Which is the better player? Malata 520 or JVC S500/502?
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Which is the better player? Malata 520 or JVC S500/502?
I already bought the Malata 520 but ended up giving it to my brother last week. Now I want to get it again, but I see that HKFLIX is having a deal on both of these dvd players. So which one is the better one? The price is around the same too. Any ideas? DVDtalk's email says that the JVC has all the features of the Malata except x-y scaling; what is x-y scaling and do i need it?
Dvdtalk's email makes it sound like the Malata is good mostly for anamorphic dvd's but not for non-anamorphic and the JVC is good for non-anamorphic but not for anamorphic. I obviously need a player that does both and hopefully does them both well.
Also are there features in the JVC that are not present in the Malata? Finally, is the JVC going to be covered under warranty (since it's region free and all)?
So which one should I buy?
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p.s.: I do have an HDTV, so I will probably be affected by this XY scaling at some point, but is it big enough of a problem to go with Malata instead of brand-name JVC?
Dvdtalk's email makes it sound like the Malata is good mostly for anamorphic dvd's but not for non-anamorphic and the JVC is good for non-anamorphic but not for anamorphic. I obviously need a player that does both and hopefully does them both well.
Also are there features in the JVC that are not present in the Malata? Finally, is the JVC going to be covered under warranty (since it's region free and all)?
So which one should I buy?
Thanks
H
p.s.: I do have an HDTV, so I will probably be affected by this XY scaling at some point, but is it big enough of a problem to go with Malata instead of brand-name JVC?
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Interested in the above question too. JVC is a reliable company PERIOD, Malata well......
So I'm ready to go with JVC.
The question is what is X Y scaling and will I miss it if using HDTV.
And of course if anybody owns the JVC please tell us about it.
So I'm ready to go with JVC.
The question is what is X Y scaling and will I miss it if using HDTV.
And of course if anybody owns the JVC please tell us about it.
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Response from HKFLIX.com
Hi folks. You may be interested in an email conversation I was having with Matt who runs loveandbullets.com (a HKFLIX partner site). In regards to X-Y scaling, he says:
"Basically, the X-Y scaling is great to have when you need it. The thing is that you may not ever really use it. The easiest way to describe would be to say that the feature comes in handy on the rare occasion when the pal to ntsc conversion isn't perfect. It also fixes flaws that are mastering problems. The POLICE STORY problem has never been confirmed as a conversion problem. It may have been part of the mastering process which would mean that even people who have PAL setups experience the problem. In either case, the Malata fixes it."
Also note that the Malata does have a few other features that I believe the JVC lacks, such as filters which can be applied to the image to correct conversion flaws.
The warranty on both these units are the same: 90 days labor/ 1 year parts. For both these units, if you require warranty service, you would return the player to us and we would repair or replace it. Since we've started selling these players about 6 weeks ago, we haven't had a single return or warranty claim.
If you have any other questions, just let me know.
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"Basically, the X-Y scaling is great to have when you need it. The thing is that you may not ever really use it. The easiest way to describe would be to say that the feature comes in handy on the rare occasion when the pal to ntsc conversion isn't perfect. It also fixes flaws that are mastering problems. The POLICE STORY problem has never been confirmed as a conversion problem. It may have been part of the mastering process which would mean that even people who have PAL setups experience the problem. In either case, the Malata fixes it."
Also note that the Malata does have a few other features that I believe the JVC lacks, such as filters which can be applied to the image to correct conversion flaws.
The warranty on both these units are the same: 90 days labor/ 1 year parts. For both these units, if you require warranty service, you would return the player to us and we would repair or replace it. Since we've started selling these players about 6 weeks ago, we haven't had a single return or warranty claim.
If you have any other questions, just let me know.
Cheers,
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So if I am watching dvd's only in progressive mode, the Malata is better? I can't imagine a situation where I wouldn't want to watch a dvd in progressive mode, since I do have an HDTV and all.
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Huzefa: From what I understand, progressive scan isn't an issue when deciding between the Malata and JVC. The issue is whether or not you need X-Y scaling. If you have a widescreen HDTV, this might be more of an issue than if you have a 4:3. Remember that the JVC does have a zoom feature, so you can scale non-anamorphic DVDs uniformly to fill a widescreen.
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Originally posted by HKFLIXdotcom
Huzefa: From what I understand, progressive scan isn't an issue when deciding between the Malata and JVC. The issue is whether or not you need X-Y scaling. If you have a widescreen HDTV, this might be more of an issue than if you have a 4:3. Remember that the JVC does have a zoom feature, so you can scale non-anamorphic DVDs uniformly to fill a widescreen.
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Huzefa: From what I understand, progressive scan isn't an issue when deciding between the Malata and JVC. The issue is whether or not you need X-Y scaling. If you have a widescreen HDTV, this might be more of an issue than if you have a 4:3. Remember that the JVC does have a zoom feature, so you can scale non-anamorphic DVDs uniformly to fill a widescreen.
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Originally posted by huzefa
So if I am watching dvd's only in progressive mode, the Malata is better?
So if I am watching dvd's only in progressive mode, the Malata is better?
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Originally posted by nekobus
Picture quality between the two is basically the same. Get the JVC if you don't need the scaling.
Picture quality between the two is basically the same. Get the JVC if you don't need the scaling.
Also, does somebody have a picture of the remote for the S500? Is it the same one as the one pictured on the JVC website?
