Which TV should i get..!?
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Which TV should i get..!?
ok im looking for a TV.. i am pretty much only gonna use it for movies all the time.. ill play games on it but i want a tv that looks great for movies.. this is what im looking at right now.. which on should i pick 1 or 2..!? Thanks in advance for any help..
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...01839%3A182303
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...&xsell=3649951
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...01839%3A182303
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...&xsell=3649951
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It's ALOT cheaper at Costco.
edit: this is a good deal at Costco!
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=79*2341*2342*
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I try not to buy my HT equipment at the same place I can buy Fruit of the Looms, Silly Putty and Cheerios...but maybe that's just me.
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Originally Posted by The_Infidel
I try not to buy my HT equipment at the same place I can buy Fruit of the Looms, Silly Putty and Cheerios...but maybe that's just me.
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Originally Posted by Sdallnct
But once in your house, does it really matter where it came from?
Other than that, my previous comment was supposed to be taken as a joke, hence the .
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hey Sdallnct can you repost your link or let me know what you are trying to show me because when i click on the link it says
"Sorry, your session has expired.
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You will also get this message if you bookmark a page inside samsclub.com.
You can begin a new session by going to our home page. If you had items in your cart you will need to re-add them."
"Sorry, your session has expired.
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Originally Posted by Redsand
hey Sdallnct can you repost your link or let me know what you are trying to show me because when i click on the link it says
"Sorry, your session has expired.
To maximize the security of your account, you will be logged off if you are inactive for an extended period of time.
You will also get this message if you bookmark a page inside samsclub.com.
You can begin a new session by going to our home page. If you had items in your cart you will need to re-add them."
"Sorry, your session has expired.
To maximize the security of your account, you will be logged off if you are inactive for an extended period of time.
You will also get this message if you bookmark a page inside samsclub.com.
You can begin a new session by going to our home page. If you had items in your cart you will need to re-add them."
But the ones at Sam's and Costco come with a screen, 76" I believe.
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From the original 2 choices:
If you're going to play games, don't get the plasma. Then make sure the response time on the LCD is under 16ms. If it's not, don't get that either.
If you're going to play games, don't get the plasma. Then make sure the response time on the LCD is under 16ms. If it's not, don't get that either.
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Originally Posted by renaldow
From the original 2 choices:
If you're going to play games, don't get the plasma. Then make sure the response time on the LCD is under 16ms. If it's not, don't get that either.
If you're going to play games, don't get the plasma. Then make sure the response time on the LCD is under 16ms. If it's not, don't get that either.
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If you're looking at off-brands of LCD, try a cheaper place with better policies:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rPath=79*3316*
Or go with a big name (one of the 2 biggest for LCD), still cheaper:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rPath=79*3316*
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rPath=79*3316*
Or go with a big name (one of the 2 biggest for LCD), still cheaper:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rPath=79*3316*
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Sdallnct,
The AE700 should be cheaper than that. Check out Visual Apex.
The AE700 should be cheaper than that. Check out Visual Apex.
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Originally Posted by The_Infidel
Not completely, but I'd still rather buy from a place with people who know a lot more about what they're selling.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
That also eliminates Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.
Personally I would do your research on your own. There are several AWESOME web sites in which you can learn every screw, bolt of every HT item ever made. Then buy from where ever has the cheapest prices.
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Originally Posted by Sdallnct
The problem is if you go to a high end "boutique" you may get excellent knowledge and service, but then you will also pay full retail.
Personally I would do your research on your own. There are several AWESOME web sites in which you can learn every screw, bolt of every HT item ever made. Then buy from where ever has the cheapest prices.
Personally I would do your research on your own. There are several AWESOME web sites in which you can learn every screw, bolt of every HT item ever made. Then buy from where ever has the cheapest prices.
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Originally Posted by Redsand
tv but i just want to know which would be better for movies LCD or Plasma.. Thanks in advance..
In addition, in general you can get burn in with Plasma and not with LCD. This statement is not exactly true, and not as true as it once was, but probably something you should be aware of. Taking even the most modest precautions will almost assure you of no burn in on to days plasma. I believe LCD's can suffer a type of burn in, but it is rare (I may be getting confused with DLP here, so Spiky can correct me if I have misspoken).
Again, all the above are very general statements based on the overall technology. I'm sure however there are some particular models of LCD's that have excellent blacks and some Plasmas that do well in bright light.
