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Old 09-20-18, 09:54 PM   #1
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Terrifier (2017)



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Old 10-07-18, 08:12 PM   #2
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I really don't know how I feel about horror villains with guns. It just kind of takes away the thrill and scare of it for me. Still not sure how I feel about this movie...
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Sometimes Terrifier struck me as showing promise like with the news reporter (which didn't make much sense) or the start of the pizza parlor but other times it's stupid and unintentionally cringe worthy (like when Art is cuddled with the strange homeless woman soothing him with 'have you ever known a mother's touch'). Why does skinning victims and wearing their skin feel cliche rather than shocking? Every time I see it I think, oh they're trying to be like Leatherface.

The ending wraparound was a nice touch.
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I really don't know how I feel about horror villains with guns. It just kind of takes away the thrill and scare of it for me. Still not sure how I feel about this movie...
I agree. With Terrifier it felt almost kind of tame despite the gore; there are scarier clown villains (i.e. Pennywise, The Last Circus isn't horror but is intense clowns done right) and not much to the premise. Most of the buildup seemed to be 'Art the Clown is so cool/scary/evil' without plot, more a series of short vignettes than a film itself. The format worked a bit better as an anthology film with All Hallows Eve, where it seemed more far out and envelope pushing. The silent clown gag was sometimes promising but one note and I felt it hurt the film by being so much more about Art than much of anything else - all the characters felt thin. More pathos please. I liked some of the violence but it needed a better hook and buildup.
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Old 10-16-18, 04:58 AM   #4
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Sadly, this felt more "torture porn" than "slasher" to me. While the fx were great, this still ended up being too mean-spirited for even MY tastes.

Apologies for those who need yet another cleanser after this. Damn, what a brutal challenge this must be for some of y'all!
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Sadly, this felt more "torture porn" than "slasher" to me. While the fx were great, this still ended up being too mean-spirited for even MY tastes.

Apologies for those who need yet another cleanser after this. Damn, what a brutal challenge this must be for some of y'all!
This is exactly how I felt about this one too. It was such a slog to get through, with very little actual scares IMO (I honestly thought the scene with the two girls in the diner with Art was the only time in the film I felt creeped out more than revolted by the torture-porniness of it all)
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Sometimes Terrifier struck me as showing promise like with the news reporter (which didn't make much sense) or the start of the pizza parlor but other times it's stupid and unintentionally cringe worthy (like when Art is cuddled with the strange homeless woman soothing him with 'have you ever known a mother's touch'). Why does skinning victims and wearing their skin feel cliche rather than shocking? Every time I see it I think, oh they're trying to be like Leatherface.

The ending wraparound was a nice touch.

I agree. With Terrifier it felt almost kind of tame despite the gore; there are scarier clown villains (i.e. Pennywise, The Last Circus isn't horror but is intense clowns done right) and not much to the premise. Most of the buildup seemed to be 'Art the Clown is so cool/scary/evil' without plot, more a series of short vignettes than a film itself. The format worked a bit better as an anthology film with All Hallows Eve, where it seemed more far out and envelope pushing. The silent clown gag was sometimes promising but one note and I felt it hurt the film by being so much more about Art than much of anything else - all the characters felt thin. More pathos please. I liked some of the violence but it needed a better hook and buildup.
Very much true. They tried way too hard with this film, it seemed like. Shocked it got such high reviews on Rotten Tomato. Might have to check out the anthology film just to see if the clown is a bit better and more scarier.
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I'm not usually afraid of clowns but this clown is freaking me out.

The brunette actress in this movie is so cute. I dated a girl that looks just like her last year. I hope nothing bad happens to her.
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I really like the look of this movie. It has that raw, gritty feeling you would see in grindhouse horror films shot on 16mm
It's a nice change of pace from the glossy look of most digitally shot horror films these days.

Points deducted for setting a scene in a pizza joint and not showcasing some delicious looking pizza that makes me hungry. I mean the guy just brought it out and they're immediately picking it at it with their fingers? Why isn't it piping hot?

I've never been kicked out of a place immeditely after using the bathroom but I have a friend with IBS who has.
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The guy playing Art is stealing the show. His facial expressions are priceless and his body language is very creepy. There's a sort of dark comedy to some of his pantomimes.

The sister here looks way too old to be in college.

Why not just get an Uber instead of waiting in the car for the clown to kill you?
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Only post 2008 recession does a scene of a pizza boy cleaning up shit instead of giving his boss the finger and walking out make sense. Times is tough.

There's an odd amount if chemistry being developed between the heroine and the pest control guy. Just use the bathroom and move on unless they're setting up the rat killer as the White Dick Hallorann.

This girl is scrolling through social media while listening to AM radio? Hold up, when is this movie supposed to be set? Put on Spotify, girl.
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The brunette actress in this movie is so cute. I hope nothing bad happens to her.
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Damn, what a brutal challenge this must be for some of y'all!
Likely the first and last time I attempt to complete the subset challenge.
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I think I echo many of the sentiments here, when I say that I really didn't care for this one. This clown sure was creepy, but I seem to be over the whole clown horror thing.

I had been dealing with car repairs Tuesday, so I plopped right down in the waiting room with my iPad, and I watched Terrifier. I think the smell of tires and diesel somehow heightened the experience, but I wouldn't recommend it. One of the office guys wandered over during the aftermath of the hacksaw scene, asking me if I was watching something good....

