i'm looking for two speakers and a sub, any deals going on??

when did bose start making subs? I must really be out of touch with their current offerings. I remember some mid-bass modules, but no subs.

Very funny...mid-bass modules...

I recommend that you get a price on what they'll cost you. Then come back with what you would consider paying for the Bose setup. We will be happy to help you get much more bang(or is it boom/rumble) for your buck with non-Bose products.

The best deal on Bose is to pass right by them Seriously, if you're looking at mass merchandisers like CC or Good Guys, check out Polk or Energy. If you have access to a specialty store, listen to PSB or Paradigm or almost anything else they have. For the same price (or much less)than what Bose wants, you can do much better. Let your ears be the judge.

You've opened a can of worms. Most audiophiles dislike Bose because the quality is fairly poor (construction, and sound). There is also a significant midrange dropout for their 'sattelite/subwoofer' systems.

Here is a FAQ on the speakers and the great debate.

There was a fantastic article that ripped Bose up one side and down the other with technical details on construction and frequency response, but I can't find it.

I found it!

bose

j/k ... look around and audition other speakers before you plunge into buying a bose system.

Coouldn't agree more!!!! YOu can get a much better speaker at half the price!

Do a search on this forum for Bose and you will come up with all kinds of threads that talk about this subject!

NO HIGHS NO LOWS JUST BOSE!!

i guess everyone misunderstood, i was looking for prices , not reviews. i've heard them and like them. it's just my preference i guess. can anyone help me out with a deal insted of a review

>>>i guess everyone misunderstood, i was looking for prices , not reviews. i've heard them and like them. it's just my preference i guess. can anyone help me out with a deal insted of a review

May I respectfully submit for your consideration that Bose does not make anything which can be referred to as a true subwoofer

Yes you may!!!


Word of advice....
Speakers will always sound pretty good in an audio store. But when you get them home they might not sound as good.

I know your looking for a deal but can you honestly say you listen to other speakers before the Bose and you still like the Bose. If you did you did and still like the Bose I would goto another store and listen to speakers before sinking all that money in speakers that suck!

Have you actually LISTENED to any other brand besides Bose? The brands listed by our friends above are all better than Bose.

Are you in the military? You might try AAFES if so. If not, then I'd go with everyone else here. Bose just doesn't discount its stuff, and I'm not sure they are worth the somewhat exhorbitant amount that they charge.

I don't think that you'll find many deals on Bose here, most people listen to the advice given by the forum members and stay far away. Myself included.

Try ebay, I'm sure a lot of people will have used Bose stuff for sale.

I am not going to share my opinions about Bose as I feel like most others do about their quality and sound.

Although he has yet to post there is a member, Bose Pro, who seems to know alot about these speakers. You may want to email him to see if he can help find a good price.

Here is his email:
[email protected]

He is a fellow Del Sol owner so he has to be somewhat OK

I think everyone has given you fair warning about the quality of Bose products, so I won't bother with adding my two cents.
In any case, I haven't compared pricing, but I know they sell some Bose packages at Sam's Club, and usually they have fairly well-discounted pricing. You might want to check that out if you have one near you.

AS FAR AS SUBWOOFERS ARE CONCERNED,
from what I understand, Bose makes a Bass Module
that handles midrange and woofer frequencies, but not subwoofer frequencies. If you really want a subwoofer, you literally have to look at another brand.


AS FAR AS DEALS ARE CONCERNED,
I rarely -- if ever -- see a deal on Bose speakers. They usually do not price competitively. They are an elite speaker company and their prices reflect (or project) this elite status.

This is probably why people are steering you to other brands. You can usually find deals on similar speakers, whereas I personally have never seen a "Bose Sale". The closest I have seen are wholesale prices, but never competitively discounted prices.

This is in part due to their marketing scheme, which places them in a separate category above "normal" speakers. The mentality is this: If you are willing to buy Bose speakers, then you are usually willing to pay their higher prices as well.

That, coupled with the fact that most serious home theater forums will not recommend Bose, should mean it will be pretty difficult to find a deal here. Sorry. Try BosePro.

You also might want to try the Other Bargains forum here at DVDTalk. They might be wise to some online coupons, etc.

As much as we'd all like to help you, most of us feel that it would be in your best interest to spend money on another brand. I personally find it irresponsible to facilitate Bose sales, but I won't stop you from purchasing them.

