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Jay G. 04-10-11 04:09 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10718585)
so which one are you recommending...the older Sony Bravia 120hz?

If the only concern was 60hz vs 120hz, then I would say yes.

However, there's lots of other factors. For example, the older KDL32EX500 doesn't have any internet features. This is something you seemed to be interested in having.

Also, the KDL32EX500 uses CCFL (florescent light) instead of LED for the backlight, which makes it thicker. It's also using an older image processor.

Ideally, you'd want something a little newer, with most or all of the features of the KDL32EX523, but with 120hz. Maybe either last year's KDL32EX710 (Which includes a "24p True Cinema" mode), or this year's KDL32EX720 (240hz and 3D ready). However, I don't know what your price range is.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041TNM9C/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HYG9XC/

Keep in mind that since this is your first HDTV, that means that you've been viewing movies all your life on your 60hz SDTVs, with the 3:2 pulldown judder. For the record, aside from the pan in RED (which was probably noticeable because it was such a long shot), I don't normally notice the judder on films myself. That said, the next time I upgrade my TV, I'll probably go with at least 120hz (which may be the standard by then).

OldBoy 04-10-11 04:30 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10718628)
If the only concern was 60hz vs 120hz, then I would say yes.

However, there's lots of other factors. For example, the older KDL32EX500 doesn't have any internet features. This is something you seemed to be interested in having.

Also, the KDL32EX500 uses CCFL (florescent light) instead of LED for the backlight, which makes it thicker. It's also using an older image processor.

Ideally, you'd want something a little newer, with most or all of the features of the KDL32EX523, but with 120hz. Maybe either last year's KDL32EX710 (Which includes a "24p True Cinema" mode), or this year's KDL32EX720 (240hz and 3D ready). However, I don't know what your price range is.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041TNM9C/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HYG9XC/

Keep in mind that since this is your first HDTV, that means that you've been viewing movies all your life on your 60hz SDTVs, with the 3:2 pulldown judder. For the record, aside from the pan in RED (which was probably noticeable because it was such a long shot), I don't normally notice the judder on films myself. That said, the next time I upgrade my TV, I'll probably go with at least 120hz (which may be the standard by then).

boy...i wish i saw this 30min ago...would have gone with 710 actually.
actually, the internet thing isn't that big of a deal since i was only going to use it for streaming netflix and since i do that with XBOX already, it wasn't a big deal considering i just realized i don't even have another port on my router for the tv. even wireless would require the other attachment with 523 so no biggie.

when you say "thicker" you mean the tv size? again, i don't really mind that either.

Jay G. 04-10-11 06:09 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10718645)
boy...i wish i saw this 30min ago...would have gone with 710 actually.

You can't change your order, or cancel and order the other one?


when you say "thicker" you mean the tv size? again, i don't really mind that either.
Yeah, the 500 is about 4" deep, or "thick", while the 523 is about 1.7" deep. It's probably not a huge concern for many people, but some like the thinner ones. LED backlights are also considered to be brighter and more even than CCFLs.

OldBoy 04-10-11 07:36 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10718776)
You can't change your order, or cancel and order the other one?


Yeah, the 500 is about 4" deep, or "thick", while the 523 is about 1.7" deep. It's probably not a huge concern for many people, but some like the thinner ones. LED backlights are also considered to be brighter and more even than CCFLs.

I emailed them and think it would be ok (it is in th shipping stage), but i can be persuasive in writing. so I am gonna get the 710 which just makes more sense since I will try and hook up to internet and get netflix going rather than through xbox.

So should be here this week and will be able to play with it for spring break next week. Woo hoo.

Thanks again for replies and thanks to you especially Jay!

