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Halvie 04-04-03 05:23 PM

Criterion's Barzil OOP????
 
I thought I read somewhere that the Criterion edition of Brazil was out of print. I just saw it a BB yesterday so if it is I am going to go pick it up. THanks for the info... By the way anyone with this movie, what do you think of it???

Troy

msbailey 04-04-03 05:25 PM

Brazil OOP?
 
It's not out of print and it's widely available.

caiman 04-04-03 05:33 PM

Isn't Barzil the stuff you put in soup.

Walter Neff 04-04-03 06:31 PM

I know it's been said about a million times before in these forums, but I'll say it once again:

http://www.criterionco.com

If the Web site says it's out of print, it's out of print. If the Web site doesn't say it's out of print, it's (drum roll please)... not out of print.

MurraySiskind 04-04-03 07:40 PM

It just seems like it's OOP b/c people are paying exorbitant prices for this set on Ebay. It seems to regularly go for around $50 there even though you can get it at DDD for just over $40. But then, people are stupid.

Breakfast with Girls 04-04-03 07:54 PM

:lol: Barzil

MrBob 04-04-03 08:21 PM

Have you not seen it yet? If not you might want to rent it first before shelling out 50+ for it. I rented it due to all of the high praise and was left underwhelmed.

DarthMaul420 04-04-03 11:02 PM

My 2 cents: Although I'm not sure if It will be another 3 disc set, Criterion is rumored to include Brazil in it's series of do-overs(aka Seven S.) within the next year or so ....

Deckard-10 04-05-03 09:13 PM


Originally posted by DarthMaul420
Criterion is rumored to include Brazil in it's series of do-overs(aka Seven S.) within the next year or so ....
Really? Where did you hear/read about this? The only thing I can see them adding would be a new anamorphic transfer.

yojimbo1 04-05-03 09:44 PM

I have trouble believing that they would do over Brazil

DarthMaul420 04-05-03 09:56 PM


Originally posted by Deckard-10
Really? Where did you hear/read about this? The only thing I can see them adding would be a new anamorphic transfer.
Can't say where I heard it. :)

Word is that Criterion is looking at a number of do-overs just for the lack of anamorphic or not up to par transfers. We'll see.

ScottReynolds 04-06-03 01:41 AM

I've read that rumor here too... and as some one who a couple of the movies that have been mentioned (Seven Samurai, Brazil)...

I view a double dip on $30+ dollar dvds in a pretty negative light. As I have heard many people here say, one reason they buy Criterion (besides the quality of the films, or the fact they are exclusive to the Collection) is the expectancy of customer service.

Any chance the people who have started these rumors have mentioned them thinking about letting owners mail in their old disks for the new transfers? (Esp in the case of only anamorphic upgrades).

DarthMaul420 04-06-03 03:46 AM


Originally posted by ScottReynolds
I've read that rumor here too... and as some one who a couple of the movies that have been mentioned (Seven Samurai, Brazil)...

I view a double dip on $30+ dollar dvds in a pretty negative light. As I have heard many people here say, one reason they buy Criterion (besides the quality of the films, or the fact they are exclusive to the Collection) is the expectancy of customer service.

Any chance the people who have started these rumors have mentioned them thinking about letting owners mail in their old disks for the new transfers? (Esp in the case of only anamorphic upgrades).

Brazil maybe, but I don't think Seven Samurai is a double dip at all. I have also heard they are looking at re-doing Armageddon as well. However, I have seen rumors posted over on the Criterion forum that Armageddon may go OOP sooner or later. That being said SS is the only official release I mentioned planned.

I agree with you on the topic of trade ups. I wish every company would give you some kind of credit for re-buying the same titles.

Also keep this in mind, Criterion wants to make money. SS and Armageddon are two of their biggest sellers. I'm sure they want to take advantage of that.

RKillgore 04-06-03 11:19 AM


Originally posted by MurraySiskind
It just seems like it's OOP b/c people are paying exorbitant prices for this set on Ebay.
By that indication, wouldn't it seem that almost everything is going out of print? Most DVDs I look for, people are paying way over online prices, plus a big shipping fee on top of that.

But then, people are stupid.
Ah, that explains it.

pagos77 04-06-03 05:57 PM


Originally posted by MrBob
Have you not seen it yet? If not you might want to rent it first before shelling out 50+ for it. I rented it due to all of the high praise and was left underwhelmed.
I second this...I actually bought it and then sold it due to my dislike of the movie, I dont know what it is, but I had no interest in it, tried to like it but no good. I think the movie wouldnt have received half the praise as it has if it wasnt for the highly documented row over the editing between Gilliam and the studio.

jblackie 04-07-03 02:57 PM


Originally posted by MrBob
Have you not seen it yet? If not you might want to rent it first before shelling out 50+ for it. I rented it due to all of the high praise and was left underwhelmed.
Underwhelmed? :hscratch:

I for one, was whelmed when I first saw it on the big screen-- OVER whelmed when I got the Criterion set, with the extras, the "Love conquers All" version, the interviews, the documentary....

Gee, was it the film itself? The topics and the very theme of privacy in the face of terrorism couldn't be more on the mark than today!

