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Old 07-17-06 | 09:44 AM
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V For Vendetta

I just read the review for V For Vendetta . It does seem pretty light on extras for a 2-disc release, but if it really has the Portman SNL rap clip, then that makes it worth it by itself!
Old 07-17-06 | 11:41 AM
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Personally, I'm disappointed in the review. As stated, the reviewer stated bias against current administration and its politics. However the reviewer goes out of the way to compare many events or scenes in the movie to present day America/Iraq. This is a film based on a comic written in the 80's (I believe), and I believe is much closer to depicting Winston's world in 1984 and depicting Nazi Germany in 1938-1945. The visions of Big Brother, strong and always visible singler leader, almost complete media control, are all signatures of 1984 and Hitler.

I think reviewers who see the review might get the wrong idea about the film from the review. I think the coverage of the extras and performances was done well, but clearly the reviewer failed to review the film objectively and let the bias shine through.
Old 07-17-06 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GradVT06
This is a film based on a comic written in the 80's (I believe), and I believe is much closer to depicting Winston's world in 1984 and depicting Nazi Germany in 1938-1945. The visions of Big Brother, strong and always visible singler leader, almost complete media control, are all signatures of 1984 and Hitler.
I think we can all take our own personal views on the storyline, but going straight to the man himself: Alan Moore wrote it in the '80's as a reaction to Thatcher's Britain, which he believed "could be" heading towards a Big Brother/Nazi state.
Old 07-17-06 | 01:18 PM
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Personally, I'm disappointed in the review.
Sorry you feel that way.

As stated, the reviewer stated bias against current administration and its politics.
And I do that so you know how to take what I say. I like to think it makes my rants more transparent in their purpose.

However the reviewer goes out of the way to compare many events or scenes in the movie to present day America/Iraq. This is a film based on a comic written in the 80's (I believe), and I believe is much closer to depicting Winston's world in 1984 and depicting Nazi Germany in 1938-1945.
I did make the comparison, because the filmmakers made the film as a part of today's world. They are influenced by what they see around them, which is the Bush administration. I also note that Moore's work is prescient, as it foretold of a future government that's very similar to today's. I didn't say he based it on Bush, just predicted him. In his 1988 foreword to the first issue, he named Thatcher's government as the inspiration, but he was off by a few decades and an ocean.

I think the coverage of the extras and performances was done well
Thank you.

but
There's always a but.

clearly the reviewer failed to review the film objectively and let the bias shine through.
It's almost impossible to review something objectively, as you come to everything with your own experiences and prejudices. That's why I list my biases right up front. Wouldn't it be great if everyone in the media did the same?

Take my review for what it is: a few paragraphs describing a film, some opinion and a bit of critiquing. I'm not the final word in film, nor should any reviewer. Film is very personal, and you have to decide for yourself. I'm just giving you a bit of help in finding out more.

Thanks for reading.
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Fair enough. I guess we each just pulled different things out of the film and viewed it a little differently. And I do thank you for stating your biases ahead of time. I think my response came off a little harsher than I meant it to. Heck, I bought the SE of Napoleon Dynamite on a blind buy because of how popular it has been. While many people loved it, I thought it was the dumbest thing in the world wold pay someone to take if off my hands. As I said, I did think the review as a whole was good, we just viewed it through different lenses.
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Old 07-18-06 | 11:18 AM
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Dissapointing on the lack of worthy extras - waiting for the HDDVD anyways.

I see the film portraying a nazi-like government and nothing more.
Old 07-18-06 | 11:53 AM
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Dissapointing on the lack of worthy extras - waiting for the HDDVD anyways.

I see the film portraying a nazi-like government and nothing more.

I'd have hoped for more extras too, but since I'm not close to upgrading to HD yet this will have to do.
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would have loved a DTS track, damn WB
Old 08-16-06 | 02:21 AM
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I nearly didn't see this after reading the review, but decided that I should just like I watched Bowling for Columbine, etc. The review definately skewed my impression of what to expect. What I got was an amazing movie that speaks more to a tryranical government that what we have in reality.

The first place to look is at the dissent that is not allowed in the populace of the movie. If we have nothing in America, we have an amazing amount of dissent that is heard, and when there is no one that wants to listen to their rant, they yell so that we must hear it. I do not have any feeling that will go away in my lifetime or the next. Obviously it was important to get America out of the way for this movie to continue.

We all see our own boogie men, and what I saw was an attempt to cast it as the religious conservatives by using the methods of the liberals. In the parties, there is no stricter "stick to the party line" than that of the DNC. Want to talk about abortion? Not at our convention. The right does not have such restrictions. Want to back the other party's stance on Iraq and terrorism? We'll drop the incumbent for a new guy in a heartbeat. Need to hear the party line on tv? What percentage of the media is liberal by their own admission?

Like I said, we see our own boogiemen. The movie was about protecting freedom. I tend to see the liberal side of things as giving up freedom to appease others. Some call it white guilt. But it still amounts to thinking we should apologize for being America. I'm not a big fan of Bush, but I am a huge fan of freedom, and when I look at the two parties, it invariably seems that the more liberal side continually wants to take that away more than the more conservative, whether it be in property rights, overuse of the Environmental Protection Agency, restrictions on gun control, or even when the liberal government had rules about "equal time" in talk radio.

I tended to see this government as what happens when enough well meaning politicians that believe they know what is best for the stupid common folks get into power, and decide that for the good of those poor bastards, decide they need to keep it...for their own protection. Whether that means you start with 6,000 more votes than registered voters (in her heaviest district) that gets Washington State a govenor elected on the 3rd recount by a few hundred votes, or by saying that your own soldiers are killing people in cold blood, that is where I see it coming from. And while some will argue that religion is the problem, I will see a city worker who is forbidden to have a small Christmas tree on their desk and think, "that was the problem?" We tend to only want to restrict the freedoms of those activities we don't approve of....and it seems some are far more worried about a Christmas tree than the freedoms of the individual to peaceably excerise the expression of it.

But I have my biases as well.

Don't take this as a big knock on the review. I appreciate the time the DVDTalk reviewers take, and recognize that it is a tough job. to you.

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