Buttmunker

According to: http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/index2.cfm

Good News on the DVD front! I was searching around for any info on the DVD, checking some of the animation new sites and found this chat session that was held at the Home Theater Forum... http://www.hometheaterforum.com/files/warner03.txt

The chat has a lot of information about Warner Brothers releases on DVD and on of the questions posed is about the Tom and Jerry DVD's. The response is near the middle of the chat session. So to save you the search for it (unless you are really interested in some of the forthcoming DVD release and even if you are not read the whole thing)..Anyway, this is Warner Brothers response to the question:

TOM & JERRY collections will arrive with uncut, complete theatrical version cartoons starting next year. This will include all the cartoons made by Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera for MGM between 1940-1957.

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After all the hoopola these past years, are we to actually believe they've had a change of heart over the issues with the black maid, silent cannibals, etc? I'll wait before I start believing.

Red Dog

Yeah - I think you should put quotes around Complete.

Jepthah

I pray that the home video company has decided AGAINST any alterations. At the very least they can put the unaltered cartoons they are 'uncomfortable' about on separate discs, so the knee-jerk P.C. parents can avoid them.

Class316

Yep, we will wait and see!! Golden rule is never trust big corporations when they say "uncut".

Hopefully we'll have Jerry yell out "peel da potatoes" and the black maid with her broken up English intact and awesome quality on DVD!!

darmok

i have the Tom & Jerry: Whiskers Away DVD that WB put out. is it me, or are the intro's to the episodes modified? i don't remember seeing brightly colored borders during the MGM introduction on the LD releases?? did they put the border in all of their recent TJ compilations, and if so, why?

Buttmunker

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...v=glance&s=dvd

Just saw this on Amazon. But for $29.00?

woemcats

When did they change the maid's animation? I'm only 22, and I've seen at least a few episodes with her. "TOOOOOOOOOM-AASSSS!"

Scott27

That's probably a new set of some of the exisiting T&J DVDs.

nice_skis

Yeah! It probably is something like the two Tom and Jerry feature films being repackaged in a cardbox set or something like that.

Mexican Menace

Cut-um da carrot!

Cut-um potato!

Hold the onions.

Aphex Twin

Is this the cartoon that rips-off Itchy and Scratchy?

tacomantt

Yes, and The Wizard of Oz rips off Saving Private Ryan.

SCHMEGGA

literally

PatrickMcCart

The current T&J DVDs are simply TV transfers. Nothing more, nothing less.

The upcoming Looney Tunes DVDs are going to be uncut, so if the same people work on the Tom & Jerry sets, they'll be fine...

Except that I want to see "The Complete Gene Deitch Tom & Jerry" !

SlangNRocks

Will these be the same as the tom and jerry dvds that hkflix.com is selling? link

Class316

While it might be true the Looney Tunes DVDs will be uncut won’t they also be “selective”?

bboisvert

Exactly. It's easy to make a claim of 'uncut' when you are not including controversial cartoons on your set. When "Bugs Nips the Nips" shows up, then I'll believe...

SpaceGhoster

Probably not going to be the same. There are 114 shorts from the first series(non Jones or Deitch). The HK set only has 94 which is not quite complete.

tacomantt

I just want to know if the "Dicky Moe" episode is going to be included.

Buttmunker

I was born in 1970, and for many, many years, I was under a wrong impression about Tom and Jerry cartoons. I thought, because I saw the 1975 version of Tom and Jerry (where Jerry wore that gay red bow tie and they were friends), they were the first original Tom and Jerry cartoons. On the flip side, I thought the theatrical versions were the ones that came afterward. I thought this because... I was under the impression that we were in a progressive era, and that everything people did would get better, not worse. Since the Hanna/Barbera theatrical shorts were so superior, I thought they came after the Hanna/Barbera 1975 TV version.

I soon learned better. And I was shocked at how progress would have made a turn for the worse. But that's beside the point.

Dicky Moe, and that entire era of Tom and Jerry, is adequate for any other cartoon. But not for Tom and Jerry. Deitch didn't have to capitalize on the Tom and Jerry franchise (neither did Chuck Jones, for that matter) to have a successful cartoon series. They could have made up new characters for their stories. With that said, the Deitch and Jones versions of Tom and Jerry should not be included, and I am confident they will not. After all, there would be nothing to cut from them, as they were all TV-friendly when they were first aired.

And I hated that white guy for kicking the crap out of Tom. I felt really bad for him.

Rypro 525

I Vhope mgm/warner releases the entire mgm cartoon liberery including the "red hot riding hood trillogy" that cartoon network banned for being too sexual, and the short about the airplane family.

Dr. DVD

As I read the descriptions about how this DVD will be uncut I keep thinking of the four words Tom actually spoke in a deep voice on two occasions in the old series:

"Don't you believe it!"

Class316

Very well put!!

cinemaman

I find some of this thread very disconcerting. While I am a fan of Tom in Jerry in general, there is absolutely no denying that many of the early shorts were blatantly racist and offensive to anyone who isn't "white."

It is a sad comment on our civilization that even in this so-called enlightened era, I am not reading "I hope they will not be including those racist versions" but instead " I hope they WILL be including those racist versions".

Why are people so angry at not being able to see material that offends literally 75% of the worlds' population?

I humbly ask anyone who is so bent on having the "complete and uncut" versions and to-hell-with-pc-parents to watch these films sitting next to a Black person. Maybe seeing their pain, humiliation and anger at seeing themselves portrayed as cannibals, buffoons, etc. in these shorts might change your opinion.

I am not for censorship. But if these horrible reminders of how our racist country was not-to-long-ago must be preserved, then I hope there will be sufficient introductory/warnings/historical perspective on these DVDs - not only for parents, but to protect our next generation whom I fear is reversing the civil rights clock.

BTW- in a semi-related note, this is how Fox is handling the Charlie Chan dilemma. Understanding that these films - though well done - are offensive to Asians, they will not be showing these on TV but will release them only on DVD with a introduction/ historical perspective. I am convinced that is the only way to release these films. So, perhaps, DVD can satisfy both the purist and those that care about civil rights at the same time.

Thank you.

Regurgitator

The simple solution to this, cinemaman, is to release both an "UNCUT" and a "CUT" version much the same way as "RATED" and "UNRATED". That way, everyone is happy.