DVD Talk review of 'Top Gun: Special Collector's Edition'
12-08-04, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chanster
Personally I thought the review was pretty hackneyed due to the incessant talking about the gay theme... not very informative really.
Tune in tomorrow, when chanster pooh-pooh's Jason Bovberg's "not very informative" review of The Ultimate Matrix Collection because he talks "incessantly" about its philosophical undertones... I mean, it's something that's been talked about for years. So hackneyed.
12-09-04, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DoogieHowser
Yeah, but your review is like telling someone that santa clause isn't climbing down the chimney just to leave gifts, that he is also gonna stop by moms room. Your review took something idealistic, and perverted it. Top Gun is about comradery, patriotism, fighting communism, and overcoming.
Think about your review for a second? What criteria did you use? A vollyball game? Two men that are friends? By that criteria, any movie where a guy takes off his shirt is gay porn? What would you say about Rocky or Platoon? Was Rocky a gay guy trying to find a way to express his affection to Apollo? Was Platoon about a bunch of guys who had to go oversea's to do what they could not here? The problem with your review is the criteria is flawed.
Think about your review for a second? What criteria did you use? A vollyball game? Two men that are friends? By that criteria, any movie where a guy takes off his shirt is gay porn? What would you say about Rocky or Platoon? Was Rocky a gay guy trying to find a way to express his affection to Apollo? Was Platoon about a bunch of guys who had to go oversea's to do what they could not here? The problem with your review is the criteria is flawed.
Have you never heard of subtext?
12-09-04, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
Of course, look how long it took us to get the whole "Village People" thingee. Boy we as a culture took it in the shorts on that one.
With this line, you became my top must-read reviewer at the site.
12-09-04, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
Just a thought... and bear in mind, I'm loving this entire conversation... that my review (or at least the MOVIE review section) is in no way structured to change anybody's mind about TOP GUN. I mean look, I gave the film 3 out of 5 stars, which is hardly a barbed criticism, and an overall REPLAY value of 3.5 stars. I recognized the film's nostalgic appeal, and took into account its reference quality soundtrack. After all, I gave the DVD a "Highly Recommended" rating, which is our second highest honor to bestow...
The way I see it, there's nothing I can write that's going to change anybody's mind on TOP GUN. That film will live on long after I'm downconverted to a worm buffet. All I can do is review the disc's technical merits (of which there are plenty) and offer up my own $0.02 as to why TOP GUN is the cinematic equivalent of amyl nitrate.
The way I see it, there's nothing I can write that's going to change anybody's mind on TOP GUN. That film will live on long after I'm downconverted to a worm buffet. All I can do is review the disc's technical merits (of which there are plenty) and offer up my own $0.02 as to why TOP GUN is the cinematic equivalent of amyl nitrate.
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12-09-04, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
With this line, you became my top must-read reviewer at the site.
Big Top Gun fan, that Jeff Schwartz. Not gay, though, although I'm sure his boyfriend would beg to differ.
12-11-04, 02:38 PM
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First of all, let me say that this thread is hilarious, I especially like the quote from Sleep With Me.
Secondly, this is a DVD review site, not a movie review site. If you want to read movie reviews, go on IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes. I think Matt did a good job at reviewing the DVD (video/audio quality, extras) and personally, I think that's all the matters. I've read DVD reviews for other films where I didn't agree with the movie review, but that didn't bother me, I can still enjoy the movie even if others didn't. There will always be people that disagree on any given subject, you just have to learn to tolerate it.
This was my 2 cents.
Secondly, this is a DVD review site, not a movie review site. If you want to read movie reviews, go on IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes. I think Matt did a good job at reviewing the DVD (video/audio quality, extras) and personally, I think that's all the matters. I've read DVD reviews for other films where I didn't agree with the movie review, but that didn't bother me, I can still enjoy the movie even if others didn't. There will always be people that disagree on any given subject, you just have to learn to tolerate it.
This was my 2 cents.
12-11-04, 04:16 PM
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While I find the volleyball scene uncomfortable, I choose to view this movie on a very superficial level. When I do that, the music, the action, and Kelly all rock!
By the way, I don't find the homoerotic themes here as obvious as in Rocky III. Rocky and Apollo embracing on the beach, all sweaty, after Rocky beats Apollo in a spring. Uh...no thanks.
By the way, I don't find the homoerotic themes here as obvious as in Rocky III. Rocky and Apollo embracing on the beach, all sweaty, after Rocky beats Apollo in a spring. Uh...no thanks.
12-14-04, 11:22 AM
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It'd be cool if we could get some comparison screenshots from the the old/new versions. With the wider aspect ratio I'm assuming we gain some horizontal image and lose some vertical. Right?
12-14-04, 12:40 PM
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I'm not going to comment on the gay undertones of this movie, but here's a review to keep you entertained:
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/topgun.html
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/topgun.html
12-14-04, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fok
I'd be interested to hear what he has to say about footlose
12-14-04, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Artman
It'd be cool if we could get some comparison screenshots from the the old/new versions. With the wider aspect ratio I'm assuming we gain some horizontal image and lose some vertical. Right?
12-15-04, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by datarush
I read Matthew Millheiser's DVD review of Top Gun: Special Collector's Edition at http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=13566
Gay Porn?? You mean to say every war movie that doesn't have women, or just a token woman or two, is Gay Porn?
Gay Porn?? You mean to say every war movie that doesn't have women, or just a token woman or two, is Gay Porn?
Do you thing this guy still believes Rock Hudson wasn't REALLY gay? Or Quentin Tarantino or Kevin Spacey?
I was pleasantly surprised that, for once, the review of the film itself was right on target.
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12-16-04, 01:19 PM
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The IGN review had me cracking up.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/573/573749p1.html
Actual quote from the movie:
"Your tail is clear. You're OK, Cougar. Just stay on my wing, I'll take you all the way in. Just stay with me. Easy, Cougar. Just a walk in the park, buddy. You're a little low. You're a little low, Coug. Come on, buddy, pull up. Pull up, Cougar. That's it. Almost there. "
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/573/573749p1.html
Actual quote from the movie:
"Your tail is clear. You're OK, Cougar. Just stay on my wing, I'll take you all the way in. Just stay with me. Easy, Cougar. Just a walk in the park, buddy. You're a little low. You're a little low, Coug. Come on, buddy, pull up. Pull up, Cougar. That's it. Almost there. "
12-16-04, 03:55 PM
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From the review of the extras
"The discs come in an Amaray case with a swinging hinge panel for Disc #1 and no insert or personal lubricants included. Drat."
"The discs come in an Amaray case with a swinging hinge panel for Disc #1 and no insert or personal lubricants included. Drat."