mrhan

I don't think it's less cartoony because both Aparo and Novick admitted they tried to ape Adams realistic style in the early 70's to keep the look consistent in the Batman books.

slop101

I meant his later work looks less cartoony - I also don't care for his aping of Adams and thought he came into his own better. Of course I think Adams is a better overall artist, but in my mind, Aparo's later work is the definitive Batman.

ytrez

I'll have to check out those issues. I checked some death in the family issues this weekend and determined that I wasn't too harsh on DeCarlo's inks. Still hate them with a passion.

dishpan

only 3 votes for jim lee =|

madcougar

^^^^^^^^
Not to take anything away from Jim Lee but this piece benefits a TON from Travis Charest's inks.

dishpan

cool

i dont know enough about inking to be able to tell that

Travis McClain

I just don't think of Batman when I think of Jim Lee, or vice versa. His Bat-work came after I bailed on reading comics regularly. I still think of him as an X-Men artist.

fujishig

Jim Lee inked by Charest? That must have taken a year to do...

madcougar

You can read more about this at bleedingcool.

stingermck

After just re-reading Knightfall, I have to pick Breyfogle. His 90's work was always dynamic.

Trevor

Interesting stuff. I'm always curious as to how much an inker's work can change the original pencils. Would love to see more comparisons of multiple inkers takes on the same pencils.

fujishig

When Kevin Nowlan inks, for instance, you can see his style clearly over the pencils.

mrhan

I like Jim Lee's art but his Batman is boring. He always looks stiff. I did a search and basically he is always drawing the Batman in almost the same pose over and over. Check out the link. I know there are repeats in there but overall it's the same shit. There's no sense of motion, urgency or movement.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...8&fr=yfp-t-544

fujishig

I would have to check, but most of those images are the pinup/poster variety, so they only show Batman in stoic, front facing poses. I get what you're saying, though.

The real problem with Lee's popularity as a Batman artist? His association with Miller in All Star Batman and Robin.

PhantomStranger

Jim Lee's Batman is too bulky for the character. The chest-to-waist ratio is way too high, it makes him look like a bodybuilder who only cares about bench pressing. Any good superhero would know the bench press is one of the least applicable exercises possible to athletic movements like punching and kicking.

ytrez

I'm a bit of an inking nerd so...

I'm sure this isn't typical of the pencils Scott Williams gets from Jim Lee routinely but I think it shows just how much an inker can bring to the table:

http://comicsinkers.blogspot.com/200...n-jim-lee.html

Here are various inkers working on a Wolverine cover:
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=80971

Trevor

^ Neat stuff. Good to see the "tracers" getting some love.

mrhan

Here's some inks by Williams' over Adams' pencils. Odyssey was a POS but the artwork was awesome.

http://toyinspire.blogspot.com/2010/...omic-book.html

davidh777

At one of my LCSs, I saw that they've released the Neal Adams Batman vol. 1 in paperback. I never got the hardback so might pick this up.

But I see there's also a "Kindle edition," which appears to be a Kindle fire edition, which is kind of cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Illustr.../dp/B008NFNXMG

Supermallet

I really love Tim Sale's take on the Bat-world. He gets my vote.