dvd upconversion makes no difference
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dvd upconversion makes no difference
I just got a 40inch HDTV and a dvd player that has the upconverter built in. The DVD player has a resolution setting button that allows me to choose either 480i, 720p, or 1080i. But no matter which resolution I choose, the picture quality stays the same. Does anyone know why this is the case? I'm connected though the HDMI. Here are the models of my TV and DVD player:
Samsung HDTV Model: LN-R409D
- http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNR409DXXAA.asp
LG DVD Player Model: LDA511 http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/LG-HD...oductDetail.do
Samsung HDTV Model: LN-R409D
- http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNR409DXXAA.asp
LG DVD Player Model: LDA511 http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/LG-HD...oductDetail.do
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The likely reason is that your TVs scaler is as good as the DVDp's. I don't know the quality of that LG unit, but that is likely the reason.
Most (all?) fixed-pixel displays have their own scaler (it will convert all sources to 760p in your case). So, on its own the TV is coverting the DVD from 480p to 760p. If the DVDp does a better job, then setting it at 720p would show a benefit.
Most (all?) fixed-pixel displays have their own scaler (it will convert all sources to 760p in your case). So, on its own the TV is coverting the DVD from 480p to 760p. If the DVDp does a better job, then setting it at 720p would show a benefit.
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I agree with MBS. The scaler in your tv is quite good (I have the 26 inch version in my bedroom). Although I don't have experience with your dvd player, I would not be surprised at all if its scaler isn't as good as the tv's scaler (after all, $120 for an upconverting DVD player is on the very low end of price). If you are happy with the picture you are getting, then forget the upconversion and enjoy! However, if you want more and/or have the urge to tweak, try out a better upconverting DVDp. I use a Denon 2910 ($700) with my Samsung DLP and 720p looks much better than 480p. You should be able to find a dealer that will let you try out another DVD player for a few days to see if it makes a difference.
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Thanks for the explaination. So the tv's scaler and the dvd's upconverter are basically the same thing? I will return the dvd player and try different model to see if it makes any difference.
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Originally Posted by isunshine
Thanks for the explaination. So the tv's scaler and the dvd's upconverter are basically the same thing? I will return the dvd player and try different model to see if it makes any difference.
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A slight twist on the above:
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
A slight twist on the above:
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
You could always get the new Anthem D2 that will scale to just about any resolution you can think of (including 768p). It's a bargain at $6500
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Originally Posted by Spiky
A slight twist on the above:
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
That TV has a WXGA resolution of 768p rather than an HDTV resolution of 720p. unless you are able to feed it exactly its native 768p resolution (like from a PC), it will ALWAYS be rescaling the signal. Depending on how much processing it does to do this, it may not matter what scaler is in the DVD player. You could potentially see the same results from a standalone scaler for $3000 if sending it a non-native signal.
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I bought a samsung 850 dvd player.. I had nothing but problems with it.. the picture was too dark at 1080i.. the picture at 480P looked better on my cheaper dvd player.. so I took the upconverter back to ciruit city.
I would try a differnt dvd player for upconversion.
JACOB
I would try a differnt dvd player for upconversion.
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Originally Posted by JACOB
I bought a samsung 850 dvd player.. I had nothing but problems with it.. the picture was too dark at 1080i..
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I did.. but then it would be over 50 percent in brightnes, contrast, etc.
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I have the new Pioneer 4360 plasma, and I'm thinking of getting an upconverting player. Would there be a very noticable difference? My current player is a bit old and is connected via component cables.
So if yes, I'd like some recommendations as to what's the better upconverting DVD player on the market. Two points however, I'd like a region-free player, and also one that allows pillarboxing upscaled 4:3 content.
So if yes, I'd like some recommendations as to what's the better upconverting DVD player on the market. Two points however, I'd like a region-free player, and also one that allows pillarboxing upscaled 4:3 content.
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Two points however, I'd like a region-free player, and also one that allows pillarboxing upscaled 4:3 content.
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Originally Posted by jmj713
I have the new Pioneer 4360 plasma, and I'm thinking of getting an upconverting player. Would there be a very noticable difference? My current player is a bit old and is connected via component cables.
So if yes, I'd like some recommendations as to what's the better upconverting DVD player on the market. Two points however, I'd like a region-free player, and also one that allows pillarboxing upscaled 4:3 content.
So if yes, I'd like some recommendations as to what's the better upconverting DVD player on the market. Two points however, I'd like a region-free player, and also one that allows pillarboxing upscaled 4:3 content.
The Oppo can be made region free easily and does a great job with 4:3 content - see this thread over at the AVS forum.
The only thing I would say is that the Oppo is only considered average via component; connecting via DVI/HDMI is a must.
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Originally Posted by jmj713
It looks good but I see it has no HDMI out, only DVI that you can then connect to an HDMI input via a DVI-to-HDMI switcher. That can't be too good.




