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Old 07-06-07, 04:58 PM
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LOL @ Jedi. good idea.
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Originally Posted by JediJones
Wouldn't it be irrelevant though since when the ad comes out in 2 weeks there would still be enough time to return it or get a price adjustment?

If the heat comes down on Speedy, then he could always post "fictional" ads for stores such as Circuitous City, Least Buy, and Tarjay...completely unrelated to any real stores, living or otherwise.

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I always knew that Speedy was the man.
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you would think his posts are HELPING Them sell more product, i dont pick up newspapers, i just go on what i read here, and because of that i spend tons in stores.

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Old 07-06-07, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Well, in this particular situation I think Sony was hoping to get a few bucks out of people buying PS3's at the current price point. Also, I assume they were hoping to get the jump on Microsoft -- who now has more time to plan a response/pre-emptive strike.
Naw, I think they wanted to make a big announcement at E3.
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Originally Posted by bmvtoys
you would think his posts are HELPING Them sell more product, i dont pick up newspapers, i just go on what i read here, and because of that i spend tons in stores.

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Me as well. I'd likely not go in there much at all otherwise. Heck, I didn't go in much at all till I started lurking and posting here. I'd go in for X title and get out fast, end of story.

Admittedly I still essentially do that, but it's now titles A through X
Old 07-07-07, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by speedy1961
Nah.... I'm OK.

The Bloomberg News service contacted me regarding yesterday's story that I leaked. I'm going to try and assist the story................
I would think twice about that. You've seen how anal they are about the Black Friday ads.

If you need to disappear, i'm sure John would let you hide in his basement..
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Also, I assume they were hoping to get the jump on Microsoft -- who now has more time to plan a response/pre-emptive strike.
If Speedy knows of the possible price drop, then, it's a safe bet that a small, tiny corp like Microsoft already knows, too.
BTW, Speedy, great job in keeping us informed here at DVDTalk.
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Originally Posted by bmvtoys
you would think his posts are HELPING Them sell more product, i dont pick up newspapers, i just go on what i read here, and because of that i spend tons in stores.

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Yes, but you're applying logic to a large company....always a dangerous thing. Remember a couple of years ago when several big retailers started threatening to sue over early Black Friday ads? That didn't make much sense either.

Keep up the good work Speedy!
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Companies may not care much if Speedy posts run-of-the-mill weekly deals, but this is a big one. Sony will want to control how the price drop gets out to the public. There's a limited number of people that have access to these ads so early, so the hunt may be on.

Stay safe, Speedy!
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Originally Posted by Muddy Shores
Companies may not care much if Speedy posts run-of-the-mill weekly deals, but this is a big one. Sony will want to control how the price drop gets out to the public. There's a limited number of people that have access to these ads so early, so the hunt may be on.

Stay safe, Speedy!
This is my main concern as well.
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There is very little that any company can do about speedy1961 and his early release of any advertisements. The big reason is that he hand keys in all the info that he posts. The DMCA protects the copyrighted ad circulars/inserts but does NOT protect the contents from being disseminated as long as the copyright protected images are not scanned and posted. It is the images that are protected not the content. Speedy, you're safe; just don't expose yourself to unnessary risk (interviews).
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if anything, the stores should use speedy as their poster child. "Speedy's deal of the week". cut him a nice check.


Keep up the incredible work Speedy, i really appreciate it.
Old 07-07-07, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mosskeeto
There is very little that any company can do about speedy1961 and his early release of any advertisements. The big reason is that he hand keys in all the info that he posts. The DMCA protects the copyrighted ad circulars/inserts but does NOT protect the contents from being disseminated as long as the copyright protected images are not scanned and posted. It is the images that are protected not the content. Speedy, you're safe; just don't expose yourself to unnessary risk (interviews).
That's great and all if you can afford justice, but dvdtalk and other sites have folded under the pressure of threats of barrarty on this issue, they would probably do so again.
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I don't know if CAG would, they've fought a few times, but they've folded under other things before. Luckily I'm subscribed at both sites.
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Originally Posted by JediJones
Wouldn't it be irrelevant though since when the ad comes out in 2 weeks there would still be enough time to return it or get a price adjustment?

If the heat comes down on Speedy, then he could always post "fictional" ads for stores such as Circuitous City, Least Buy, and Tarjay...completely unrelated to any real stores, living or otherwise.
This is totally awesome!
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i would have only one thing on my mind right now. bitches bitches bitches
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I don't know if CAG would, they've fought a few times, but they've folded under other things before. Luckily I'm subscribed at both sites.
Any examples of CAG folding under certain pressure?
Old 07-08-07, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue588
I would think twice about that. You've seen how anal they are about the Black Friday ads.

If you need to disappear, i'm sure John would let you hide in his basement..

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Wow speedy, you broke the biggest story on the gadget sites this month! Good for you! (The carry-over from last month's iPhone release not withstanding )
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yeah, the $100 MSRP deduction is now official.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzz......
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Originally Posted by Mosskeeto
There is very little that any company can do about speedy1961 and his early release of any advertisements. The big reason is that he hand keys in all the info that he posts. The DMCA protects the copyrighted ad circulars/inserts but does NOT protect the contents from being disseminated as long as the copyright protected images are not scanned and posted. It is the images that are protected not the content. Speedy, you're safe; just don't expose yourself to unnessary risk (interviews).

I wouldn't say that. There's no real issue with copyright (and the DMCA isn't really relevant), but a person might lose his or her job. Anyone who has access to such information is limited, and if a company is upset that person may get the heave-ho.
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Originally Posted by Jericho
I wouldn't say that. There's no real issue with copyright (and the DMCA isn't really relevant), but a person might lose his or her job. Anyone who has access to such information is limited, and if a company is upset that person may get the heave-ho.
In previous instances (particularly Black Friday ads) the retailers and their lawyers went after the deal sites to get them to remove their scans using the threat of copyright infringement. Upon talking to their attorneys the deal sites did remove the scans but decided the hand keyed entries do not violate the law.
A lot of people have access to early ad copies after they leave the advertising companies and once they are printed then the numbers of eyes that see them escalate so it would be hard for anyone to trace the "leak" once they are in the distribution pipeline.

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