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Old 05-09-03, 04:22 PM
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TV Shows on DVD announces: Dick Van Dyke Season 1 in September

Up for Preorder at DVDempire.com
5/09/2003

This morning the folks at DVDEmpire.com have set up a listing for The Dick Van Dyke Show - Season 1. Unfortunately they are very thin on details at the moment, only indicating that this will be a multi-disc set available on September 2, 2003 for a list price of $59.99. Thanks to James Reader for the heads-up!

Paul Brownstein Productions has the following to say at their TVClassics.com website (a.k.a. DickVanDyke.com) about this set:

"THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW" on DVD! The full-length network version of the series has never been seen since its original CBS broadcast in the '60s. Digitally remastered from the 35mm negatives, with over 3 extra minutes in each episode you've never seen on cable, plus exclusive bonus footage! Season One Boxed Set will be released in September by Image Entertainment.

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Sweet! BTW, I had no idea what show this was about when I saw the title of the thread. I'm glad I opened it! BTW, here's the box art. Looks great!

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Had to come in here to see what DVD announces: DVD Season 1 meant
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Had to come in here to see what DVD announces: DVD Season 1 meant
ditto. This should look good right alongside many people's MTM season.
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Can it be a rule that in a DVD forum, we are not allowed to use that abbreviation to mean anything else?
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Can it be a rule that in a DVD forum, we are not allowed to use that abbreviation to mean anything else?
Yes, it's quite obvious he should have used the alternate "RVL Season 1" instead.
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Yes, it's quite obvious he should have used the alternate "RVL Season 1" instead.
Heh... the TV Guardian box which censors programs based on closed captioning replaces "Dick van Dyke" with "Jerk van Gay".
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Bad news: The release date has been pushed back to October 21.

Good news: Season 2 will be released the same day!

http://www.thewalnuttimes.com/dvd.htm

Check out the box art for season 2, at the bottom of the page. Bonus features include selected episode commentary, featurette, interviews and more.

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good news for DVD fans! and fans of classic TV shows.

let's hope it sells well so we see more sets released..
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This is definitely a series I'd love to have on DVD. All five seasons! As a side note, Season One is up for pre-order on Amazon, while Season Two is not. Speaking of Season Two, here's the box art:



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actually, I'm glad they pushed it back since the 2nd of sept. is a torcher on the wallet 3 box sets out that day for me!
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MORE INFORMATION ON THE
DVD on DVD 40th Anniversary Collection

Ottoman Collection information:

Many of you have written to express your wishes as to how you want this Collection to look. We're not surprised to discover that you ALL feel the same way about certain things and we're pleased to tell you that we agree with you. Write to us to give us your feedback and reserve your Collection.

When we began planning this Collection, we had already decided:

1. All episodes will be in numerical order, from 1(the DVD pilot) to 158 ("The Gunslinger"). The original air date, and the date the episode was filmed before a live audience will also be shown. The disks will be boxed by season, 5-6 episodes per disk depending on how much extra content we include.

You will be able to cross-reference the airdate with the episode number to help you with those trivia questions like "oh, darling, which DVD was on the night you proposed on 10/31/61?" (ANSWER "Oh How We Met The Night That We Danced" - Episode 6)

The specials will each be on its own disc:

The Color Special, "Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman (Mary Tyler Moore)", which aired on CBS April 13, 1969.

"The Dick Van Dyke Show Remembered" hosted by Charles Kuralt for CBS in 1995

and "Inside the Dick Van Dyke Show", produced by TVLAND for their Fandemonium Marathon in 2000

2. We are obsessed with quality so we are using the best possible Digital Masters made from the original 35mm film negaitves which have been kept safe in temperature-controlled vaults in Hollywood.

3. "Best of..." and "favorites..." may be released separately in the future, but that information will also be included on each disk in the numerical series, with commentary and other goodies as part of the DVD special material. We agree that the few episodes which were released in the past were not the best way to preserve the entire series. Besides, whose favorite is it anyway? Dick Van Dyke's, Carl Reiner's, or some executive in a video company? So by releasing all the episodes, you can also enjoy YOUR FAVORITES!