In My Humble Opinion, of course.

EricBill 04-07-03 03:10 PM

My Thoughts On BRAZIL & Criterion's Dvd
 
I'm not gonna knock anyone's opinion (we are all entitled to one - no matter how wrong), but I consider Gilliam's BRAZIL to be one of the finest films ever committed to celluloid. There are just some folks that seem immune to the story's "universal" themes (pun intended), or are just too upset by what they perceive as a "downbeat" ending.

In regards to the prospect of Criterion "remastering" BRAZIL, I'd say I'm ALL FOR IT! Bear in mind that BRAZIL was one of Criterion's earliest entries to the dvd market, and even the mighty Criterion made a few mistakes early on. Let's also not forget that dvd technology has grown by leaps and bounds since BRAZIL was released to dvd; AND the transfer was merely a port from the already legendary laserdisc. Any of you who know anything about dvd authoring know that direct laserdisc ports to dvd are among the WEAKEST of all dvds. I, for one, would LOVE to see BRAZIL upgraded (I've always thought that the Criterion transfer was a bit soft anyway) - but that's just me!

Eric

MrBob 04-07-03 05:14 PM

"Gee, was it the film itself? The topics and the very theme of privacy in the face of terrorism couldn't be more on the mark than today!"

Yes it was the film itself. The topic is cool, I've read 1984 several times and it was part of the reason I was really hyped to buy this film. Also I like things that poke fun at mindless beauracrecy. Hell I almost bought the CC set many a time with out seeing it. Luckly I got wise and rented it first. Needless to say I was let down big time. I'm not going to debate parts of the movie because it has been over a year since i've seen it. I'll say this I liked parts of it, liked the dark ending, but over all the movie just bored me.

Same with the other "great" SF Movie of the 80's Blade Runner, I get what the heck it about, and questions it rasies. But it still doesn't change the fact that the movie is boring as hell.

Oleg 04-07-03 11:40 PM

MrBob, out of curiosity... what would you consider a good SF movie? I am asking since it is difficult for me to place Blade Runner and Brazil into the same category. Incidentally, I went to see Brazil in the theater with two other people. Neither one of them liked it, I thought (and still think) it is one of the best films ever made. Somehow it just resonated with me and started me on a Gilliam kick.

llzackll 04-08-03 12:22 AM


Originally posted by MurraySiskind
It just seems like it's OOP b/c people are paying exorbitant prices for this set on Ebay. It seems to regularly go for around $50 there even though you can get it at DDD for just over $40. But then, people are stupid.
MSRP is $59.95. Don't worry, a lot of things on eBay are going for almost full MSRP lately. Hard to find deals on anything that more than 3 people want.

DarthMaul420 04-08-03 12:56 AM


Originally posted by llzackll
MSRP is $59.95. Don't worry, a lot of things on eBay are going for almost full MSRP lately. Hard to find deals on anything that more than 3 people want.
Very True. Some single titles are going for above msrp used. Take the 40 Star Trek original series dvds. Most full sets are going on Ebay for 600-650 used. Or you can buy them from DDD.com brand new for under 600!

Bigger collections (500+) are not selling for much at all. I guess not to many people gettng into dvd right now.

jblackie 04-08-03 08:37 AM


Originally posted by MrBob
"Gee, was it the film itself? The topics and the very theme of privacy in the face of terrorism couldn't be more on the mark than today!"

Yes it was the film itself. ...

Same with the other "great" SF Movie of the 80's Blade Runner, I get what the heck it about, and questions it rasies. But it still doesn't change the fact that the movie is boring as hell.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You picked out 2 of my favorites, tho! I wonder if you liked 12 monkeys?

Hell, if EVERYBODY liked the same movie, we'd all still be standing in line to get into the theater! ;)

TREX1993 04-08-03 10:08 AM

DVD Planet has it on sale now for $38.97. I had a five dollar online coupon and picked it up for under $36.50 total...not bad for a $60 MSRP!


And yes, my 2 cents worth says it was/is definitely worth it.

NickAdonidus 04-08-03 03:21 PM

Re: My Thoughts On BRAZIL & Criterion's Dvd
 

Originally posted by EricBill
I'm not gonna knock anyone's opinion (we are all entitled to one - no matter how wrong), but I consider Gilliam's BRAZIL to be one of the finest films ever committed to celluloid.

Eric

I have to agree... Brazil IS quite possibly the best movie ever made... and so much of the pokes at "todays" society , whether then or now... still ring soooo true...
I wish I could put into words just how acurate this movie is.
DAMN... what a GREAT MOVIE...

And you guys got me so excited... bastards... i thought my copy was suddenly going to sky rocket in value when I read the title to this thread. :D

TomOpus 04-08-03 05:36 PM


Originally posted by TREX1993
DVD Planet has it on sale now for $38.97. I had a five dollar online coupon and picked it up for under $36.50 total...not bad for a $60 MSRP!


And yes, my 2 cents worth says it was/is definitely worth it.

This is one of those movies I've been meaning to get. Kept putting it off... and putting it off. Last Sunday I was at the DVDPlanet store and decided to pick it up, along with a couple other Criterions. Now I have one I can call my own :)


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