Eh? The Dunlavys, Sonus-Fabers, Vandersteens, and their kind would be considered elite speaker companies. Bose belongs NOWHERE near such rarified company

You guys are amazing...he asks a simple question and everyone completely goes astray with the subject. Do you realize that if someone wants some info on Bose, he/she does not always want a Bose bashing thread started? You know how many people that ask about Bose on this MB e-mail me with complaints about how everyone (with the exception of a few) acts when they have a simple question? There is a way to suggest other brands and still have tac; unfortantely, most here don't have that.

Anyhow, Crow121. Bose does not make a 2 speaker system that offers a sub. Nor should they. A sub should only be necessary in two means: running a surround sound system in digital which requires a sub for the LFE level (the .1 in 5.1) OR your main speakers don't provide enough natural bass. We do however make a 5 speaker system that offers a powered bass module called the Acoustimass 15. If you want a great system with small speakers, I suggest checking it out at your local Bose store. The bass module doesn't hit as low as some other brands, but has been test down into the mid 30Hz range by Audio, Audio Review, and Sound & Vision. For 99% of home theater people, this suffices. The system has an MSRP at $1299. However, it can be had for $1000 at Bose factory stores.

Hopes this helps.

I don't know where you live, but there's a Bose outlet store in San Marcos, Texas. They have better "deals" than most on Bose equipment.

...but I still wouldn't buy it, I'm just telling you where you might find Bose equipment at a decent price. You'd do well to listen to what everyone here is saying though, you can get much better equipment that'll last better and sound better (in every sense of the word) for a cheaper price than any deal you'll find on Bose.

LOL...I re-read through all the posts again. I see people are starting to know me as the only defender of Bose! That's ok...I except the challenge....

jumbopj You own a del SOl too huh? You from the CA area? We have a HUGE del Sol meet in Vegas later this month. Check out http://www.teamdelsol.com and http://www.teamsolcal.com (where I can be found).

Digit To expand on your comments, you're right about Bose not having huge sales or being found for a bargin. Bose, since still owned by Dr. Bose, has what comes as close as possible as fixed pricing. Bose says, if you want to sell Bose, you will have to abid by our price. If you don't, we won't let you sell our product. When I first heard this, I was somewhat baffeled. Why? Then I realized why...anytime a product (any product) can be adjusted or bargined for or wheel and deal type thing, it looses value. That's the truth too! I use to think Energy Take 5 speakers were a great speaker until I hear that Good Guys is selling them for $250...way down in price. What's that say about the product? Why would they have to mark the price down so much if it is worth every penny in sound and performance? They wouldn't. I'm not saying Enery is not a great speaker company, however, I think Good Guys is devaluing their worth by lowering the price so. It doesn't need to be adjusted lower!

To further expand the Bose subject, I understand a lot of people don't like Bose (and a high % more love Bose). But, what I can't understand is why would a company that sells Bose (and Bose being a huge seller for that vendor) not endorse that product? I think a company, like CC, that sells Bose should also endorse it. If you don't like it, fine, don't sell it. We sell several different company's stuff at Bose stores like Onkyo, RCA, Sharp, Proscan, and Philips. We endores all of them! To carry and sell something you don't endorse can be devastating in the eyes of customers. Think, as an average customer here, you walk into CC and ask about the Acoustimass 15 and the sales person says he/she does not recommend that. Maybe further goes on to bash Bose a little like most places do. You ask, well why do you sell it then? And he/she replies, because we sell a lot or a lot of customers prefer Bose. Now, that customer thinks, OK, should I believe what this one sale's person says or should I believe what everyone else buys? The answer isn't that important, what's important is now that customer has doubt about the store he/she is shopping at. Most important would for that sale's person to give equal, quality demos on all the speakers systems so the customer can compare and decide. But so often, this does not happen.

OK, I don't know why I vented so much...sorry.

Latz

>>>We do however make a 5 speaker system that offers a powered bass module called the Acoustimass 15.>>The system has an MSRP at $1299. However, it can be had for $1000 at Bose factory stores.

The sale was to reduce existing invetory for the replacement model Energy System coming out this year.

As a person who is bashed constantly for their choice, I would have hoped you wouldn't bash others.