4. You will be able to purchase one disk, a boxed season, or the whole collection. For serious collectors, we will offer a limited edition consisting of all the disks, special material, and some personally autographed items, all encased in a "flip-top" ottoman, just like the one DVD trips over (most of the time!) in the opening credits.


ottoman shown in beautiful black & white.
actual ottoman may vary!
5. We intend to make the price of each disk and the collection reasonable. At this time, we're estimating a cost of $799 with easy monthly payment options available. For this price, you'll get all 158 episodes, the bonus disks, the special DVD Ottoman, and some additional collectibles. You will also be able to purchase the disks without the Ottoman in boxed sets, as well as individual disks, all at very reasonable prices.

6. No, we will NOT be colorizing this classic show! It will be preserved in living Black and White. Only the specials and any new material originally presented in color will be released in color.

7. You will also be able to download episodes online for a very reasonable fee.

8. For additional information on the ongoing delays with our Collection, please click here.

http://www.dvdondvd.com/collection.htm

Greetings, everyone, here's the truth from me, Doug Denoff, owner of www.dickvandykeshow.com and son of Sam Denoff, co-producer and co-writer with Bill Persky of some of your favorite episodes, including Coast TO Coast Big Mouth, October Eve and the Christmas Special.

Your posts have just been brought to my attention by Steve at sitcomsonline.com and after reading all of them, I want you to have the facts. Then maybe we can all use our power to get The William Morris Agency to undo the mess they've caused.

For those of you unfamiliar with the nonsense of Hollywood, The William Morris Agency represents Calvada Productions which of course owns the DVD Show. Calvada was formed by Carl Reiner, Dick Van Dyke, Sheldon Leonard and Danny Thomas.

The Agency also represented my dad and Bill Persky for many years.

I created the website in 1997 originally out of love for the joyous experience of growing up with the DVD show in my house. As you may know, Good Times entertainment released about 30 episodes on VHS in 1995 but this was pre-Internet and they didn't sell at all. I originally wanted to release the 1968 color CBS Special "Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman" because 1) it's a wonderful special which never re-ran, and 2) I had a small part in it!

In 1999 I contacted WMA and they told me that a "gentleman" named Paul Brownstein had been given the right to try to sell the special on behalf of Calvada, but it was hard to sell because so many famous songs were used in it that the music royalties would make it unprofitable. for many months I chatted repeatedly with Paul about my idea and he kept telling me it was pointless.

I also came to know Dave Van Deusen at The Walnut Times. He's a good friend now and encouraged my ideas and projects.

In October 2000, I realized that October 3, 2001 would be the 40th anniversary of the show. I spoke with my Dad and we agreed that it made sense to release all 158 episodes on the anniversary on DVD which had never been done; hence www.dvdondvd.com ! I formed a corporation called DVDonDVD.com to produce the project.

I dicussed it with Mr. Brownstein who continually said it would be a very tough sale (now you KNOW he's no expert on public taste). So I called WMA and arranged a meeting with the lead agent for Calvada. My Dad and I went in with a full presentation, research, and copies of many of your letters from the dvdondvd website. The agent agreed that the idea was wonderful. We proposed licensing the rights in exchange for a very favorable profit sharing with Calvada. They would put up zero money. I would pay for the manufacturing of the DVD's out of my own pocket. I had spoken with La-z-boy about manufacturing the ottoman for the special edition. I spoke with the Smithsonian Institution about staging a special event on October 3, 2001 to celebrate the anniversary and place some of the memorabilia in the Smithsonian alongside Fonzie's leather jacket and other TV icons.

We began negotiating a contract. WMA suggested that we keep Brownstein on our team to handle the many administrative and royalty issues and he agreed to become a participant as a part of MY company. But he continued to downplay the entire idea - suggesting we'd only sell a few hundred complete sets.

