Rypro 525

I know you all would want to know that

MurraySiskind

Hope it's true.

ryuryu2949

That would be good news and explain why the movie discs are barebones with the supplements on the 4th disc.

pro-bassoonist

.....it is the French connection!!!

....mystery!!

shanester

So a DTS track can be added to any film even 20+ years old??

They did a great job for Das Boot SB why not Indy right??

If true/possible that would be pretty cool!

mdX

probably won't happen. given lucasfilm's involvement, you can expect to see DD 5.1-EX (aka THX Surround EX), but no DTS. I'm sure if you search you'll see this has been discussed ad naseum

milo bloom

DTS could be added to The Jazz Singer if they wanted to. The point of DTS isn't about 6.1 channels surround channels, it's the higher bitrate and better compression algorithm. Imagine a mono film encoded in the full 1509 kbps DTS codec instead of the 192 kbps we usually get these days. Even mono tracks have dynamic range and those extra bits could help them sound better.

NitroJMS

Spielberg is a huge proponent of DTS though. Most of his major releases have seen DTS on them (Minority Report, AI, Catch Me If You Can), if not, then a separate DTS release (Jurassic Park I and II, Saving Private Ryan)

DavidH

Yes, but these are Lucasfilms.

Also, I certainly wouldn't look to any French DVD Website for the most accurate details about Region 1.

JoeyOhhhh

Why not both? There aren't going to be any commentaries so there should be space for both tracks.

C Roberts

Since THX (owned by Lucasfilm) has a direct connection to Dolby Digital ES they don't put Dolby's competitor, DTS, on their discs. Thats why there is no DTS on the first two Star Wars discs.

Dacoops3

...but some THX certified DVD's have both DTS and DD 5.1 on them.

PacMan2006

Has there been a date set for the relase of the movies?

Deckard-10

Nothing would make me happier than having DTS tracks on the Indy films. &nbsp However, because of Lucasfilm, I just don't see it happening. &nbsp

Robert George

Two points...

1) DTS (Coherent Acoustics) is not a better compression algorithm. This is why DTS requires a higher bitrate to sound good compared to Dolby Digital.

2) The higher bitrate that DTS sounds best at (1509 kb/s) is almost never used anymore.

A total waste of bandwidth. Even uncompressed stereo PCM has lower bitrate (1411 kb/s). With the inherent limitations of a mono film soundtrack, I would bet a week's pay that 99.99% of people could not tell the difference between a properly encoded Dolby Digital 1.0 track at 192 kb/s and the mono master.

See above. DD 1.0 at 192 kb/s is capable of greater dynamic range and wider flat frequency response than any mono soundtrack master I know of.

digitalfreaknyc

Said the man who was ultimately crushed by the rolling boulder from Raiders and just recently freed.

DonnachaOne

Now, I know that THX and Dolby are buddy-buddy, which is why DTS hasn't been on previous LucasFilm DVDs.

But haven't the laserdiscs featured DTS sound, in other countries? Isn't this the reason why there are DTS bootlegs of the discs?

Quinty

There has never been a digital sound release of Indiana Jones on laserdisc anywere.
Pioneer originally announced the trioligy to be released on laserdisc with Dolby Digital 5.1 sound at the end of the format but at the and cancelling it.
These bootlegs are not official soundtracks.

honey59

As reported here on Dvdtalk it is suppose to be up for preorder 6/9 we will see

lisadoris

Bite your tongue we still don't know that officially . Plus it's not like there aren't movies with both DTS and commentary tracks on one disc. But somehow I don't see Lucas bending to the will of Spielberg on the DTS vs. DD 6.1 issue for Indy.

greatjedi

Here are the specs according to Amazon (Not that Amazon is always right, but here you go):

Discographic Information:
DVD Encoding: Region 1
Available Audio Tracks: English (Dolby Digital 5.1), Spanish (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround), French (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround)
THX Certified

Josh Z

Don't confuse "digital sound" with a 5.1 soundtrack. The laserdiscs had PCM digital audio.

Dean Walsh

But as you stated of 1509kbps DTS, the channel/bitrate configuration you mention is very rarely used on dvd these days, instead we normally get dual mono 2.0 at 192kbps, which would not carry the same fidelity.

I think mono or stereo tracks should be at least 384kbps... regardless of what tech specs may tell us of the dynamic range of 192kbps it still sounds just plain bad compared to an uncompressed PCM, regardless of source.

Robert George

Warner being the notable exception. Most of their mono tracks are encoded as 1.0 with the same bitrate as 2.0 (192 kb/s).

I don't necessarily agree that 2.0 at 192 inherently sounds "bad". I have heard a number of 2.0 tracks that sounded just fine. In my experience, the relative quality of a 2.0 track depends on the fidelity of the source master. Very often the source material for older film soundtracks is of limited range and dynamics. In such cases, DD 2.0 has no problem sounding as good as the source, which may well sound pretty weak regardless of how it is delivered.

Bear in mind, AC-3 is a better codec than MP3 and with a decent encoder, stereo MP3 at 192 kb/s can sound pretty good. Of course not as good as the uncompressed PCM CD, but still relatively good.

Squirrel God

I've got a double feature DVD in my collection that has a DD 3.0 mono (L, C, R) soundtrack on the first feature which is 320Kbps, and a DD2.0 224Kbps soundtrack on the second feature. It's the weirdest thing ever! (DVD is Life & Times of Colonel Blimp / A Matter of Life & Death double feature, Reg 2)

DTS or not, I'll be getting the Reg 1 release of the Indy boxset as one of the movies was censored on Reg 2.