The following is copied from http://www.audioreview.com (posted by a Daniel Tonya). It is in regards to the Bose 701 product, but the points offered are applicable to the Bose question in general.

Emphasis added is mine

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Please read the review before passing judgement on these speakers, the reviewer, or another other reviewer of this product line. I can offer a unique perspective that supports both sides of this heated debate.

There are two kinds of audio listeners. One group consists of people that listen to music as a background sound. Then there are the people that occasionally spend time to listen to music more critically. Neither group is perfect, but that is how it audio breaks down by listner. Those that listen to music as something in the background, want sound that "fills" a room the same way that well designed track lighting fills a room with light. Those that occasionally like to listen to music critically, want something that sounds as realistic as possible within their allotted budget. Once again, both are fine and justifiable pursuits.

The problem arises when these two groups try and mix together their opinions. It is often like oil and water. First you must decide how you want to listen to music before you even audition a product. If you only want background sound, the Bose will give you the piece of mind and logo status that you are seeking. The piece of mind comes from purchasing something that so much advertising dollar has gone to telling you how great your purchase is. For these people, I couldn't recommend Bose enough. They will sound just fine for that application, as that is precisely the way they are designed to function.

But, if you like to listen to music critically, I would suggest that you most definitely compare brands. The reason audiophiles (those individuals that critically listen to music) give Bose such a hard time is that Bose actually charges too much for the quality of musical reproduction you are buying. The problem is that the construction and materials used to produce the speaker are of very low quality. It is not to say that a speaker cannot be made out of them, just that that speaker would be very economical to manufacture and sell. The same technique is employed by Pioneer, Technics, and Kenwood for their rack systems that are sold in electronics stores. The only difference between Bose and the speakers from Technics and the like is that the Technics speakers are rarely ever sold for more than $150 per pair. That, incidentally, is the basic cost of manufacturing a pair of Bose 701's.

It is for this reason that audiophiles wail on Bose so much. Audiophiles would wail on Technics as well, but for the $150pr they charge for them, it is pointless. The idea being you get what you paid for. Unfortunately for Bose, it is their price that makes them sound bad. If they were priced with speakers of the same performance level, you'd hardly see a post. But because Bose is charging the same money has high end audiophile and recording studio speakers from B&W, PSB, Paradigm, and Mirage (to name but a few), audiophiles feel compelled to warn new and "budding" audiophiles that money could be spent better else where. The competing speakers at the same price range often spend more on the bass drivers for their speakers than the overall manufacturing cost of the Bose 701's. If you don't believe or understand things, price the cost of raw speaker drivers. Bose use standard Taiwanese paper drivers, the kind that are in clock radios and standard equipment TV's and car stereo systems.

Now for where my experience comes from. I used to work as a salesman for Circuit City a few years ago. I worked in computers and in audio. When I first started, the sales people could see what the cost and retail and mark up percentage were for all the products being sold in the computer. All except for Bose, which was mysteriously blocked from view. Speakers in general, those that aren't the bargain basement ones, have a 20%-40% mark up! Yes folks, this is how retail chains make their money. When we had access to a managerial login, we found that Bose also had a 50% mark up! Wow! As sales people we were pushed to sell all the Bose we could, and for good reason. As sales, we made a commision, called a spiff, on each item sold. Most speakers, cause of their high margins, paid from $10 to $30 for each pair. Not bad at all. Bose though, had super incentives. You could make from $60 to $180 selling Bose speakers! That is because the manufacturer also paid part of our commisions! Now those of you that have shopped for speakers in stores that carried Bose can now know why sales people would push their line. They did it for the money. I never could cause I was an honest salesman, which is why I made less money. I gave the customer choices, not a hard sell.

But in the 2 years I worked there, I heard a lot of different speaker lines and lots of different models of speakers on all sorts of different equipment. One thing that became quickly aparent, is that the Bose could not keep up with any other speaker we sold at a similar price mark. So much so, we had to put the Bose seperate from the other systems in order to make them easier to sell. The next time a salesman or saleswoman tells you something will sound better in your home than where you are demoing them, you shouldn't buy them. You wouldn't purchase a car from a dealer that tells you the car will drive better on a different road, would you? All I am stating is that if you want to occasionally listen to music more critically, that you spend the time to demo the products before you purchase. If you don't need that kind of quality, then by all means purchase a product that will make you feel proud!