entice collectors..and lets be honest there are those who pander to this.
Those same collectors (whilst many don't even watch them or open them, i appreciate) may not be too familiar of BU's other catalogue titles so if they get to see BU's product via the marketing gimmick of LE's it may help to further sales of other titles when people realise the quality of their releases.

Having said that...scratch everything i've just said...i may be dreaming or being overly optimistic :D

Adam Tyner 09-25-03 08:49 AM

...or more likely, to try to ensure that the target audience doesn't walk by a DVD, think "wow, that's neat; I'll have to get that later", then forget about it. The 'limited edition' label is an attempt to add some immediacy to a purchase...to avoid having dozens of copies languishing on store shelves, collecting dust. I think it's kind of silly, personally, but I understand why they do it.

gutwrencher 09-25-03 04:23 PM


Originally posted by ctyner
...or more likely, to try to ensure that the target audience doesn't walk by a DVD, think "wow, that's neat; I'll have to get that later", then forget about it. The 'limited edition' label is an attempt to add some immediacy to a purchase...
as a collector...I think I've mastered this problem. I treat every dvd like it's limited, BU or not. I jump on all of them the same, usually. many limited releases are just that.....and you have to learn to know just how limited. I Drink Your Blood was obvious....and look how many people lost out.

gutwrencher 10-02-03 07:41 PM

according to the new update over at BU....David Cronenberg's Fast Company is soon to be had.

Darryl 10-02-03 09:18 PM

Looking forward to seeing Bill Lustig at the Chiller / Fango Con in January. He'll be previewing upcoming BU titles.

EPKJ 10-03-03 12:32 PM

I just finished watching The Christopher Lee Collection. I loved every disc in the set. I had the Fu Manchu films on VHS, and they have never looked this good. This is a great buy.

gutwrencher 10-03-03 12:53 PM


Originally posted by EPKJ
I just finished watching The Christopher Lee Collection. I loved every disc in the set. I had the Fu Manchu films on VHS, and they have never looked this good. This is a great buy.
just polished off my set as well....happy I have it.:thumbsup:

bboisvert 10-03-03 01:00 PM


Originally posted by sracer
hmmm, selling more product by limiting availability?
As others have said: YES.

If you have a product that you estimate will sell 10,000 copies... why not release it in a 'limited edition' of 20,000? Doing so will usually result in more sales (from collectors, speculators, and people with a 'quick, gotta-get-it-now' mentality).

Look at Anchor Bay for some classic examples of this business model. I doubt SUPERGIRL would have sold 10% of what it did, without the numbered, limited edition aspect.

The Exister 10-03-03 02:46 PM


Originally posted by gutwrencher
according to the new update over at BU....David Cronenberg's Fast Company is soon to be had.
NICE!

Darryl 10-03-03 03:20 PM

The Mondo Cane box set from BU streets on Oct. 28th. 8 discs - $127.00 over at amazon.com

RichDB10 10-07-03 10:45 AM


Originally posted by Darryl
The Mondo Cane box set from BU streets on Oct. 28th. 8 discs - $127.00 over at amazon.com
Yes....as i mentioned earlier....just can't bring myself to buy this set and being unfamiliar with the material besides 'reputation' etc...i suppose this is one release which you just can't justify as a good 'blind buy'.

gutwrencher 10-07-03 02:54 PM


Originally posted by RichDB10
i suppose this is one release which you just can't justify as a good 'blind buy'.
some are saying the same about the Lee collection...but the price is a deal. I've saved up about $75 for Mondo and I'm going in totally blind....except for what research I've done...which is usually enough for me. lets hope I'm right.


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