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Old 10-23-02 | 06:50 AM
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35mm film lines of resolution?

What would the approximate number lines of resolution that 35mm offers?
Old 10-23-02 | 07:03 AM
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If you were going to make a comparison to digital, high quality film would be ~ 20 million pixels.
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How does that translate into lines of resolution in terms of tv?

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Somewhat less than 4 million lines of vertical resolution. Not really a good comparison. Good S-video has ~ 500 lines of resolution. VHS 240. Where film really shines is its' contrast range. Video has a much compressed contrast range compared to film.
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So HDTV doesn't come close to approximating film then?

Is there a standard conversation to compare the amount of pixels in film to other formats, such as each line of resolution is made up of x number of pixels?
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I don't think that there really is a way to compare the resolution of film to other formats. Film does not have pixels for all intents and purposes it's more of a continuous gradation. The actual film "pixels" cannot be seen unless extreme magnification is used like a microscope. This is coming from my limited experience.
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Film resolution varies depending on the stock used. It's the same as 35mm camera film. 1000 ASA film is a lot grainer than 25 ASA film. On the other hand, you can shoot in much lower ambient light with 1000 ASA film. Films resolution is the size of a silver halide crystal (very small...). Video formats are always a trade-off of how much resolution you desire vs. the file size/processing power necessary to display the image at a given size. I really think it would be funny to see what a camcorder image would look like blown up to the size of a drive-in movie screen...
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So how many pixles does HDTV have and is there a standard way to determine how many pixels per line resoultion there is in non-film formats?

If film would have rougly 4 million lines of resolution does hdtv do a good job of duplicating that, less/more?
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I'm tired of the math... Try this:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=207243
Old 10-24-02 | 04:14 PM
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So assuming I chose the right numbers that would put HDTV around 1.2 million pixels at best? For those that have time comparing film and a good HDTV signal, are they comparable?
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HDTV is 1920x1080, 2.0736 million pixels.

I've heard 35mm slides need at least 3000x3000 dpi resolution to scan well. That would be 9 million pixels if 35mm film is an inch square. Less, if it's less.

Here's a 4000 dpi scanner that's supposed to be good for film...

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2871/IDG010529Canon/

And here's something talking about film resolution in lines per millimeter...

http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/lenslpm.html

And here's a 16 megapixel camera that they say is twice the resolution of film...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00...foveon16mp.asp

Only two weeks ago, Eastman Kodak announced a chip able to capture digital images with a resolution of 4,096 by 4,096 picture elements — or pixels — per square inch. That, by some measures, is about twice the resolution of 35-millimeter film.
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Thanks.
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The Evolution of Resolution, by Film Technology

For this article I will concentrate on 35m film resolution. The negative itself can achieve resolutions exceeding 6K, however zoom lenses tend to limit this to around 4K. Finally the printing process itself typically reduces there solution of film, to about 2K at the Inter-positive stage, with further minor reductions at each subsequent print stage. Therefore the result at the cinema, including projector lens losses, often measures less than 1.5K resolution on the screen.
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Well I guess when HD-DVD get released then atleast we won't have to rebuy the movies up until the point that film gets better if HDTV can duplicate the video quality.

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