Spiky 04-10-11 09:57 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
BTW, adding a switch to your network is probably inexpensive if you are running out of ethernet space.
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Ether...2490574&sr=8-3

OldBoy 04-11-11 03:45 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 10719035)
BTW, adding a switch to your network is probably inexpensive if you are running out of ethernet space.
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Ether...2490574&sr=8-3

So I just use one ethernet port on my existing router andthis adds 5 more ethernet ports? Sort of like a multi-phone jack? Thanks spiky, probably exactly what I need.

riotinmyskull 04-11-11 05:02 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
have you been watching your blu-rays on a tube tv?

matome 04-11-11 08:20 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10719290)
So I just use one ethernet port on my existing router andthis adds 5 more ethernet ports? Sort of like a multi-phone jack? Thanks spiky, probably exactly what I need.

Actually only four more since you need one jack to connect it to the router, but yes.

Jay G. 04-11-11 08:33 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10719290)
So I just use one ethernet port on my existing router andthis adds 5 more ethernet ports? Sort of like a multi-phone jack? Thanks spiky, probably exactly what I need.

Technically, that 5 port switch will only add 3 more ethernet ports to your setup; 1 port is used up by the uplink to the router, while another port will be used up by whatever you had previously plugged into the router.

OldBoy 04-11-11 09:03 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10719426)
Technically, that 5 port switch will only add 3 more ethernet ports to your setup; 1 port is used up by the uplink to the router, while another port will be used up by whatever you had previously plugged into the router.

^ either way I just needed the one new port for tv. i assume i can pick one up in Radio Shack?

is there a difference between streaming Netflix directly through tv and streaming through XBOX 360 then tv?

and yes, i was successful in cancelling 500 model and getting the 710 yay! just has all the features i would want and a newer model like you said Jay.

can't friggin' wait!!!!

OldBoy 04-11-11 09:03 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10719310)
have you been watching your blu-rays on a tube tv?

i know, the horror!

Superdaddy 04-11-11 09:11 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
Nothing wrong with watching BDs on a tube...kind of forward thinking to have started buying them if one doesn't have an HDTV.

Now your HDTV will give them new life, so to speak.

Enjoy owning an HD setup! I finally made the jump in 2009 and just love it to death!

Jay G. 04-11-11 09:51 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10719462)
^ either way I just needed the one new port for tv. i assume i can pick one up in Radio Shack?

There, or an electronics store like Best Buy. Best Buy may have a better in-store assortment. Either way, if you buy in a store instead of having it shipped to you, you may end up paying a little more.

Some switches I found at radioshack:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2894746
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2945585

Best Buy's listings:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...getype=listing


is there a difference between streaming Netflix directly through tv and streaming through XBOX 360 then tv?
If they're both plugged into the network via wires, there shouldn't be a difference in network speed. However, there may be a difference in terms of what features each Netflix app offers. For example, I have Netflix on my Wii in the living room and on my Panasonic Blu-ray in the bedroom. The Wii app has more navigation features, as well as the ability to search for new titles to add to my queue; the Panasonic app only shows my queue. However, the Panasonic can stream titles in HD, while the Wii can only stream in SD.

I'm guessing that the Xbox 360 Netflix app is probably better than the one built into the TV. However, there's no harm in trying out both.

OldBoy 04-11-11 10:49 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10719530)
There, or an electronics store like Best Buy. Best Buy may have a better in-store assortment. Either way, if you buy in a store instead of having it shipped to you, you may end up paying a little more.

Some switches I found at radioshack:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2894746
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2945585

Best Buy's listings:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...getype=listing


If they're both plugged into the network via wires, there shouldn't be a difference in network speed. However, there may be a difference in terms of what features each Netflix app offers. For example, I have Netflix on my Wii in the living room and on my Panasonic Blu-ray in the bedroom. The Wii app has more navigation features, as well as the ability to search for new titles to add to my queue; the Panasonic app only shows my queue. However, the Panasonic can stream titles in HD, while the Wii can only stream in SD.

I'm guessing that the Xbox 360 Netflix app is probably better than the one built into the TV. However, there's no harm in trying out both.

yeah, i will just swap a plug or something and check it out. won't spring for the adapter when i think xbox will be sufficient.

between the tv and hdmi cables i think my spending will cease for a bit.

