DVD Rot - it's out there!!!
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Good lord, will it never end. Read this link and let's finally put the "melting glue" boogeyman to bed:
http://www.oto-online.com/jul01/basics.html
Or just do a google search yourself and read the countless pages of other reliable technical information from people who actually know what they're talking about.
http://www.oto-online.com/jul01/basics.html
Or just do a google search yourself and read the countless pages of other reliable technical information from people who actually know what they're talking about.
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From: on a river in a kayak..where else?
good info in that link. although I'm tempted to toss a few discs onto the sidewalk, or slip a flathead inside to test it's grip, I'll just pray that the peel strength is all they think it should be. what the hell, wheres that Kung Pow dvd...time for surgery.
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Originally posted by Timemeddler
What difference will trying another player make? It may well play the disc, but it doesn't change the fact that the condition of the disc has clearly deteriorated over time.
What difference will trying another player make? It may well play the disc, but it doesn't change the fact that the condition of the disc has clearly deteriorated over time.
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You seem to automatically assume the "Disc" is bad when in fact it may well be your "player"! If the disc is indeed bad then it would not play in ANY player! The odds are more likely of a player going bad and not being able to play certain discs it used to, then having the disc go bad. The lasers on the player can go out of alignment or get dirty which gives the player less tolerances to play some discs that may be less then perfectly made. Also DVD's can get fine scratches in the wrong place on a disc and players that are more sensitive to these fine scratches can all the sudden stop being able to read the discs.
You seem to automatically assume the "Disc" is bad when in fact it may well be your "player"! If the disc is indeed bad then it would not play in ANY player! The odds are more likely of a player going bad and not being able to play certain discs it used to, then having the disc go bad. The lasers on the player can go out of alignment or get dirty which gives the player less tolerances to play some discs that may be less then perfectly made. Also DVD's can get fine scratches in the wrong place on a disc and players that are more sensitive to these fine scratches can all the sudden stop being able to read the discs.
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Originally posted by Frank S
You seem to automatically assume the "Disc" is bad when in fact it may well be your "player"! If the disc is indeed bad then it would not play in ANY player!
You seem to automatically assume the "Disc" is bad when in fact it may well be your "player"! If the disc is indeed bad then it would not play in ANY player!
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I've been trying to convince some folks that sub-par DVD players are also responsible for poor VCD playback. While it is true that VCD picture quality is no where near DVD, on a player "tuned" to play VCDs (and not just as a happy coincidence), picture quality is on par with the best pre-recorded VHS tapes.
Although I've had it for 2 years, my Pioneer DV-434 DVD player is still going strong. VCD playback is outstanding. And despite reviews stating how poor the progressive scan feature is, I have found it to be quite acceptable.
Although I've had it for 2 years, my Pioneer DV-434 DVD player is still going strong. VCD playback is outstanding. And despite reviews stating how poor the progressive scan feature is, I have found it to be quite acceptable.
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Laserdisc is a format that was notorious for "laser rot". But if a disc was fine, it stayed fine, and lasted for years. My King Kong Criterion is coming up on being 25 years old!!!! (that's older than I am) and it plays like the day it was new. If a laserdisc can last this long then I am confident that a DVD will last at least that long too.
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I've been telling people forever that with dual layer discs this is what would happen. It just isnt smart to glue two layers together. Only bad things can happen.
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Couple of things here....
1) All DVDs, regardless of whether they're single-sided, double-sided, or double-layered, are made essentially the same way: two "platters" are bonded together. They physically differ from CDs in that respect.
Couple of things here....
1) All DVDs, regardless of whether they're single-sided, double-sided, or double-layered, are made essentially the same way: two "platters" are bonded together. They physically differ from CDs in that respect.
For these reasons, the bond between DVD-5 or DVD-10 substrates is much less likely to fail, but even if it does, it will be behind the reflective surface, and will not interefere with the operation of the disc. That is why there have never been any reported cases of "DVD rot" on single layered discs.
Originally posted by Josh-da-man
3) "Rot" isn't a bad term to use. It implies a gradual decompostion that occurs over time. Meaning, the DVD played fine when you got it, but quit playing months or years later. "Manufacturing defect that manifests over time" may be more politically correct, but rot is a good catchall term, and an apparent holdover from laserdisc days. It's also used to describe the degradation of recordable media. Can we stop having this discussion every time someone brings up "DVD rot?"
3) "Rot" isn't a bad term to use. It implies a gradual decompostion that occurs over time. Meaning, the DVD played fine when you got it, but quit playing months or years later. "Manufacturing defect that manifests over time" may be more politically correct, but rot is a good catchall term, and an apparent holdover from laserdisc days. It's also used to describe the degradation of recordable media. Can we stop having this discussion every time someone brings up "DVD rot?"
The point of all of this is that there is no systemic degradation occurring in DVDs. There is a percentage of discs that exhibit one or more signs of manufacturing defects, most of which are not readily apparent when a disc is initially manufactured. But, if a given disc does not contain one of these defects from day one, it will never develop them.
There are simply too many people wringing their hands, worrying that their entire collections are about to self-destruct, when no such possibility exists, and the use of the term "DVD rot" only exacerbates the problem.