We began researching additional material and I found bloopers and other material never before seen (although Mr. Reiner later asked that we not use bloopers because he wants the world to only see rob and laura in character - we would of course respect his wishes). I also spoke with many of the show's participants, including director John Rich, about contributing to the project.

The final step was to get the blessing of Mr. Van Dyke's personal agent. Dad and I met with him, gave him the presentation.

Meanwhile, in March 2001, behind my back, Brownstein talked to Image Entertainment and got them to bid on buying the rights from Calvada. He represented to me and WMA that 'WE' were receiving the bid, meaning it was on behalf of my project. But when he sent me the bid, it was addressed to Paul Brownstein Productions, not Calvada or DVDonDVD, Inc. I was furious since he did not approach them on behalf of ME or what I thought was 'OUR' project. Paul claimed that Image was just an alternative for US to hire to do the actual manufacturing - not a competitor. By the way, if you visit image-entertainment's website, you'll see that they are hardly the right fit for the DVD show with all the soft-core junk they release.

Anyway, Dick's agent refused to make a decision for many months. Brownstein and I spoke several times a week and he constantly played as if he was on the team, and I constantly talked to Calvada's agent at WMA. She commisserated with me but said she could'nt get the blessing from Dick's Agent.

Then of course came 9-11 and everything went on hold for a while.

In mid-november, with WMA having already blown the 40th anniversary, my mother became very ill. Three days before she died on November 26, 2001, Brownstein came over to have lunch with me at the deli by Cedars Sinai Hospital in LA, to tell me that Dick's Agent had decided to make a deal with Image. He claimed to have nothing to do with it (do YOU believe him?) and that he would not be financially involved, but that they had preserved my right to release the 'Ottoman Collection"

Of course I was furious but days later had to face the death of my mother (my dad's first wife).

Then we started to see press from Brownstein how HE was releasing the show on DVD. Then Mary Tyler Moore's wonderful retrospective show had amazing ratings and the world craved 'comfort TV' in the wake of 911. Now I was ready for a fight.

I called the WMA Agent in charge of Calvada and requested a meeeting. We finally met in August and I told her that both WMA and Brownstein had outright stolen the project from my father and me and that if they didn't come up with a solution, I'd take legal action. Of course this is contrary to my original intent to nurture and support the release of the show, but I was not going to stand by and see Brownstein make money off of my idea.

At the meeting WMA basically agreed that they had mis-handled the entire situation, that they had never told Dick Van Dyke OR Carl Reiner about our proposal (but my Father had) and proposed a solution which I found acceptable, but now THAT hasn't happened either. They claim that Dick's agent chose the Image proposal over ours, yet Brownstein claims that HE is doing the release. Brownstein has made the Time-Life deal without my involvement.

WMA has promised that we will still be able to release the Ottoman Collector's edition, but unless I can get WMA to change their tune, it's going to have to wait until these other things take their course. In the meantime, if you purchase the Time-Life set through this website by clicking on the link (available after 12/18/2002) dickvandykeshow.com will earn a 10% affiliate fee from Time-Life which will be used to ensure the quality of the Ottoman Collection.

Dontcha just love Hollywood?

Dad and I met with an Entertainment Law Firm who agrees that our rights were violated by WMA and Brownstein. In one last effort to keep things out of court, dad put in a call to Carl Reiner on Wednesday. As we suspected, (and as WMA admitted), Carl was completely unaware of our situation. He agreed to call WMA, but we are poised to allow the lawyer to proceed to protect our rights and the project.

UPDATE AS OF April 8, 2003

Carl called Dad and told him that he was going to tell WMA to make things right with us. We hope to resolve things soon.

UPDATE AS OF May 4, 2003

WMA offered us a settlement which is hardly worth discussing, (and not consistent with their offer of settlement 6 months ago) but without knowing all the facts of what's going on we can't evaluate it, so we're requested all the information on their dealings with Brownstein, Image Entertainment, Time-Life any any other involved parties.

