16 X 9 Sony Wega squeeze... ?
I read wonderful things about the 16 X 9 squeeze on the bigger Wega models. Two questions for you experts... is this feature worth spending around $100? I watch a LOT of movies in letterbox. Is it noticeable?
The other question; when the Wega senses an incoming anamorphic signal, does it do this automatically, and then change back when it's done? Or is there some sort of button on the remote which toggles this? |
Re: 16 X 9 Sony Wega squeeze... ?
Originally posted by Llama I read wonderful things about the 16 X 9 squeeze on the bigger Wega models. Two questions for you experts... is this feature worth spending around $100? I watch a LOT of movies in letterbox. Is it noticeable? The other question; when the Wega senses an incoming anamorphic signal, does it do this automatically, and then change back when it's done? Or is there some sort of button on the remote which toggles this? On the lower price models (like what I have), you have to change it manually with the remote. Not a big deal, IMO. On the more expensive models, it is done automatically. |
I think it's at least noticeable... but I'm confused as to what you're concerned about spending $100 on. I have the lowest-end 32" WEGA, and it has the manual squeeze (as opposed to automatic). Doesn't take long at all, and if you have a learning remote of some sort, you could probably even set up a macro for it.
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Sorry, Static. I could have been more clear. I was referring to the $100 or so price difference between Sonys of that type and Toshibas, etc.
One more question: If there is an anamorphic movie, you do the squeeze, and there are subtitles located in the black bars, are they readable? It seems to me that they require some resolution to be legible; if the TV is using all resolution for the picture, won't the subtitles not appear? |
Llama:
subtitles will appear just as readable (or moreso) when using the squeeze than when downconverting. you have nothing to worry about :) |
16:9 enhanced mode is sweet, highly recommended if you watch a ton of DVDs, main reason why i chose Sony over panasonic
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Originally posted by Llama One more question: If there is an anamorphic movie, you do the squeeze, and there are subtitles located in the black bars, are they readable? It seems to me that they require some resolution to be legible; if the TV is using all resolution for the picture, won't the subtitles not appear? On non-anamorphic DVDs the subs will usually appear below the picture. The difference the 16:9 squeeze makes is incredible. I don't know if this has changed, but I couldn't use this feature without a Sony DVD player. And of course you have to use component video to take advantage of the sqeeze. Anyway, it's worth it. |
Just a clarification: You don't have to use a Sony DVD player. Any company's player that will output an anamorphic 16:9 signal will work (and basically all do).
I've had my Wega for almost 2 years, and absolutely love it. |
Originally posted by edclem Just a clarification: You don't have to use a Sony DVD player. Any company's player that will output an anamorphic 16:9 signal will work (and basically all do). Anyway, that's good to know that other players will work. I didn't mean to mislead, I just had a messed up player I guess. |
yea, well worth it. I use it w/ my Pioneer player (32 inch with auto squeeze).
-k ### |
Doesn't the squeeze cause a moderate distortion of the picture by stretching the picture vertically? My family just got a Pioneer RPTV that does a squeeze, and it isn't huge but is noticeable.
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I just got my 36" Wega today...and I'm confused. There is an obvious difference in picture quality when the squeeze is utilized. However, I'm not talking about the clarity. The picture seems to be squeezed too much such that some faces look smooshed. It makes the black bands a little thicker than they should be. My DVD player is set to 16x9 and the tv as well. As far as i know, every thing is set up right. Is this the way it's supposed to look?
What happens when you get DVD's that are anamorphically enhanced yet have an aspect ratio that is less than 1.85:1? |
Originally posted by greatjedi And of course you have to use component video to take advantage of the sqeeze. Anyway, it's worth it. more info 16:9 enhancement http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=139735 |
jkzahn and digitalfreaknyc:
I don't know what could be wrong. I've got a 36" Wega and a 27" Wega and they both do the squeeze perfectly (I'm very sensitive to distortion and it doesn't take much to bother me). |
Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc I just got my 36" Wega today...and I'm confused. There is an obvious difference in picture quality when the squeeze is utilized. However, I'm not talking about the clarity. The picture seems to be squeezed too much such that some faces look smooshed. It makes the black bands a little thicker than they should be. My DVD player is set to 16x9 and the tv as well. As far as i know, every thing is set up right. Is this the way it's supposed to look? What happens when you get DVD's that are anamorphically enhanced yet have an aspect ratio that is less than 1.85:1? |
found this site...
http://www.geocities.com/chuckster04...l?979881353830 he says that it solves the wega oversqueeze problem. |
<b>Digital Freak</b> Are you positive everything is set up right?
You have the DVD player set to output 16:9 instead of 4:3. that was my problem when I got my WEGA As for my .02 about WEGAs. WORTH EVERY PENNy |
Are there any sites that go thru the squeeze process step by step for those of us unlucky ones who bought a WEGA before the squeeze button was incorporated?
I bought a KV-36FS10 about a year before the separate squeeze button was introduced. (which really sucks!!!) I have seen a site or 2 (long ago) that gave some instructions but they were pretty confusing & sometimes scary (as in...this will probably screw up your TV). Has anyone else been in this situation or done this? Any help would be appreciated. |
new question...
when I change video modes, my 16X9 enhanced option changes also. I can set it to "on" in DVD mode, change to regular tuner, and when I get back to DVD, it is off. Can I do something so it stays on a particular video mode? |
Originally posted by BubbaX If you turn off the enhancement, is the picture distorted (ex. people look stretched out). If not, the DVD is probably not anamorphic just letterbox so the 16:9 feature will not work properly. The peoples faces look just slightly wider than they should be. |
Originally posted by Thunderball <b>Digital Freak</b> Are you positive everything is set up right? You have the DVD player set to output 16:9 instead of 4:3. that was my problem when I got my WEGA As for my .02 about WEGAs. WORTH EVERY PENNy |
Originally posted by BubbaX Although component video may offer a better picture, it is not a requirement. S-Video works just fine. more info 16:9 enhancement http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=139735 But with a HDTV monitor especially, using high quality componet video jacks are extremely recommended for enhancement to receive the best video reception as possible for: HD, DVD, or other digital equipment. You do NOT want to use: S-Video jacks on a HDTV monitor, only when you are connecting a VCR, or other non-digital hardware. and if your TV is not HD compatible, than S-Video jacks are fine, but then again, componet connecters are much better. |
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