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Old 09-10-02, 10:39 AM
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question about widescreen letter box

Just got my 42" samsung HDTV today

http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/na...4215WX%252fXAA

I have a progressive scan JVC DVD plugged into the component input

as far as I understand it when watching DVD on widescrren
the black bars should be gone
but when I was watching Gladiator I still see them
on my DVD player I set it to 16:9 auto
and my TV is on Wide mode and it says that I can't change it
if the source is component

any ideas?

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Old 09-10-02, 10:44 AM
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Whether or not the bars will be gone depends on the OAR of the film in question.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...reenorama.html

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Old 09-10-02, 11:13 AM
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thanks for that excellent link
this is the copy of Gladiator I have
it says Anamorphic widescreen
so should it have the bars?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...s=dvd&n=507846
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Old 09-10-02, 11:17 AM
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Aspect Ratio(s):
Widescreen anamorphic - 2.35:1

I believe this will on virtually any TV.
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Old 09-10-02, 11:20 AM
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The whole reason of getting a widescreen television is to get ride of black bars! We should petition them to crop 2.35:1 movies down to 1.77:1 for 16:9 televisions!
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hmm 2.35:1
according the guide it still needs the bars right?
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Old 09-10-02, 11:21 AM
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damn it, this means most of my movies will still have the freakin'
bars?
this pisses me off
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Gotta hate that OAR thingy.
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Old 09-10-02, 01:02 PM
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All 1.85:1 Anamorphic widescreen DVDs will not have the black bars on a 16:9 TV. All 2.35:1 Anamorphic widescreen DVDs will have black bars on a 16:9 TV, but the bars are considerably smaller than on a 4:3 set. If you watch mostly widescreen DVDs then you ahould be happy with your purchase. You get to use more of your screen than on a 4:3 set.

Besides, if they made 2.35:1 TVs then you would get bars on the sides of your image for everything that is not in 2.35:1. I think 16:9 is a good comprimise because most of my DVDs seem to be in 1.85:1 aspect ratio, but it kind of sucks that most of the big event films are 2.35:1. I'd still rather have the little black bars on my 16:9 TV than the big ones on a 4:3.

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Old 09-10-02, 01:14 PM
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1.85:1 = no black bars, whole screen filled
2.35:1 = small black bars on top & bottom
4:3 (ie: full screen, standard, pan & scan) = black bars on left & right, or a stretched picture
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Old 09-10-02, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by syphon00
damn it, this means most of my movies will still have the freakin'
bars?
this pisses me off
Some movies are photographed to be wider than other movies. It is an artistic decision. On home video, either you get black bars above and below the picture or you'll lose part of the movie off the sides.

The black bars are just a frame. They preserve the proper look for the movie. Learn to love them.

Hatred of black bars = ignorance.
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Hatred of black bars = ignorance.
Or maybe its just a preference, right!?

I've known plenty smart and open minded people who when educated about WS still wanted to watch FS.
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Or maybe its just a preference, right!?
No.

Not everything in life is a matter of preference. Some things are just wrong.

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Old 09-10-02, 05:57 PM
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My take on "preference", is that the filmmaker preferred a certain aspect ratio when he filmed the movie. Anything after that is mutilation.
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Old 09-10-02, 06:23 PM
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So Syphon, how do you like that Samsung 42"? Do you find it big enough? How is it for watching regular TV in full screen? Where did you buy and what did you pay? If you don't mind.
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Let me share my secret with you. I found that the key to enjoying the movie was to watch only the movie and not the black bars. In fact after staring at the bars for 4 consecutive hours, I can tell you that without a doubt, they do not move or do anything else worth watching. Once I got over that hurdle, I have never looked back (at the black bars that is)
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