OldBoy 04-11-11 10:51 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10719477)
Nothing wrong with watching BDs on a tube...kind of forward thinking to have started buying them if one doesn't have an HDTV.

Now your HDTV will give them new life, so to speak.

Enjoy owning an HD setup! I finally made the jump in 2009 and just love it to death!

i knew it was inevitable and finally got the money to make the switch. already had the xbox, blu-ray and HD reciever, so only thing left was the actual instrument in which to fully enjoy. now, i will. should be here this week! looking forward to the movies, but can't wait to watch the Yankees in HD glory...ahhhhh!

PopcornTreeCt 04-11-11 05:13 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
This thread is so 3 years ago.

Jay G. 04-11-11 05:19 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10720267)
This thread is so 3 years ago.

Only about 60% of US households have a HDTV, so threads like this will probably exist for at least a few more years:
http://www.hometechtell.com/hometech...l-lags-behind/

PopcornTreeCt 04-11-11 05:39 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10720279)
Only about 60% of US households have a HDTV, so threads like this will probably exist for at least a few more years:
http://www.hometechtell.com/hometech...l-lags-behind/

What's the percentage of DVDTalkers that have a HDTV? I would wager more than 60%.

Jay G. 04-11-11 09:19 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10720304)
What's the percentage of DVDTalkers that have a HDTV? I would wager more than 60%.

Citing any percentage for DVDTalkers is just pure speculation. However, I don't think we should be uninviting to new HDTV owners just because they're later to the game than many of us.

Spiky 04-11-11 09:56 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
Technically, I now have zero TVs. Which side am I on?

Any TV programming I watch is on a projector or computer screen at the moment.

Jay G. 04-12-11 07:26 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 10720771)
Technically, I now have zero TVs. Which side am I on?

Any TV programming I watch is on a projector or computer screen at the moment.

Is it an HD projector?

Spiky 04-12-11 11:48 AM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
720p, yes. But no tuner, of course.

My computer displays are also greater than 720p.

Jay G. 04-12-11 01:43 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by Spiky (Post 10721457)
720p [projector], yes.

Only 720p? You may as well perform seppuku right now, for the shame you've brought to this forum. ;)

OldBoy 04-12-11 03:45 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 
so does brand of HDMI cables matter at all? i got $10 ones from Amazon...

also, after i hook up the tv and connect the proper cables, will my tv be ready to go straight from the box or will i have to do some major setup to get screen adjusted and correct for all my HD viewing?

Jay G. 04-12-11 04:44 PM

Re: Just got my 1st HD TV! i think that is...
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10721897)
so does brand of HDMI cables matter at all? i got $10 ones from Amazon...

They matter, but not to the extent that analog cables did, and over short distances even the cheapest of cables may be enough.
http://m.gizmodo.com/266616/the-trut...-monster-cable
http://m.gizmodo.com/268788/the-trut...keep-upusually
http://m.gizmodo.com/282725/the-trut...inale-part-iii

http://www.audioholics.com/education...esting-results

I typically get my cables from Monoprice due to their reputation of high quality and low price:
http://www.monoprice.com


also, after i hook up the tv and connect the proper cables, will my tv be ready to go straight from the box or will i have to do some major setup to get screen adjusted and correct for all my HD viewing?
You'd be "ready to go" in the sense that you'll be able to view HD. However, some tweaking could result in a better viewing experience.

For example, in regards to the previous 120hz discussion, I'd recommend turning off Motionflow and setting Cinemotion to Auto 2. On your Blu-ray player, make sure the output resolution is 1080p, and set for 24p for films, if available.

There's also a firmware update for this TV, so you may want to hook up your TV to your network and make sure it's up-to-date:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...mdl=KDL32EX710

You can also "calibrate" your TV. Some (all?) Pixar Blu-rays include calibration patterns, or you can buy a disc that's specifically for calibration:
http://www.amazon.com/Disney-WOW-Wor.../dp/B0045ASBLG


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