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X-Y Scaling
huzefa: Let's say the conversion of an Anamorphic PAL disc is flawed. It comes out squished. You could use the X-Y scaling to correct the flaw. This isn't going to happen often, but it is possible. You can also use the X-Y scaling feature to eliminate overscan so you can see the entire picture. X-Y scaling only works on Anamorphic DVDs. The JVC has a more primitive "zoom" feature which can scale the picture uniformly to a number of presets. The JVC can "zoom" any DVD, anamorphic or not anamorphic, which is nice if you want to blow up the image of a non-anamorphic letterboxed DVD to cover a widescreen.
I'll try to get a picture of the JVC remote on our site.
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I'll try to get a picture of the JVC remote on our site.
Cheers!
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Re: X-Y Scaling
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X-Y scaling only works on Anamorphic DVDs.
X-Y scaling only works on Anamorphic DVDs.
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Re: X-Y Scaling
Originally posted by HKFLIXdotcom
huzefa: Let's say the conversion of an Anamorphic PAL disc is flawed. It comes out squished. You could use the X-Y scaling to correct the flaw. This isn't going to happen often, but it is possible. You can also use the X-Y scaling feature to eliminate overscan so you can see the entire picture. X-Y scaling only works on Anamorphic DVDs. The JVC has a more primitive "zoom" feature which can scale the picture uniformly to a number of presets. The JVC can "zoom" any DVD, anamorphic or not anamorphic, which is nice if you want to blow up the image of a non-anamorphic letterboxed DVD to cover a widescreen.
I'll try to get a picture of the JVC remote on our site.
Cheers!
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huzefa: Let's say the conversion of an Anamorphic PAL disc is flawed. It comes out squished. You could use the X-Y scaling to correct the flaw. This isn't going to happen often, but it is possible. You can also use the X-Y scaling feature to eliminate overscan so you can see the entire picture. X-Y scaling only works on Anamorphic DVDs. The JVC has a more primitive "zoom" feature which can scale the picture uniformly to a number of presets. The JVC can "zoom" any DVD, anamorphic or not anamorphic, which is nice if you want to blow up the image of a non-anamorphic letterboxed DVD to cover a widescreen.
I'll try to get a picture of the JVC remote on our site.
Cheers!
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huzefa, i don't have my Malata yet, but from what I understand there is NOT a standby mode. I have read on some forum (don't remember which) that the x-y scaling settings are NOT saved once you power off. Therefore, you will have to make adjustments each time you watch something.
Someon please correct me if this is not right.
Someon please correct me if this is not right.
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Originally posted by Kakkarat
huzefa, i don't have my Malata yet, but from what I understand there is NOT a standby mode. I have read on some forum (don't remember which) that the x-y scaling settings are NOT saved once you power off. Therefore, you will have to make adjustments each time you watch something.
Someon please correct me if this is not right.
huzefa, i don't have my Malata yet, but from what I understand there is NOT a standby mode. I have read on some forum (don't remember which) that the x-y scaling settings are NOT saved once you power off. Therefore, you will have to make adjustments each time you watch something.
Someon please correct me if this is not right.
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Will these players work ok on non-progressive mode? Can i hook the JVC to my non-hdtv RPTV with the conponent cables and get a good picture?
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Will these players work ok on non-progressive mode? Can i hook the JVC to my non-hdtv RPTV with the conponent cables and get a good picture?
Will these players work ok on non-progressive mode? Can i hook the JVC to my non-hdtv RPTV with the conponent cables and get a good picture?
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Note: that with the Malata, when you power down via the remote, the settings will be saved.
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Re: Malata
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Note: that with the Malata, when you power down via the remote, the settings will be saved.
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Note: that with the Malata, when you power down via the remote, the settings will be saved.
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What is the black level of either player? 0IRE or 7.5IRE? Or is black level selectable (is that even the right word)?
And how do you put the Malata DVP-520 in standby, as everywhere I've read it seems there's no standby button on this new model?
And how do you put the Malata DVP-520 in standby, as everywhere I've read it seems there's no standby button on this new model?
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Sorry!
Whoops! You guys are right. My apologies. I was looking at a 996 remote, I think. There is no standby button on the 520. Hopefully this is an issue that will be corrected in the next-generation Malata.
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how does the image quality of the interlaced output compare between the malata and the jvc? i would just be going out via s-video to a 27" sony. the post that says the malata is not good for non-anamorphic dvds makes me nervous -- is this a valid concern?
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The main benefit of x,y scaling for myself is for discs that are non-anamorphic. I have Toshiba 16:9 HDTV. I have a problem with many Hong Kong discs no matter which widescreen mode I use. If I get the dimensions of the picture close to correct, I can't read the subtitles. If I can see the subtitles The people are somewhat short, and squat. The scaling feature allows you to avoid this problem. The statement below is one I received in regards to a question I had on the difference between the JVC and the Malata from a guy who sells both.
"the reason x,y scaling was used on the Malata is because Pal anamorphic discs get stretched on NTSC TV's. With the x,y scaling in the Malata, you can fix this. Furthermore with the JVC, the converter built in does not stretch the picture. So you don't have any problems with the Pal anamorphic discs with the JVC."
Hope this helps.
James
"the reason x,y scaling was used on the Malata is because Pal anamorphic discs get stretched on NTSC TV's. With the x,y scaling in the Malata, you can fix this. Furthermore with the JVC, the converter built in does not stretch the picture. So you don't have any problems with the Pal anamorphic discs with the JVC."
Hope this helps.
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In regards to James' post above, both the Malata and JVC will correctly display anamorphic PAL DVDs in their correct aspect ratio. So X-Y scaling doesn't come into play here. Most other "universal" DVD players do stretch the image of anamorphic PAL discs, but the Malata and JVC do not.
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