These came up on a quick Google,
http://www.flattvpeople.com/tutorials/lcd-vs-plasma.asp
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6213889-1.html
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...579/94117.html
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LCD panels seem to do better for black than LCD projectors. Unless extraordinary measures are taken with the projectors. But it is true that for a deep black freak CRT technologies are the only way to go.
But to comment on burn-in....DLP has no chance of it, not even a consideration. LCD doesn't really, either. There is a chance of image memory popping up if you leave it on for a few days, but that should go away with a reboot or 2, or by showing some single color screens. There is still this Texas Instruments study out that is confusing people. They murdered a bunch of LCD projectors, then complained that they died, and people call it "burn-in". I wouldn't worry about it too much. Note that since TI is the sole manufacturer of DLP, they may have an interest in making LCD seem like a bad idea. (actually, they didn't die, the blue panels were damaged somewhat by prolonged exposure to the lamp)
A more real danger with LCD is dead pixels. I will be getting LCD for my house since I don't trust my wife's viewing habits with plasma. Too much chance of burn-in and 3/4 of what she watches is shopping channels with those damn info bars.
But to comment on burn-in....DLP has no chance of it, not even a consideration. LCD doesn't really, either. There is a chance of image memory popping up if you leave it on for a few days, but that should go away with a reboot or 2, or by showing some single color screens. There is still this Texas Instruments study out that is confusing people. They murdered a bunch of LCD projectors, then complained that they died, and people call it "burn-in". I wouldn't worry about it too much. Note that since TI is the sole manufacturer of DLP, they may have an interest in making LCD seem like a bad idea. (actually, they didn't die, the blue panels were damaged somewhat by prolonged exposure to the lamp)
A more real danger with LCD is dead pixels. I will be getting LCD for my house since I don't trust my wife's viewing habits with plasma. Too much chance of burn-in and 3/4 of what she watches is shopping channels with those damn info bars.
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The first link in Sdallnct's post is biased toward LCD unnecessarily. Note that some of the data comes from NEC, which makes LCDs and not plasmas, I think.
For instance:
1) It claims contrast on plasmas is worse than LCD. Sounds like creative use of numbers to me.
2) Plasmas are not hard to hang on walls. They are not that heavy. I had a discussion with some installers about this at Remote Central. They are all paranoid about it. A 42" plasma is about 80-120#. Your average 27" TV is around 70-100#, but nobody freaks out about hanging those on a little pipe, check your dentist's office. Plasma's mounts are wider and can be hung on 2 studs instead of one like the tube TV mounts. One guy was hanging an 80# plasma and built up the wall so much that he and his coworker could hang from the mount. So he tests it with 400# to see if 80 can hang there? There's safety, and there's paranoia. Do it right and there won't be a problem.
3) They are not as fragile as that site claims, either. At least not when compared with LCD panels.
For instance:
1) It claims contrast on plasmas is worse than LCD. Sounds like creative use of numbers to me.
2) Plasmas are not hard to hang on walls. They are not that heavy. I had a discussion with some installers about this at Remote Central. They are all paranoid about it. A 42" plasma is about 80-120#. Your average 27" TV is around 70-100#, but nobody freaks out about hanging those on a little pipe, check your dentist's office. Plasma's mounts are wider and can be hung on 2 studs instead of one like the tube TV mounts. One guy was hanging an 80# plasma and built up the wall so much that he and his coworker could hang from the mount. So he tests it with 400# to see if 80 can hang there? There's safety, and there's paranoia. Do it right and there won't be a problem.
3) They are not as fragile as that site claims, either. At least not when compared with LCD panels.
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ok now when a tvs specs say:
"Progressive Scan feature works with progressive (480p) scan DVD players to display movies in the best quality possible "
now does that also mean that i can still use the 480p, 540P, 576p, 720p, 1080i and the Up Convert from 480i to 720p/1080i that is on my OPPO dvd player with this tv..!? now to be honest i have no idea what is the difference between any of them but what is the main differnce in them..? does that play a big factor in the tv that i should get, what progressive scan mode it can do or what not.. now i understand that games and that can do 1080i and such does every HDTV support those settings..? again so far thanks for all the help you guys have given me it has made my serach a lot better, thanks..
