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The weird thing is, Marvel doesn't even publish Disney comics, they licensed it elsewhere, right?

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Right. They have licensed to Boom, Dark Horse, IDW, Tokyopop, Joe Books and Dynamite over the last 10 years.

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I see all the reactions to the latest issue of Spider-man, and I have to wonder... does everyone in editorial really just hate the Peter/MJ relationship or do they just love trolling the fans? It just all seems unnecessary, like taking the blueprint from Superman Returns and then running with it as if that wasn't the worst part of the movie.

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I saw something recently that this would be the most shocking revelation (or whatever) in the past 50 years of Spider-Man!!!1!! But I gave up on Spidey years ago. Although I'm curious as to what this shocking revelation might be. Could you spoilerize it? Pleeease?

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I don't think this issue was the shocking revelation (at least I hope not). From what I understand MJ asked Peter to move in with her, then there was some kind of time skip, Spider-man did something bad that we don't know yet (shades of that horrid Cyclops is mutant hitler storyline) and...




But I'm not actually spending four or five bucks or whatever a month to read this so maybe someone who is can give a better synopsis.

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"One More Day" pretty much ended my decades-long fandom of Marvel Comics and I've heard nothing since justifying my return. What has it been now, fifteen years? They ruined Spider-Man, which is why they now have dozens of spider people running around. I guess I will always have the Silver and Bronze age comics.

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Dan Slott mentioned recently that keeping Peter and MJ apart is an strict editorial mandate from the top that he had to work with. Quesada (brains behind One More Day) isn't in the company anymore, so this is coming strictly from either Perlmutter or Kevin Feige. Spider-Man sales have been up and down (mostly down) since Civil War and One More Day. The best stories of Peter in the 616 universe over that time has been the Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Verse storylines. Everything else that has been good about Spidey has taken place outside the 616 universe (Miles, Renew Your Vows, New Avengers, Spider-Man and the X-Men). Until the editorial mandate changes, stories like the one that just came out are going to continue. The mentality is that when they finally reunite Peter and MJ, it will be this glorious big event. My question is, will anyone care by that point? How many readers would Marvel have lost by then? It's been almost 20 years since Civil War, and Spider-Man/MJ fans have been jerked around enough. If the company's plan is to reunite Peter and MJ in 2027 (20 years after One More Day and around the time the MCU will probably reunite them too), then they have a long way to go trying not to piss off Spider-Man fans even more.

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The problem is that right before this they basically almost had them together. I would be fine if they wanted to keep Peter single, but they tease and tease and tease and at some point (long ago) it just feels like trolling.

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I’m one that goes with an open mind to every book I read but I simply don’t understand why Marvel is doing this to the main Spider-Man. Besides Spider-Man joining the New Avengers, the Spider-Verse storyline, his improved relationship with Venom and Doc Ock taking over during the Superior Spider-Man story, I have hated with a passion everything else done with the character over the past 20 years. Almost everything from the stupid Civil War identity reveal to One More Day to Brand New Day to whatever the hell they are doing now is not only awful but it’s making people hate the book. In addition, the artwork has been simply atrocious. Liefeld gets a lot of flack about his drawing skills but JRJR has regressed to the point he shouldn’t be doing any mainstream book unless he has a great inker and an editor to hold back his worst impulses. Apparently, the current storyline is building up for everyone to hate the writers and the book, which makes me wonder if they know they are in the business to sell books. DC pulled a stunt like this in 2019 with the whole Batman/Catwoman wedding and it backfired so bad that the main Batman boom still hasn’t recovered sales wise.

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They must have a bet going to see how far they can troll Spider-man fans to finally get them to stop collecting. Hasn't worked yet, people value their continuous runs and love Spider-man too much to stop reading (I guess).

The ridiculous part is that this is a drip feed of info that everyone already knows because this is set in the past, and we're still trying to get how Spider-man became hated.

The other ridiculous part is that I swear the reason given for wanting Spider-man to be single is to have him be more relatable to the audience, and yet try to read a synopsis of this story and see how relatable it is.

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The whole thing of keeping him single and a failure in life is stupid. A character, specially after 60 years, has to evolve in life. Like Superman, there is a lot of life and stories after getting married and having kids. Peter Parker should have had that, as it worked on the Spider-Girl series, it worked again in Renew Your Vows and it worked in Dark Ages. Peter Parker evolves and there still a young one running around named Miles Morales and another one coming in May Parker. The biggest problem with Marvel and DC books over the past 25 years is that they stopped growing and made it worse by going back to things of the past trying to cater readers in their 50s instead of younger readers

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The spoilers are out there right now for Amazing Spider-Man 26 and it’s just ridiculous how they want to make readers mad. Spoiler below

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rotfl

People still keep falling for this shit? Thirty years ago when "The Death of Superman" was all over the evening news I knew they were already planning on bringing him back.

And I'm sure that

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The story doesn't even "earn" that surprise. At all. Like no hints, no build up, just that? What the hell is going on over there?

Of course this is probably just a really, really, really stupid way


On the bright side

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Wow. It took 50 years for me to be this shocked? Glad I quit after One More Day! :lol:

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ROM returns to Marvel!!

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I'm in for the Rom Omnibi! I've been hoping for Epic Collections, but I'll be fine with Omnibi!

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Count me in! This was Mantlo in his prime. I don't expect much out of comics based on toys but he hit it out of the park with Rom and those early Micronauts comics. I was very slowly picking up back issues of Rom but I guess I can move on to another title now.