Brownstein is still claiming publicly that his company s releasing the DVD's, which is not consistent with WMA's claim that the choice was between my original offer and that of Image Entertainment.

Please feel free to email me at [email protected]. I hope you will support my original goals and look forward to bringing you the product as originally intended

http://www.dvdondvd.com/afinemess.html
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I've had my heart set on the ottoman. That'd be so sweet. All the legal wrangling is saddening. And the "Inside TV Land" look at the show would be key to any collection.
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I've had my heart set on the ottoman. That'd be so sweet. All the legal wrangling is saddening. And the "Inside TV Land" look at the show would be key to any collection.
Yeah I have been wanting that ottoman for so friggin long, but I am giving up. Plus I just cannot justify the estimated cost of that particular set.
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I myself would be willing to pay even more for the highly-rewatchable DVD sets of "The Dick Van Dyke Show", but does anyone agree with me that these $52.49 and $55.99 take-home prices for just one season are too high?? (I noticed both sites hiked up the price by $8 yesterday when Image raised the MSRP even higher, to $69.99 per season.)

It's obviously better than the ludicrously-high-priced $799.00 "Ottoman" set (that I guess will be available sometime in 2004, once all 5 season sets are on the market), but the $50-plus price tag is no doubt going to turn many people off these sets...just like the MTM set, when many people evidently considered its approx. $40 street price much too high!

Do you think those same people will now spend MORE money to pick up the Van Dyke DVD sets?? I would tend to doubt it.

However, as I stated, this show, and the MTM Show, are definitely worth these sums! (But a lower MSRP would be even more desirable. )

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I have never been interested in buying any tv series seasons but I just may have to get these. The Dick Van Dyke Show is seriously the funniest show I have ever seen on TV.
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I don't think $52.49 or $55.99 is bad considering it is for one season. We see that Paramount sells the Star Trek season sets for way more.

I agree I wouldn't buy the $799.00 set though...(unless I had lots of free money which I don't).

I probably buy the first two seasons. My budget will be shot for September though. Thank goodness The Two Towers is coming out in August!!
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Man, I've loved this show for so long I certainly can't wait to buy these. I hope as well that this creates more awareness for Mary Tyler Moore so that there may possibly be a bigger demand for Season 2 of the MTMS. Cuz we need that
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I don't think $52.49 or $55.99 is bad considering it is for one season. We see that Paramount sells the Star Trek season sets for way more.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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We see that Paramount sells the Star Trek season sets for way more.
True. But remember those S.Trek sets contain probably about twice the programming than either the MTM or D.VanDyke sets, because Trek is an hour-long show. So Treks are bound to be higher for full-season compilations.
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I agree I wouldn't buy the $799.00 set though
Folks pay much more for fullsize memrobillia reproductions all the time.
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True. But remember those S.Trek sets contain probably about twice the programming than either the MTM or D.VanDyke sets, because Trek is an hour-long show. So Treks are bound to be higher for full-season compilations.
well 24 was only 69.99 at retail when it first came out.
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• Quoth Rypro 525 •<HR SIZE=1>well 24 was only 69.99 at retail when it first came out. <HR SIZE=1>


24 was priced to push product quickly in hopes of increasing viewership for Season 2 after the near embarassment that was Season 1's initial ratings. Each set is priced for a different set of reasons.

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"24" was only 69.99 at retail when it first came out.
But, once again (like Star Trek), "24" is an hour-long show. So, in general, those hour-long shows SHOULD cost twice the price of the 30-minute programs. Based strictly on # of minutes included, that is.

You're getting twice the programming on the "24" set vs. Dick Van Dyke, but I note where "24" is now MSRP'ed @ only $59.98, ten clams LESS than TDVDS, illustrating my point of V.Dyke being priced in the upper stratosphere for such 30-minute episode TV products.

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