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Old 01-03-18, 10:26 AM   #1
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CES 2018 - the new stuff

CES is descending on Vegas again Jan 7th-12th, and LG has already begun to release the details for this year's models.

http://www.avsforum.com/lg-oled-tvs-ces-2018/

As you might expect, this yearís CES includes a new lineup of LG OLED TVs. Four new model lines are being announced: B8, C8, E8, and W8. There will also be a G8, but LG plans to continue selling the G7 in the US for a while.

An important part of this story is LGís next-generation Alpha video processor. The CPU and GPU are 35% more powerful than last yearís processor, and the DDR memory is 50% faster. Other improvements include a quad-step noise-reduction algorithm and a better image-enhancement function with frequency-based sharpness, object-based contrast, and adaptive color (except in Cinema mode). Perhaps most important, the color lookup table (LUT) has expanded from 17x17x17 last year to 33x33x33 with 7.3 times more data points for more accurate colors.

Of course, high dynamic range is another crucial aspect of LG OLED TVs, which are the only flat panels on the market that support all four major HDR formats: HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG, and Technicolor. Even better, they apply LGís proprietary dynamic tone mapping, now called 4K Cinema HDR, to all HDR formats. This doesnít do much for Dolby Vision, which already includes dynamic metadata, but it greatly improves the look of HDR10, which uses static metadata, and HLG, which uses no metadata at all. In addition, last yearís HDR Effect feature expands the dynamic range of SDR content.

New for 2018 is the ability to accept and display frame rates up to 120 fps. There is no consumer content available at that frame rate yet, but these LG OLED TVs are ready for it via USB. However, they do not implement HDMI 2.1, so they cannot accept 120 fps via HDMI.

Like last year, the 2018 LG OLED TVs all use the same OLED panel. In addition, all but the B8 use the most-powerful Alpha processor, dubbed Alpha 9. The B8 uses a slightly less-powerful Alpha 7 processor, which canít render 4K HDR and HFR at the same time.

Dolby Atmos is another touted feature, which is said to provide some improvement in performance from the TVís speakers thanks to object-based audio. However, donít expect miracles from the TVís speakers! The big advantage here is that the TVs can send a Dolby Atmos bitstream from the internal apps to an outboard sound system via HDMI ARC (Audio Return Channel).

LGís smart-TV functionality has also been improved. The latest version of webOS now offers voice control by integrating Google Homeóno external device required. Voice commands are picked up by a microphone in the included Magic Remote.

The B8 sports LGís Blade Slim form factor and will be available in 55″ and 65″ screen sizes, while the C8 uses the same design in 55″, 65″, andónew for 2018ó77″ sizes. The E8 continues LGís Picture-on-Glass design in 55″ and 65″ sizes, while the W8 retains the Picture-on-Wall form factor of last yearís W7 in 65″ and 77″ sizes.

Like last yearís W7, the W8 includes a separate soundbar with integrated subwoofer that also houses all the inputs and electronics and connects to the panel with a single slender cable. Apparently, LG didnít get the memo that enthusiasts such as those on AVS Forum would prefer the option of a smaller box that houses the inputs and electronics without a soundbar.
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Old 01-03-18, 10:29 AM   #2
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Re: CES 2018 - the new stuff

The high frame rate stuff interests me, but I guess if it's not available via HDMI yet it doesn't help. There may not be consumer content, but I imagine a PC connected would have benefited for games.
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Old 01-03-18, 01:55 PM   #3
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Useless without keeping 3D capability.
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Useless without keeping 3D capability.
That ship has sailed until 20 years from now when it makes a comeback.
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Old 01-12-18, 10:53 PM   #5
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I can wait 20 years as long as my TV lasts and it actually DOES come back.
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Lack of 3D is what is keeping me from picking up a 4k tv.
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Lack of 3D is what is keeping me from picking up a 4k tv.
Me too, although sometimes I consider LG's 2016 4K OLED model. It's 3D, but I'm not a fan of the curved screen.
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3D should have been included in the 4K spec. Both players and tvs.

That's the only way it was going to take off. Having to buy a new, expensive tv and blu-ray player in order to play a handful of movies in 3 D was never going to fly. It might have worked if it was backdoored into UHD/4K, but even then I think it still would have been a longshot.
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Which is why it was unreasonable for the industry to expect it to take off so big. This sort of thing takes TIME to be adopted- but in the meantime you donít yank it away after people HAVE bought into it. What the fuck do they expect me to do with my 300 or so 3D discs? Watch them in boring 2D or throw them away?
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And bottom line for the CES 2018, 3D is non-existent.
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That's the only way it was going to take off. Having to buy a new, expensive tv and blu-ray player in order to play a handful of movies in 3 D was never going to fly. It might have worked if it was backdoored into UHD/4K, but even then I think it still would have been a longshot.
Yeah, definitely a long shot. I don't really understand those thinking that somehow it would slowly continue to grow when everything had pointed to interest fading considerably.
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Me too, although sometimes I consider LG's 2016 4K OLED model. It's 3D, but I'm not a fan of the curved screen.
The 2016 E6 is flat and it can do 3D.

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65E6P-oled-4k-tv
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The 2016 E6 is flat and it can do 3D.

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65E6P-oled-4k-tv
Good to know. Guess I was only familiar with the C series.
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Lack of 3D is what is keeping me from picking up a 4k tv.
It's what pushed me to buy a 4k tv. So I could get one before it was finally phased out.
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