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Old 09-23-13, 01:40 AM
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"John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19





John Dies at the End (2012)



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Old 10-14-13, 10:34 AM
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Re: "John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19

I love [email protected], it's an oddball film but the humor is done so effectively filled with irony that it works. I love the meat monster and the intro segment philosphy question about the axe. Hopefully we seem more far-out but effective stuff like this come through, they don't seem to make gutsy films like [email protected] very frequently. I like to think of [email protected], with it's intelligence and suspense as the anti-Killer Tongue.

The Korrak segments really has a nice H.P. Lovecraft vibe but the Marconie character seems mysteriously under-developed making me suspect he is John from a future time.

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Old 10-14-13, 11:15 AM
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Re: "John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19

This is a really entertaining flick, I'm looking forward to rewatching it during the theme night. Great pick, Chad!
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Re: "John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19

Originally Posted by Undeadcow View Post
The Korrak segments really has a nice H.P. Lovecraft vibe but the Marconie character seems mysteriously under-developed making me suspect he is John from a future time.
You should read the book (and I have to read the sequel). The movie only covers about 20% of what happens in the book (though I was impressed they even managed that 20%). Marconi's role and story is much bigger.
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I really enjoyed this. I felt the first third was brilliant but the last third got a little tedious. Still a great movie though. Very bold and fresh. The playing on the normal conventions reminded me of Feast and Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil. I really enjoyed the humor and the effects were good.

I would love to see them do a sequel and continue on with their wild adventures. But someone please explain the title for me.

My rating: **** out of *****
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I definitely liked this one, a dark horror comedy.
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Originally Posted by Spiderbite View Post
But someone please explain the title for me.
Well, that's the title of the book it was based on. And in the book ...

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well, John doesn't die at the end of that one either Though it's an ongoing series, so John may die yet!
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Old 10-18-13, 01:52 PM
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Well, that's the title of the book it was based on. And in the book ...

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well, John doesn't die at the end of that one either Though it's an ongoing series, so John may die yet!
Thanks. I thought I was missing some major plot point or something.
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Old 10-18-13, 04:06 PM
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The title works well as a joke. You keep waiting for John's big death. And it never comes
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Old 10-18-13, 04:23 PM
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The title works well as a joke. You keep waiting for John's big death. And it never comes
Kinda like Let's Scare Jessica To Death!
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Old 10-19-13, 02:07 PM
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Out of all the cool stuff going on in the movie, my favorite part was seeing Angus Scrimm again.
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Properly weird in a good way. I enjoyed it thoroughly!

Not entirely sure I got half (or "most") of it, but I enjoyed it a lot.
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Properly weird in a good way. I enjoyed it thoroughly!

Not entirely sure I got half (or "most") of it, but I enjoyed it a lot.
Pretty much the same for me.

Coscarelli sure loves his overgrown insects, doesn't he?
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Re: "John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19

Glad to see this getting positive reaction so far; honestly expected a slew of 'what the hell just happened' posts. It took me 2 viewings and reading the novel to get it.

Originally Posted by brainee View Post
You should read the book (and I have to read the sequel). The movie only covers about 20% of what happens in the book (though I was impressed they even managed that 20%). Marconi's role and story is much bigger.
Despite the budgetary constraints, I think Coscarelli pulled off what was used swimmingly. I only have one complaint and that's the exclusion of
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Originally Posted by Spiderbite View Post
I would love to see them do a sequel and continue on with their wild adventures.
In the commentary there's mention of a possible sequel, at least the 2 lead actors said they'd love to do another one. Personally I'd prefer to see one based on the second book, which is just as good if not better than JDATE (heh). And how could you possibly pass up the opportunity to call it "This Movie Has Spiders"?
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Absolutely loved it. Tempted to keep the theme night going but am afraid of clunkers in that subgenre, so I'll just watch some TV I think.
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Loved the film. It was my third viewing, first being stoned and didn't know what was going on. But when I saw it sober, loved it. One of the better independent films out there currently and it is a nice, fresh take on the genre. Would love for them to do a sequel and I really do have to pick up the book.
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Glad to see this getting positive reaction so far; honestly expected a slew of 'what the hell just happened' posts. It took me 2 viewings and reading the novel to get it.
"What the hell just happened?" was my response too. I didn't get most of it, I'm sure, but it was fun to watch. And I"ll certainly look forward to rewatching it next year.
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Loved it. It's a definite highlight of the challenge for me. I've had the book for a while, but I just haven't found the time to read it yet. I really appreciate films that dare to be different yet respect the audience's intelligence (I'm looking straight at you, Killer Tongue).

I continued last night's theme by watching Killer Klowns from Outer Space. I really thought that I was gonna hate it, but I ended up enjoying it quite a bit. I think Psychotronic Day has been my favorite theme day of the Challenge so far. Too bad that I wasn't up for another after Klowns, because I had Rubber on tap to finish out the night.
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Now that it doesn't matter as much, this seems like a good place to really ask again: "what is "Psychotronic"..?"

I went hunting for a definition, and came up with it having been coined based on a particular movie for the purposes of writing a now-out-of-print book and it's out-of-print sequel...

The book purportedly covers "overlooked" or under appreciated films and/or genres, so under some definitions I read, all horror films count by virtue of being in an under-loved genre...

Elsewhere, the argument is made that it's films that didn't get much of a wide release - which that webpage said DID include all the not-really-over-looked-or-underappreciated-or-weird films that nevertheless had a limited release (including, I think it argued, the re-releases of Star Wars and all foreign films)...

I took it to broadly mean "odd". But I'd love a better definition or some kind of pointers, particularly now that I'd like a way of finding more surreal-ish oddities like this one.
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Now that it doesn't matter as much, this seems like a good place to really ask again: "what is "Psychotronic"..?"

I went hunting for a definition, and came up with it having been coined based on a particular movie for the purposes of writing a now-out-of-print book and it's out-of-print sequel...

The book purportedly covers "overlooked" or under appreciated films and/or genres, so under some definitions I read, all horror films count by virtue of being in an under-loved genre...

Elsewhere, the argument is made that it's films that didn't get much of a wide release - which that webpage said DID include all the not-really-over-looked-or-underappreciated-or-weird films that nevertheless had a limited release (including, I think it argued, the re-releases of Star Wars and all foreign films)...

I took it to broadly mean "odd". But I'd love a better definition or some kind of pointers, particularly now that I'd like a way of finding more surreal-ish oddities like this one.
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Commentary, criticism or answer...?!
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Commentary, criticism or answer...?!
My reaction while trying to comprehend your post in a state of intoxication.
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Re: "John Dies at the End" Reviews/Discussion - 2013 Horror Challenge: Day 19

This movie has been one of the standouts for me this year. I really liked it, and I don't think I had any problems understanding, though people posting that they didn't makes me wonder if I missed something. I'm sort of kicking myself for almost buying it on Blu-ray a couple of times but not pulling the trigger. I definitely need to pick this one up. I hope we get some sequels, too!
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