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The Micronauts return!

Twitter

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Kinda surprised no one has brought this up. Do you really think it is permanent or is this just click-bait?

“The Punisher Is No More”: Marvel Officially Gets Rid Of Its Most Controversial Character (msn.com)

The only reason I wouldn't be surprised if he was officially retired is due to the various extremist groups and others adopting his logo for shitty purposes.

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Yeah, that's one big problem for Disney/Marvel right there. They allowed the character and its logo to become a symbol for things like police brutality and extreme right-wing politics. I was always kind of surprised that they never protected the trademark and allowed so much unlicensed merchandise using the skull logo to be sold. Hell, even the "American Sniper" guy used the skull in the logo for his security training company.

They probably should have had the Punisher go "woke" and start targeting crooked/racist cops, protecting minorities/immigrants, and going after right-wing extremists. Still the same brutal Punisher, but he just changed his focus on a new enemy.

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Click-bait, is my vote. After reading a couple articles on it, the events in the story sound creative or editorially driven, not corporate. Which means that he'll be back as the Punisher with the Punisher logo (or someone else will) sooner or later, as the story or sales dictates.

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It's not even the first (or even third) stupid misuse of the character. Not even his first death.

There was that story where everything to him was a crime and he'd go berserk. That was cos the writer hated Punisher. Later it was retconned to be that Frank had been drugged. There was also that dumbass Punisher as an angel storyline. And Frankencastle. Heck, he even once got surgery to pull a Soul Man. All those were eventually retconned. This will be too.

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Death of the Venomverse 1-5 is coming starting in August. There will be 5 variant connecting covers for these books and my shop told me book 1 is 1:50 and books 2-5 are 1:10. Is this something they normally do? Can anyone recommend sites to buy the 1:50 ratio book or is ebay likely my best choice? My shop is fairly small and wont be ordering anywhere near that many and I dont really have much experience trying to purchase online. I am not really sure where to look.

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Try bigtimecollectibles.com. They are listing a buttload of covers for this title, but I'm not sure they have the connecting covers. But - they frequently get exclusives and announce when you can order them. I've picked up a few DC variant covers that way recently. Some sold out quick, so ya gotta be on the ball. Sign up to get their emails and you'll be notified about upcoming events. Not saying they'll have 'em, but it's one possible option.

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Your local shop is confused. The connecting covers has two types, each for issues 1-5. The first is the 1:10 variant, where the covers have the normal trade dress (book logo, publisher logo, price, UPC, etc.). The second is the 1:50 variant which are virgin covers (just the art).

So, yeah, they should be able to get you the 1:10 connecting variant for the first issue as well as the others. Otherwise, yes, you can look on eBay, but keep in mind, prices on eBay for those variants are usually highest during the pre-order and newly on-sale phases. I find that they usually drop after a few months.

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As many suspected, Kamala Khan is being resurrected as a mutant. The new series will be written by Kamala Khan herself, Iman Vellani.

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And seems like she kept her old powers (adding on the MCU light powers, I'd guess)

It's kind of amazing to me how quickly we went from "screw the X-men" to "screw the Inhumans."

edited to add:
Ok, so they're keeping the Inhuman origins but making her (also) a mutant, not changing her powers, but cool that they got Iman I guess?

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Sincere question here since I don't read Marvel anymore - is Ms Marvel popular with comic fans? Or is this more about the shiny new thing since the MCU is pushing her?

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Kamala Khan was pretty big deal when she was introduced about ten years ago. Her book was at least a cult hit, attracted media attention, and drew in non-traditional readers that the big companies are always chasing after.

The character sort of slipped into the background noise of the Marvel Universe once her original writer left her book.

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Wonder if there's anyone who didn't see that coming when they killed her off last month. :lol:

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Similar to Miles Morales and Jeff the LandShark, Kamala has a huge cult following of the new generation of readers, which is what the industry needs. And similar to Miles and Carol Danvers,
her popularity has attracted the worst gatekeeping misogynistic racist trolls that the shitty social media era can get. As someone who’s read her books and most of her appearances throughout the Marvel Universe, I can honestly say that Kamala is great and I’m glad Iman is writing her, as she is almost a living personification of the character. Both of them are exactly what this industry needs

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This.
Also before her death she didn't have a solo ongoing but I'm not sure if that was indicative of her popularity or just the powers that be wanting to shoe her into this Spider-man story (which was still really crappily done even if it was the plan)

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I don't know. Like Carol Danvers she can't maintain a solo book. How many relaunches and number 1 issues have both of them had over the last 10 years.

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Again I'm not sure what kind of measure that is. Besides legacy titles which depend on numbering almost every title/character does this at Marvel.

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The relaunched are done throughout the entire Marvel Universe, whether is Ms Marvel or Spider-Man or the X-Men or Hulk. In the past 10 years, Ms Marvel had one of the few longest running series in the company that lasted 38 issues and 4 years running. Relaunches are tied now to change in creative teams, not sales. In the past 10 years, Spider-Man has been relaunched 4 times already. Just creative team changing. Same with Daredevil, Hulk and Miles Morales. Thor has had even more relaunches. The same with Carol Danvers. They are popular characters and they sell. What ruins everything for them is shitty social media trolls. Stupid guys who are better out of the comic book industry themselves. I mean, I would love to see 100 girls like Iman hitting the comic book shops weekly than these basement dweller neckbeards that haven’t seen their dicks in decades. It’s similar to the assholes on social media that troll every single post that has to do with female sports.