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"Progressive Scan feature works with progressive (480p) scan DVD players to display movies in the best quality possible "
now does that also mean that i can still use the 480p, 540P, 576p, 720p, 1080i and the Up Convert from 480i to 720p/1080i that is on my OPPO dvd player with this tv..!? now to be honest i have no idea what is the difference between any of them but what is the main differnce in them..? does that play a big factor in the tv that i should get, what progressive scan mode it can do or what not.. now i understand that games and that can do 1080i and such does every HDTV support those settings..? again so far thanks for all the help you guys have given me it has made my serach a lot better, thanks..
Redsand..
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The TV will have its own resolution. No matter what you send, it can only output native, so it will convert if necessary. You would most likely want to match the Oppo output to the TV's native resolution, although you should experiment just in case.
480i = VHS, analog TV, DVD, etc.
480p = Any of the above converted to progressive. DVD is made to be easily converted to 480p.
540p = "quarter HD" This is the same scan rate as 1080i, but in progressive format. Some CRT TVs have skimped and offer this as a native resolution. I don't think it would exist except for that, a strange resolution right in the middle of all the others.
576p = PAL standard TV/DVDs converted to progressive. If you have some European discs, this may mean something. If not, don't worry about it.
720p = Fox, ABC/ESPN native HD resolution.
1080i = NBC, CBS native HD resolution. (I hope I have all these networks correct, there are others, too...HBO, HDNet, etc.)
CRTs are usually 1080i with either 480p or 540p as a second native res. There are several different resolutions for plasma, LCD and DLP, you'd have to look at the particular model. If it is anything less than 1280x720p, it is actually an EDTV, a step down from HDTV.
Almost all HDTVs will accept a 1080i signal and display them in the native res. There should also be a spec given for input resolutions, since they can't convert EVERY resolution known to man. But most TVs will accept all the standard TV resolutions above and then convert to the native output. It's just all the PC resolutions they won't necessarily be able to handle. So if you use a PC, you tell the computer to match the TV instead of telling the TV to match the computer.
480i = VHS, analog TV, DVD, etc.
480p = Any of the above converted to progressive. DVD is made to be easily converted to 480p.
540p = "quarter HD" This is the same scan rate as 1080i, but in progressive format. Some CRT TVs have skimped and offer this as a native resolution. I don't think it would exist except for that, a strange resolution right in the middle of all the others.
576p = PAL standard TV/DVDs converted to progressive. If you have some European discs, this may mean something. If not, don't worry about it.
720p = Fox, ABC/ESPN native HD resolution.
1080i = NBC, CBS native HD resolution. (I hope I have all these networks correct, there are others, too...HBO, HDNet, etc.)
CRTs are usually 1080i with either 480p or 540p as a second native res. There are several different resolutions for plasma, LCD and DLP, you'd have to look at the particular model. If it is anything less than 1280x720p, it is actually an EDTV, a step down from HDTV.
Almost all HDTVs will accept a 1080i signal and display them in the native res. There should also be a spec given for input resolutions, since they can't convert EVERY resolution known to man. But most TVs will accept all the standard TV resolutions above and then convert to the native output. It's just all the PC resolutions they won't necessarily be able to handle. So if you use a PC, you tell the computer to match the TV instead of telling the TV to match the computer.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
480i = VHS, analog TV, DVD, etc.
VHS: About 220 lines of resolution
Broadcast TV: About 330 lines of resolution
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...n-july-99.html
Originally Posted by Redsand
i want what looks better for movies.. i can take the hit on the games and not play them on the tv but i just want to know which would be better for movies LCD or Plasma.. Thanks in advance..
If you want to play games, get LCD and make sure it has a response time of 16ms or less. Otherwise, look at both the plasma and LCD and buy whichever one looks best.
FWIW, I have a plasma and 2 LCD's. I love the pic quality on all of them. Both technologies have their pros and cons. My plasma is the largest, so I enjoy movies on it more than the smaller LCDs. It also has a more lifelike picture, IMHO. I can play games on the LCDs, and standard cable looks great on them, which it doesn't on the plasma. So, it's all give and take. Look at both and judge for yourself.
Edited to add:
And to be honest, I probably wouldn't buy either of the TV's you linked to unless Walmart was the only store around and they were the only option. Even then, I think I'd check out a lot of reviews of them online first.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiky
480i = VHS, analog TV, DVD, etc.
Not true. If it were, all 3 would look equally as good.
VHS: About 220 lines of resolution
Broadcast TV: About 330 lines of resolution
Originally Posted by Spiky
480i = VHS, analog TV, DVD, etc.
Not true. If it were, all 3 would look equally as good.
VHS: About 220 lines of resolution
Broadcast TV: About 330 lines of resolution