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Giallofan 07-31-03 12:39 PM

The Killer: Criterion Collection Question Please?
 
Hello,
Just a quick question to the board, as I've been out of circulation for a while and need some advice about this dvd.

I have a chance right now to buy this dvd for $150. I know for a fact it is authentic. It does NOT have the "white ring" though, and was wondering if this is still a good deal for this dvd. It's in excellent condition except for a tiny abrasion on the disc itself, which does not affect the play.

Just want to know if I should jump on this deal? It sounds good to me, but just wanted some back up advice. Thank you.
Dino

PixyJunket 07-31-03 12:44 PM

$150 is too much for any DVD.. :eek:

texasgator 07-31-03 12:51 PM

If it means alot to you to own that disc, then, yes, I would say $150 is a good deal. Here's why -- at the prodding of my wife to start purging some dvds that I never watch, I started following Ebay on this disc. I tracked several auctions last week and they all ended at around $230. So, I decided to put mine up for auction since I never get the urge to watch that one and with 4 days left on the auction, it is already up to $190.

I guess that kind of gives you a reasonable "going-rate" of approx. $220. This is just from what I have seen in the past week. Hope that helps.

myrdh 07-31-03 12:52 PM

Pass on that deal. Use your $150 and go buy 10 - 15 dvds that you will enjoy watching.

Giallofan 07-31-03 12:53 PM

Well, I realize that, but this Killer dvd goes for that much. Actually I've seen it going for much more than this. It may have had the "White Ring" though, i'm not sure? But in any case, I'd just like to know if this is a good deal for "this" particular dvd.

Giallofan 07-31-03 12:56 PM

Ok, people are bringing me to my senses here. You're right, $150 is a little ridiculous for a movie I may watch once or twice. I suppose I could always sell it off after awhile, but by then someone else may have the rights to it and distribute it, and say goodbye to getting my money back on that deal. I think I will pass. Thanks people

PixyJunket 07-31-03 01:11 PM

The Killer is widely avaiable in other version, Region 1 and Region 0.

Fandango 07-31-03 01:34 PM

The Killer from HKL is supposed to be one of the best versions out.

Here is a comparison of all the versions out there:

http://www.loveandbullets.com/killerdvd.htm

TopHatCat64 07-31-03 01:35 PM

Fox Lorber also has has a region 1 (although its OOP now) that I find perfectly fine (although I haven't seen the HKL or the CC version).

The Nature Boy 07-31-03 02:08 PM

It depends on the seller. If a retailer/second hand seller, I wouldn't accept a "tiny abrasion". It hurts your eventual resale value(since the logic for buying in this thread is your buying price($150) vs the current market value($220 or so). The single most important component has a defect, even cosmetically, then you know why the price is so low if it's infact a retailer selling it. If they are willing to sell for 150, they'll probably sell for 100. As great a film as it is, I can't imagine the demand is THAT HIGH so that if you don't jump on it it will go. The retailer probably paid 75 bucks at most for it(unless it's been in stock since it's release), so 100 bucks is still a reasonable price for a "defective" product.

If it's a friend/acquaintence, and you really just must have the film, borrow the movie and burn it on DVD(take or pay to have this done if you don't have the gear). Even if you gotta cough up 20 bucks for this, you're still making out better if you are interested in the art and not the investment.

theneobez 07-31-03 02:13 PM

Get the Fox Lorber version, in my opinion no movie is worth that much, especially when it's avaialble on DVD through some other companies.

D-Ball 07-31-03 03:01 PM


Originally posted by Giallofan
Ok, people are bringing me to my senses here. You're right, $150 is a little ridiculous for a movie I may watch once or twice.
Good choice. For $150 you could buy a region-free player, get the Hong Kong Legends disc and still have money left over.

Random 07-31-03 03:17 PM

I remember I traded a copy of spinal tap criterion I bought for 30 bucks for this disc, got the re-release of spinal tap later on. didn't like a double sided criterion anyways. Best trade I ever did. I love this disc/movie. And the menu is too cool.

MrBob 07-31-03 03:31 PM


Originally posted by D-Ball
Good choice. For $150 you could buy a region-free player, get the Hong Kong Legends disc and still have money left over.
You beat me to my post.

I have the Universe R0 version that cost me like $5 and it is good enough for the time being.

Giallofan 07-31-03 03:41 PM

Ok people. I'm going to take the majority's advice and search for another distributor for this movie. Afterall, i really just want it for the movie itself, not to re-sell it. If I did get the Criterion though, which was off of a second-hand seller, I probably would only watch it a couple of times anyway, and then probably try to sell it just because i know it's worth a few bucks, and some people are willing to pay for it. $150 doesn't come easy to me, and I think I would have regretted it in the long run anyway?

I have a multi-region player that can convert pal to ntsc, so I'm sure I'll find something out there, no matter what format it's in, that's ten times cheaper than the Criterion oe? I collect Criterion's, but I'm not a completist or anything of them. I have a few oop's, but I think this one, as well as Salo, I could do without paying the big bucks. I think Salo is another that's available in a Region 2 Pal format, if memory serves me? That's one movie I've heard so much about, that I'd love to get. I'm also a big fan and collector of Euro-Cult movies, so I don't think there would be anything in it that would shock me that much? But I heard it is a shocking film? But that's another topic.

Thanks for the suggestions people.

Yocke 07-31-03 04:27 PM

The HKL version is awesome. Anamorphic and everything. Get that!

mikewendt 07-31-03 06:42 PM


Originally posted by myrdh
Pass on that deal. Use your $150 and go buy 10 - 15 dvds that you will enjoy watching.
I was thinking the same thing.

cultshock 07-31-03 06:49 PM


Originally posted by Giallofan
I have a multi-region player that can convert pal to ntsc, so I'm sure I'll find something out there, no matter what format it's in, that's ten times cheaper than the Criterion oe? I collect Criterion's, but I'm not a completist or anything of them. I have a few oop's, but I think this one, as well as Salo, I could do without paying the big bucks. I think Salo is another that's available in a Region 2 Pal format, if memory serves me? That's one movie I've heard so much about, that I'd love to get. I'm also a big fan and collector of Euro-Cult movies, so I don't think there would be anything in it that would shock me that much? But I heard it is a shocking film? But that's another topic.
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If you have a multi-region player that can do PAL, problem solved. Just get the HKL R2 Killer and BFI R2 Salo. And you will still have a bunch of money left over. :)

DonnachaOne 07-31-03 07:28 PM

CRITERION DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN IT IS THE BEST.

My Armageddon, The Killer, and The Long Good Friday are all region two anamorphic.

Nothing against Criterion - they do the best possible job (for when they're doing it) 99% of the time. For the three I mentioned there has to be fifty Criterions that outmatch foreign counterparts.

Giallofan 07-31-03 08:21 PM

I will definetly try to seek those R2 Pal dvd's out of The Killer & Salo this weekend. Thanks for the advice people> :-)


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