Torture porn sums it up for me. I was kind of surprised to see the 'heroine' killed off half way through, expecting her to hook up with the exterminator. Do you spray for rats? If you do, I don't think you want to be in the building while it happens.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this playing on cable, but it didn't keep my attention to warrant more than a minute. I'm curious if this had some editing, as I'm sure it would have completely gutted the movie.
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I liked this more than most, and I am firmly against torture porn. I can handle violence and gore if there's genuine artistry pushing the film forward, and I think that was the case here. However, I think the film made a major misstep by killing off the lead character halfway through the runtime. After that I struggled to remain invested. I didn't care about the sister or the exterminator, they weren't developed at all.

You can anchor the film with the villain if there's a sympathetic angle or a compelling characterization, as seen in films like Peeping Tom or Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. But that wasn't the case here. Art was terrifying and effective, but there was nothing in his characterization to help him carry a film.

It seemed like the director wanted to launch an iconic villain franchise in the vein of Jason or Freddy, which is fine; but watching The Terrifier was like if all of the Carnage of the first four Friday the 13th movies were condensed into one film. It came out too strong from the gate. I can appreciate the director wanted to buck certain trends but I think he should have stepped back and evaluate what made those franchises successful in the first place.

There was definitely a lot of promise here, though, and I think the filmmakers have potential. If you had a more traditional slasher narrative structure, this film would have been a total win. There wasn't enough substance to justify the nihilism, give me a good character I can root for throughout the entire runtime. I loved the first 45 minutes, but they lost me after killing off the only likable character.
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Hi, guys. Checking in from my trip. I watched this on Tuesday on my laptop in the car!

I agree with most of the posters. It felt like pure torture porn to me. The two female characters at the start were funny and cute and I could get into how terrifying and creepy the clown was when they saw him at the restaurant. But once the killing started, which was very early on, those two cool female characters died and then the rest of it just felt like same old same old gore fest.

Also, I'm so TIRED of some of the horror tropes. The one they did over and over here was: the victim gets the upper hand momentarily, gives the villain a little stab or bump on the head, then runs away. People, if a maniac like that were after me, I would SO MAKE SURE HE WAS DEAD. It drives me crazy when they don't bother to even try to kill the guy. Granted, this villain ended up being supernatural and unkillable, I guess, but they didn't know that.

I did think the clown was super scary and I liked bringing in all the clown tropes like the bike and horn, but ultimately this movie just feels incredibly mean spirited and, well, like torture porn.
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Hi, guys. Checking in from my trip. I watched this on Tuesday on my laptop in the car!

I agree with most of the posters. It felt like pure torture porn to me. The two female characters at the start were funny and cute and I could get into how terrifying and creepy the clown was when they saw him at the restaurant. But once the killing started, which was very early on, those two cool female characters died and then the rest of it just felt like same old same old gore fest.

Also, I'm so TIRED of some of the horror tropes. The one they did over and over here was: the victim gets the upper hand momentarily, gives the villain a little stab or bump on the head, then runs away. People, if a maniac like that were after me, I would SO MAKE SURE HE WAS DEAD. It drives me crazy when they don't bother to even try to kill the guy. Granted, this villain ended up being supernatural and unkillable, I guess, but they didn't know that.

I did think the clown was super scary and I liked bringing in all the clown tropes like the bike and horn, but ultimately this movie just feels incredibly mean spirited and, well, like torture porn.
I was screaming at my screen about that continual cycle of “injure bad guy and have upper hand, drop weapon and run away”. One scene she literally got a great knife into the back on him, he was down and unmoving for like 30 seconds, she leaves the weapon there, runs into the next room, and starts looking for a weapon. Wtf!? You just had a weapon! And him vulnerable! Ugh.
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I liked this more than most, and I am firmly against torture porn. I can handle violence and gore if there's genuine artistry pushing the film forward, and I think that was the case here. However, I think the film made a major misstep by killing off the lead character halfway through the runtime. After that I struggled to remain invested. I didn't care about the sister or the exterminator, they weren't developed at all.

You can anchor the film with the villain if there's a sympathetic angle or a compelling characterization, as seen in films like Peeping Tom or Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. But that wasn't the case here. Art was terrifying and effective, but there was nothing in his characterization to help him carry a film.

It seemed like the director wanted to launch an iconic villain franchise in the vein of Jason or Freddy, which is fine; but watching The Terrifier was like if all of the Carnage of the first four Friday the 13th movies were condensed into one film. It came out too strong from the gate. I can appreciate the director wanted to buck certain trends but I think he should have stepped back and evaluate what made those franchises successful in the first place.

There was definitely a lot of promise here, though, and I think the filmmakers have potential. If you had a more traditional slasher narrative structure, this film would have been a total win. There wasn't enough substance to justify the nihilism, give me a good character I can root for throughout the entire runtime. I loved the first 45 minutes, but they lost me after killing off the only likable character.
You summed up much of my thoughts. The film really lost a lot of momentum when the lead was killed. The killer was amusing, but I never really got what he was supposed to be. I guess some sort of supernatural entity.

The beginning of the movie was really the strength. The restaurant scene was definitely a highlight for me. It was so creepy and uncomfortable. It tapped into something that felt more real.

I don't understand the torture porn label. This didn't feel like that to me. It was definitely violent and very gory, but I just didn't see it as torture porn. But that term has been thrown around so many times by so many people about so many different movies that it has really lost all meaning to me.

I liked this film enough to at least be interested in seeing the killer's earlier movie. I'm not sure if I'll get to it this month, though.
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I was screaming at my screen about that continual cycle of “injure bad guy and have upper hand, drop weapon and run away”. One scene she literally got a great knife into the back on him, he was down and unmoving for like 30 seconds, she leaves the weapon there, runs into the next room, and starts looking for a weapon. Wtf!? You just had a weapon! And him vulnerable! Ugh.
Exactly. And she leaves HIM the good weapon. This sort of illogical behavior kills a film for me. There's just no excuse why the screenplay/hero can't be more clever than that.
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