melasnus

This is a fascinating new development being promoted by filmmakers:


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be...etting-1234968

I am of 2 minds on this.
Yes, it would be good to have a built-in Filmmaker's Mode for displays.
OTOH, not all source material escapes technical errors from transfers.
Because of that, I want the ability to make minor adjustments.

As long as this is simply an OPTIONAL "mode" activated by a button on a remote, this could be a great thing.
Of course, we will have to see it in action before passing final judgement.

E Unit

Fascinating isn't really the word. But it may be bigger than Blu-Ray Live. More useless stuff in the big picture. Bill Hunt tweeted some of the filmmakers behind it.

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Hollywood filmmakers on #FilmmakerMode @thedigitalbits #ExperienceUHD 2/4 pic.twitter.com/Ba4fL2ejG1

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islandclaws

I think it's a great idea, especially to combat the woefully inadequate default settings on most sets. Makes sense, with so many people opting for home entertainment these days, filmmakers should have a voice in how their films are displayed at home by Joe Six Pack, though the irony is he doesn't know good settings from bad anyway.

E Unit

Friedkin will love this.

TomOpus

This would be good for the 10% that give a shit.

melasnus

Here is the proposed settings for Filmmaker Mode:


FILMMAKER MODE APPLIES TO BOTH SDR & HDR CONTENT:

White Point: D65


IMAGE & DISPLAY PARAMETERS:

Maintain source content frame rate & aspect ratio
Motion interpolation: OFF
Overscan: Only if signaled with the image
Sharpening: OFF
TV Noise Reduction: OFF
Other image “enhancement” processing: OFF

Brack

Shannon Nutt

Yeah, when I head about this, I basically thought to myself, so TVs will just have a setting that turns all their other settings to "OFF."

Mabuse

melasnus

Ron White and politics DOES come to mind...
Maybe it should be called the "Smart Button?"

Eddie W

Yeah, I think a better idea would be to push TV manufacturers to ship sets with all these 'features' defaulting to OFF. It irritates me to no end that I have to go in & turn all this crap off for every single input, every single mode. These enhancements should be something can enable, not something you have to disable.

Mabuse

TomOpus

Tell that to JoeSixPack.

Hokeyboy

No, they shouldn't. If J6P wants full motion smoothing and way too much contrast and sharpness up the ass, good for them. Filmmakers have zero say in that.

Dan

This is a gross over-estimation.

I'd go so far as to say less than 1% of viewers give a shit, and if this new "Filmmaker Mode" got defaulted to on for some discs or some types of content (however that would work), people would lose their shit because they THINK the image is too dark, even if it's more accurate.

E Unit

Even those who think this is a good idea will be appalled at the settings and claim most of them are wrong and the picture doesn't look right. This is more useless crap that isn't needed.

Alan Smithee

PhantomStranger

Bill Hunt had a column about this proposed feature. I really don't see the harm in it. I think this is Hollywood's way of addressing OLED and future display tech in a uniform manner.

The UHD Alliance unveils the Filmmaker Mode initiative to ensure 4K TVs display movies properly at home

melasnus

I have to agree.
Once someone PURCHASES the right to view a movie, they should have the freedom to view it any way they see fit.
And we don't need no stinkin' Nazi videophiles trying to insert control over what someone does in the privacy of their home.

FWIW, I like the term "Suggested Filmmaker's Settings" a little better.
As long as it is an optional feature incorporated in a display, then fine.

Sonic

True. This is just a feature for the high end user.

I don't know how this "Filmaker Mode" is going to be adopted. Especially when the picture and technology of each set is different. What you see on a LG OLED will be different than a Panasonic OLED etc etc so who's to say how Filmmaker mode is really supposed to look?

andicus

I didn't see any mention of a light monitor. It's hard to imagine a setting that would be good for all situations.

Regardless, I'm like others and have my TV set up properly, anyway. Still, I suppose it would be nice to be able to just do it automatically.

kefrank

I think it's a pretty decent idea, though I agree with the notion that it should be optional.

The problem with the "I have my TV set properly so it doesn't matter" argument is that some TVs make it very difficult to do so. For example, my Sony 4K set has several different, ambiguously-named and poorly-documented settings related to "motion (smoothing)". You might think, "I should just turn all of that off" but you'd be wrong, because if you turn it all off, it doesn't eliminate 3:2 pulldown to correctly show 24p content without judder. I had to find an obscure post on a home theater forum where someone did detailed testing of all of the different motion settings for my TV model to identify which combinations result in 24p content being shown properly without judder and without interpolated frames.

melasnus

VERY true.
I have a 940c and documentation on settings is frustratingly fuzzy.
Out of curiosity, which model do you have and exactly what setting are you speaking of?

kefrank

I have a 49X900E and 75X900F. Fantastic TVs overall, but the motion settings are a nightmare. Here's the post I was referring to that decodes all of the motion settings:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/son...nally.2205593/

melasnus

Thank you, Kevin.
I wasn't aware of this website.