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Old 09-17-07 | 05:10 PM
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Digital TV Channels

I recently oved into a new apartment in RI and we share the cable at this time with the main residence. We have a Samsung Progection DLP tv and we only have the cable going directly into the TV we do not have a digital cable box. We are receiving channels on the tv that are not on the regular channels. We are getting channels like the NFL network on channel 66 but on digital cable it is in the 700's. We are even getting on demant movies and channels the poeple next door do not have the digital cable set up. Is there any explanation to why we are getting the channels?
Old 09-17-07 | 06:18 PM
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Whoever you are "sharing" cable with is sending channels to your tv via that cable
Old 09-17-07 | 07:34 PM
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Sounds related to switched digital video.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_video

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000291.html
Old 09-18-07 | 07:01 AM
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Thank you for your help greatly appreciated
Old 09-18-07 | 08:31 AM
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There's no way it could be SDV. That requires a two-way communications device (cable box or cablecard).

It sounds to me like the OP's cable company no longer offers analog basic cable and they are reassigning some of those frequencies to other channels and services. It doesn't explain why they're not encrypting them, though.
Old 09-18-07 | 09:07 AM
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What it sounds like to me is QAM:

A QAM tuner is a device present in some digital televisions and similar devices which enables direct reception of digital cable channels without the use of a set-top box. QAM stands for "quadrature amplitude modulation," the format by which digital cable channels are encoded and transmitted via cable. QAM tuners can be likened to the cable equivalent of an ATSC tuner which is required to receive over-the-air (OTA) digital channels broadcast by local television stations. Many new digital televisions contain both and are labeled "with ATSC/QAM Tuner". Unlike the case with ATSC tuners there is no FCC requirement that QAM tuners be included in new television sets, but the same hardware is used for both and QAM is commonly included.

An integrated QAM tuner allows the free reception of unscrambled digital programming sent "in the clear" by cable providers, usually local broadcast stations; however most digital channels are scrambled because the providers consider them to be extra-cost options and not part of the "basic cable" package. Which channels are scrambled varies greatly from location to location, and can change over time. In the United States a television that is labeled digital cable ready can have a CableCARD installed by the cable provider to unscramble the protected channels, allowing subscribers to tune all authorized digital channels without the use of a set-top box.

QAM-based HD programming of local stations is sometimes available to analog cable subscribers, without paying the additional fees for a digital cable box. The availability of QAM HD programming is rarely described or publicized in cable company product literature.

Although technically most digital and high-definition programming on cable uses QAM, the term is generally reserved among viewers for discussions of unlabeled channels. These are not included in guide information on devices like TiVo DVRs, and can be unexpectedly moved from channel to channel. This makes watching QAM channels frustrating for the casual viewer, encouraging them to purchase a "digital cable package" which includes a set top box and guide data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAM_tuner
Old 09-18-07 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chew
What it sounds like to me is QAM:
I agree. I recently got a QAM-compatible HDTV tuner for my HTPC and often find PPV movies playing on several of the digital stations on my basic analog cable service.

The channel goes dark right after the movie is over. I suppose people in the neighborhood are ordering the movies and my tuner isn't blocked from receiving them.
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I agree. I recently got a QAM-compatible HDTV tuner for my HTPC and often find PPV movies playing on several of the digital stations on my basic analog cable service.

The channel goes dark right after the movie is over. I suppose people in the neighborhood are ordering the movies and my tuner isn't blocked from receiving them.
But are they dirty movies?
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But are they dirty movies?
The guys running through the jungle in Apocalypto sure were dirty.

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