Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
#26
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
What about a third company that would deal only in reprints from defunct comic book companies(as long as the rights where available)? I could see a market for hard cover books and omnibuses but as far as reprinted comic books ,that would be the big question.
#27
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Isn't that kind of what Fantagraphics does with it's Carl Barks collections, Peanuts, etc? They're not exactly abandoned properties or anything, but then again if there were any defunct comic book companies with the rights out there and there was money to be made, someone would have snapped it up already, I think. Occasionally companies will try to resurrect the old properties: Dark Horse with the Gold Key stuff done by Shooter, DC with their Impact line resurrecting the Archie superheroes, etc., but none really had any legs unless integrated into bigger universes (the Charlton and Fawcett characters in DC, Gold Key characters in early Valiant, etc.)
#28
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
I can't even think of a comic book where the rights aren't owned by a current company where there's been any kind of sizable demand for reprinting.
#29
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I don't really think of characters like Cable and Gambit as 'new' characters because they're X-Men, and don't really have any impact or appeal outside of that franchise. X-Men has a history of introducing new characters into the mix; some of them catch on more than others, but they never really move beyond the franchise.
Deadpool is kind of marginal because he did debut in New Mutants, but he's really grown beyond the X-Books.
Deadpool is kind of marginal because he did debut in New Mutants, but he's really grown beyond the X-Books.
#30
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Wolverine sort of has moved beyond X-Men with him being an Avenger & getting tons of merchandise. He can appear in stuff without any other connections to X-Men.
Ninja Turtles are characters that were not DC/Marvel that are still hugely popular today. Spawn might have been big in the 90's but nobody gives a crap about him for a decade or more.
Ninja Turtles are characters that were not DC/Marvel that are still hugely popular today. Spawn might have been big in the 90's but nobody gives a crap about him for a decade or more.
#31
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Usually the characters from defunct publishers that aren't owned by someone are those in the public domain since those are usually the golden age comic books. I think various groups have tried to do reprints and various creators have tried to relaunch/reinvent various public domain characters. But there's just not a huge market for those characters. The most popular golden age characters are owned by Marvel/DC and they've already released plenty of reprints of those materials. I think more recent defunct publishers had the rights to their characters sold to other publishers or the rights reverted back to the creators.
I can't even think of a comic book where the rights aren't owned by a current company where there's been any kind of sizable demand for reprinting.
I can't even think of a comic book where the rights aren't owned by a current company where there's been any kind of sizable demand for reprinting.
I would assume that DC owns all the Hanna Barbera characters ,but not sure.
#32
Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Ninja Turtles are characters that were not DC/Marvel that are still hugely popular today.
#33
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Usually the characters from defunct publishers that aren't owned by someone are those in the public domain since those are usually the golden age comic books. I think various groups have tried to do reprints and various creators have tried to relaunch/reinvent various public domain characters. But there's just not a huge market for those characters. The most popular golden age characters are owned by Marvel/DC and they've already released plenty of reprints of those materials. I think more recent defunct publishers had the rights to their characters sold to other publishers or the rights reverted back to the creators.
I can't even think of a comic book where the rights aren't owned by a current company where there's been any kind of sizable demand for reprinting.
I can't even think of a comic book where the rights aren't owned by a current company where there's been any kind of sizable demand for reprinting.
#34
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Just about every tv show from the 1960s had a comic book(some only a few issues). Don't know if a revival of or release of the tv show would help in the revival of a comic book. These were mostly published by Dell and Gold Key.
I would assume that DC owns all the Hanna Barbera characters ,but not sure.
I would assume that DC owns all the Hanna Barbera characters ,but not sure.
#35
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Image Comics Publisher Eric Stephenson: "We Want to Be Number One"
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=49889
The past year has seen Image further cement their position in the industry -- this past November, Diamond's numbers showed a 9.77 percent unit market share for Image, up from 6.67 percent in November 2012. Yet Image Comics publisher Eric Stephenson (himself the writer of an acclaimed Image series, "Nowhere Men") isn't content with being number three behind work-for-hire superhero stalwarts Marvel and DC Comics: He wants Image to be number one.
#36
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Image Comics Publisher Eric Stephenson: "We Want to Be Number One"
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=49889
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=49889
While these events don't happen that often, just the fact DC and Marvel can publish multiple titles with the same popular character (see Batman and Wolverine) will make it hard for anyone to compete.
Unless Image starts publishing like 5 more Walking Dead titles, I don't see them ever gaining true market share.
#37
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Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Image used to be more of a shared universe and did a bunch of crossovers in the early days, but then it became more and more splintered and focused on creator owned titles.
#38
DVD Talk Legend
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Good for them. If anyone is gonna do it it's gonna be Image. There push on creator owned titles are some of the best things on the market in recent years.
#39
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Will we ever see Marvel/DC get a third competitor?
Invincible has had several spinoffs but nothing really lasting, so I don't think they're going to create a big superhero universe (they tried that again when Invincible first launched). Their strength is obviously creator owned stuff. The hard part about that is the lack of cross pollination, plus the lack of strong, long lasting brands which the big 2 are swimming in. The best part about it is that for many top creators, the big 2 is a way to get their names out there and they save their best stuff for the content they own, and you can see the results in the quality of the work. But yeah, when one property like Walking Dead makes it big, it doesn't cross pollinate into the rest.