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Old 05-15-03, 02:57 PM
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Rocky & Bullwinkle: Season 1 coming 8/12!

http://www.dvdplanet.com/product_lis...495&format=DVD

Special Features:
16 page booklet
Never before seen Bullwinkle puppet
Vintage Rocky & Bullwinkle TV Spots
Sneak Peek at "Complete Season 2"

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This is great! Nearly all of my 60s classics will be on DVD! I just hope that they won't be cut for time like the VHS tapes that Disney put out in the early 90s!
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I might have outgrown it, but this is great news for kids of all ages!
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It's tempting.
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Outgrown it? You mean grown into it! You probably didn't get half of the jokes if you watched it as a kid.
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I agree Roto! I'm definitely getting it!
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When I saw this thread title, my jaw literally went . This news came out of nowhere. What great news on a day when I took the toughest final I've ever had.
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This news makes me very happy.
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Wonder if the "& Friends" includes Fractured Fairy Tales, Aesop's Fables, Dudley Do-Right, Mr. Peabody (& Sherman)???? Those were a hoot! Here's a cool link:

http://www.everwonder.com/david/bullwinkle/about.html

Cheers
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Who is putting this out? Could we be that much closer to Flintstones season sets than we previously thought?

Mark me down for a pre sale copy on this!
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I've really backed off buying TV stuff lately, what with all the hacks done to Family Guy and other issues, plus the fact that most anything I want to see is on TV all the time anyways. But this is something worth buying. I don't think I've ever seen a complete storyline on the show.
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calhoun07, Sony Music is releasing this.

On a side note, how many seasons were there? TV Tome lists 3 seasons, 28 episodes. Does that sound right?

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Wasn't there more than one R&B series? There was the Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, the Bullwinkle Show, and I believe another.

Or were they all just repackaging of the same content?

I guess I could IMDB it...

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Okay, Rocky & Bullwinkle ran from 1961-1973 - a full twelve years.

There was also a "Rocky & his Friends" show that started in 1959. I don't know if that's considered "canon" R&B or not.

The internet is an amazing place.

There's much info on this, but here's a good FAQ page:

http://members.shaw.ca/fffff/faq.html

There were 326 episodes aired. Holy Smokes!

However, these "episodes" weren't half-hour shows - they were the individual cartoons (sometimes in multiple parts).

Still, that's a LOT of R&B.

And if they're going to release season sets, it looks like there should be 14 of them.

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"uuhh, Hey Rocky, watch me pull a DVD out of my hat... Nothing up my sleeve!"
*RIIIPPP!!!*
"ROOWWRRGHGGGHH!!!"
Ooo, I gotta get a new hat!"

"And now, here's something we hope you'll really enjoy!"
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A long time ago.........

The girl I was dating (and is now my wife) had a CED player. (If you don't know what CED is...don't ask. You don't want to know.) She had some Rocky and Bullwinkle shows on CED that were great. What a hoot! Sometime later, Rocky and Bullwinkle came out on laser disc (my former format). I rushed out to buy two of them.

What a supreme disappointment! The laser disc releases were massively EDITED! Lots of material was deleted when we compared the laser discs to the CED copies.

I hope whoever is releasing these is a high-class act and puts out the complete shows!

Buyer beware!!!! If these are the edited down versions, this may not be the good news you think it is.
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I have hope however.....

These DVD releases are being released by Sony Music. The severely shortened laser discs came from Buena Vista Home Video (aka Disney).

They won't get my money unless they are the un-edited shows.
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Episode listing

There were five (5) seasons total

1959 – 1960
1960 – 1961
1961 – 1962
1962 – 1963
1963 – 1964

Rocky and His Friends, ABC, 1959-1961.
The Bullwinkle Show, NBC, 1961-1964.

Cast:
Bill Scott: Bullwinkle J. Moose, Fearless Leader, Gidney, Mr. Big
June Foray: Rocket J. Squirrel, Natasha Fatale
Paul Frees: Boris Badenov, Cloyd, Captain Peachfuzz
Bill Conrad: Narrator

326 three-and-a-half-minute episodes in 28 adventures:

1. Jet Fuel Formula (1-40)
2. Box Top Robbery (41-52)
3. Upsidaisium (53-88)
4. Metal-Munching Mice (89-104)
5. Greenpernt Oogle (105-116)
6. Rue Britannia (117-124)
7. Buried Treasure (125-138)
8. The Last Angry Moose (139-142)
9. Wailing Whale (143-156)
10. The Three Moosketeers (157-164)
11. Lazy Jay Ranch (165-182)
12. Missouri Mish Mash (183-208)
13. Topsy Turvy World (209-222)
14. Painting Theft (223-228)
15. The Guns of Abalone (229-232)
16. The Treasure of Monte Zoom (233-240)
17. Goof Gas Attack (241-248)
18. Banana Formula (249-260)
19. Bumbling Brothers Circus (301-310)*
20. Mucho Loma (311-316)
21. Pottsylvania Creeper (317-322)
22. Moosylvania (323-326)
23. The Ruby Yacht (327-332)
24. Bullwinkle's Testimonial Dinner (333-338)
25. The Weather Lady (339-344)
26. Louse on 92nd Street (345-350)
27. Wossamotta U. (351-362)
28. Moosylvania Saved (363-366)

*The numbering scheme was changed for the fifth season; there were no episodes 261-300.

