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Old 09-17-16, 07:44 PM
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I think it's mostly excitement about DC Rebirth. I was seriously contemplating getting back into monthly comics after reading a few of the number ones. I plan to pick up most of the Rebirth trades when they come out.
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Old 09-17-16, 08:30 PM
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Brian Hibbs has a rebuttal to the article posted in the OP, from the retailer side. Apparently comic book resources doesn't have columns anymore so he moved to comicsbeat:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at...out-nighthawk/

I didn't realize that most DC comics are a full dollar cheaper than the average Marvel title.
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Old 09-18-16, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Brian Hibbs has a rebuttal to the article posted in the OP, from the retailer side. Apparently comic book resources doesn't have columns anymore so he moved to comicsbeat:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at...out-nighthawk/

I didn't realize that most DC comics are a full dollar cheaper than the average Marvel title.
He makes some interesting points about the death of newsstand comics delivery I hadn't heard before. The mob was heavily into it and the industry wanted to stop dealing with them. Also the death of local mom 'n pop drug stores killed the number of outlets as corporate chains took the market over.
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Old 09-20-16, 07:05 PM
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Another one....

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/09/...ve-bankruptcy/
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Old 09-21-16, 03:40 AM
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If you read a lot of the comments on these articles, a lot of people feel that Marvel is losing people by focusing on side characters and charging four bucks a pop for them. But that is exactly what diversity is, so you don't end up with everything just related to Spider-man and Batman, etc.

That Champions number is insane, though, apparently because of a huge Scholastic order that is no doubt returnable. But if it can interest even a few kids... Heck I ordered it in last month's order.
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Old 09-21-16, 08:15 AM
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Lol Rich is such a dip shit. I cant tell if he is insulting or praising DC here. "DC is creatively bankrupt and Marvel is diversified blah blah." No, DC has finally found what works for them.
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Old 09-21-16, 11:42 AM
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The question is, how long is it gonna work? I do hope it gives Marvel a wake up call on the price of their books, though. I also think the absence of anything X related has something to do with it too. But we'll see, before new 52 I was the biggest DC fanboy around, and I hope they do great things (or at least well enough that I can get a decent Legion book again).
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Old 09-23-16, 03:23 PM
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Marvel is little more than a vanity press now for Disney's movie division. I don't think Disney cares much about Marvel Comic's actual profitability. Throw in and print as many diverse characters as possible, to give the movie division cover when they make the Mandarin something else.
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Old 09-24-16, 10:10 PM
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Maybe Marvel & DC should try to get their comics into newsstands, drugstores, & other mainstream stores again. Just to see if it works. If it doesn't then stop it in a year. Maybe not send out the entire selection of monthly books but the books of the most prominent heroes that kids would be familiar with. Probably characters that were featured in films/shows.

Grocery stores would be the idea place to put a spinner. Everyone has to go to grocery stores. Many of the ones around here have a decent magazine section so its not like they couldn't find a spot for some comics. Walmarts would also be ideal. Pretty much everyone goes there.

When I was younger, my city had 1 comic store and it was way out of the way. I might convince my family to take a trip there ever 2 months. Thankfully, comics were still everywhere so I could go to the bookstore in the mall (B Dalton I think - remember those?). Even the drug store in my tiny little two carried comics. I really just got Transformers and GIJoe monthly so I could always get issues.

There was the boom of comic stores were most malls had one but now a days, we are back to the comic stores being few and far between. In my city, there are a couple but they are not located near the big mall/retail centers. If I relied on getting rides, it would again be an out of the way, once in awhile trip to one.
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Old 09-25-16, 02:55 PM
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I get the feeling the industry will have to change up its current model as the print side shrinks.

I think we'll see things like trades collecting 3-4 issues much quicker than we get these days. In fact, that may become the floppy of the future. Individual issues may go away.
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Old 09-25-16, 03:25 PM
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I get the feeling the industry will have to change up its current model as the print side shrinks.

I think we'll see things like trades collecting 3-4 issues much quicker than we get these days. In fact, that may become the floppy of the future. Individual issues may go away.
It's bad enough it's hard to get a complete story with modern decompressed writing in a 5 to 6 issue trade, especially when issues are down to 20 or less pages per issue.

This uptick in 4 issue trades is alarming to a trade waiter like me. I don't know how single issue readers do it.

If trades continue to shrink, I will just discontinue buying normal trades and hold out for premium trades like complete collections, deluxe editions, omnibuses, etc. And if the publishers never put out those premium trades, then I'll either read digitally one of these days, or just not read their product at all.
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Old 09-25-16, 07:50 PM
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Marvel started doing this years ago with the four issue collections, I remember picking up Peter David's X Factor and when I realized this was happening, I stopped cold turkey. And all of their worthwhile stuff gets collected again and again: usually a small hardcover when the run is hot (and you're really dumb if you buy these because they will eventually drop it), softcovers, larger collections, then an omnibus if it's any good. If it's not good or worthwhile, oh well who cares? It's like they've conditioned me to wait and wait and wait, and if you do that, people will move on or lose interest.

As long as they have a devoted fanbase addicted to monthly buying, that will remain the norm because they can milk the fanbase with new number ones and alternate covers and whatever, and despite the complaining the fans will eat it. The fanbase won't grow that way, but the money is still coming in.

As far as getting comic racks back in grocery stores... How? Just take a gigantic loss and pay the grocery stores through the nose with full returnability? There are comics in Toys R Us, in Walmarts, etc., and I bet they barely move the needle.
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Old 09-26-16, 01:36 AM
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DC is changing things up a bit for Rebirth. The trade paperbacks are coming out first before the presumed hardcovers. If you are someone waiting on Rebirth hardcovers, it could be a long time.

All I would ask Marvel and DC to do is place one spinner rack of trades in general retail stores like Walmart and Best Buy. I have no delusion that newsstand distribution is coming back in any form.

The exposure alone to new customers is worth it even if the idea isn't completely profitable. Chalk it up as an advertising expense.
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Old 02-09-18, 11:07 PM
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DC Comics stopped doing newsstand edition for their books on August of last year, so now the big two are officially off the newsstand market.
http://blog.comichron.com/2018/02/en...nd-issues.html

Marvel has a digest book on the shelves every quarter but that is being released by Archie Comics. Other than that, both Marvel and DC have tried to sell books in 3-5 packs at places like Wal-Mart, Ollies and Five Below to mixed results.
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