How can you tell if the DVDs are edited? Oh it’s so easy.

On the Disney laser disc release of adventure 17 (Goof Gas Attack), 8 episodes were reduced to 5 episodes by presenting episode 241, then combining 242 with 243, 244 with 245, and 246 with 247 before finishing up with 248. When combining episodes, Disney cut the lead-in and lead-out jokes that opened and closed each episode (the hilarious double titles for the next episode are missing at the end of 242, 244, and 246). Since episodes are combined, an episode break and it’s contents are cut --- lots of shorts like “Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!” are missing.

But there are two (2) big giveaways that will tell you immediately if the content has been altered by Disney.

1. When originally aired, Rocky would dive off the high board (as Bullwinkle runs back and forth with the water) before each episode. On the Disney edited versions, Rocky only dives at the beginning of the first episode of each adventure. Disney replaced Rocky’s dives with static title cards, redone music, and people impersonating the character voices saying “And now back to the adventure”.

2. The transition music coming out of the Rocky and Bullwinkle adventures and into the other cartoons (Dudly, AEsop, Peabody, or Fractured Fairy Tales) was replaced with a Disney version of the Rocky and Bullwinkle theme. It’s very noticeable and doesn’t fit.

Again….let’s hope for unedited content.
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And finally......more information concerning the other content of the show:

91 episodes of Fractured Fairy Tales (4.5 min each)
91 episodes of Peabody’s Improbable History (4.5 min each)
39 episodes of AEsop and Son (4.5 min each)
39 episodes of Dudley Do-Right of the Mounties (4.5 min each)
99 episodes of Bullwinkle’s Corner / Mr. Know-It-All / Bullwinkle and Rocky fan club (1.5 min each)
.........39 Bullwinkle’s Corner
.........50 Mr. Know-It-All
.........10 Bullwinkle and Rocky Fan Club
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This is wonderful news! I love Bullwinkle and his plucky pal Rocket J. Squirrel!!
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This may be the most informative and useful prerelease thread here
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And finally......more information concerning the other content of the show:

91 episodes of Fractured Fairy Tales (4.5 min each)
91 episodes of Peabody’s Improbable History (4.5 min each)
39 episodes of AEsop and Son (4.5 min each)
39 episodes of Dudley Do-Right of the Mounties (4.5 min each)
99 episodes of Bullwinkle’s Corner / Mr. Know-It-All / Bullwinkle and Rocky fan club (1.5 min each)
.........39 Bullwinkle’s Corner
.........50 Mr. Know-It-All
.........10 Bullwinkle and Rocky Fan Club
Lets keep our fingers crossed that this stuff is on the DVD,it would be ashame if it wasnt.
Were they on the laser disc ?
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Re: Episode listing

Originally posted by DiscGuy
There were five (5) seasons total

1959 – 1960
1960 – 1961
1961 – 1962
1962 – 1963
1963 – 1964

Rocky and His Friends, ABC, 1959-1961.
The Bullwinkle Show, NBC, 1961-1964.
What about the shows that aired from 1964-1973? All of the official listings say that the show aired on NBC until 1973.

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I'm going to need a second job just to be able to buy my August releases!

God, I can't wait.
I never realized they had been tampered with, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Re: Re: Episode listing

Originally posted by jough
What about the shows that aired from 1964-1973? All of the official listings say that the show aired on NBC until 1973.

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Jough -- The air-dates for original material was 1959 - 1964 (five seasons). At that point, no further new Rocky and Bullwinkle material was produced. Everything that aired after 1964 was made up of cartoons recycled from the two original series.

In 1961 when the show jumped from ABC to NBC, it was given a new name by NBC....but the content remained the same. "The Bullwinkle Show" continued in the same format as its predecessor, "Rocky and His Friends" albeit with one change: Dudley Do-Right of the Mounties was added to the series in 1961 after the switch to NBC.

Interestingly enough, ABC aired the "Dudley Do-Right Show" (ABC 1969-1970) eight years after the switch to NBC. The "Dudley Do-Right Show" was made up of the following recycled features:

Dudley Do-Right of the Mounties
Fractured Fairy Tales
Æsop and Son
Peabody's Improbable History
Bullwinkle's Corner/Mr. Know-It-All

Please note that "The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle" as well as "Bullwinkle and Rocky Fan Club" are missing from the list above. This show centered on Dudley Do-Right who had not yet appeared on ABC. Rocky was written out!

The Dudley Do-Right show followed on the heels of that one-season-wonder "George of the Jungle" (ABC 1967-1968). It is believed that after "George" ABC requested more Jay Ward material and the recycled Dudleys were prepared since they had not yet been aired on ABC.

Two further notes:

1. "George of the Jungle" featured episodes of Super Chicken and Tom Slick to fill out the show. (Just in case you forgot).

2. "The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle" laser disc #1129AS featured a butchered "Box Top Robbery" show on side 1 but a "Dudley Do-Right Show" on side 2. The Dudley Do-Right side was labeled "Canadian Gothic" and contained:

.....4 Dudley Do-Right episodes,
.....1 Æsop & Son
.....1 Bullwinkle's Corner
.....1 Fractured Fairy Tale
.....1 Peabody's Improbable History
.....1 Mr. Know-it-all

No Rocky! And this on a "Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle" disc.

Once again....I hope we get the "real" shows and not the butchered shows that Buena Vista Home Video released. I have my fingers crossed!
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