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whotony 11-17-14 02:55 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
The new Gaiman story won't appear until 2016, is that what I'm reading?

So it will be 7 years after they get the rights until new material.

majorjoe23 11-17-14 07:35 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12304671)
The new Gaiman story won't appear until 2016, is that what I'm reading?

So it will be 7 years after they get the rights until new material.

Sounds about right, I think 13 is the most recent issue out, there's the annual in December, then three more Moore issues, nine previously printed Gaiman issues and the finished, but never printed issue.

That takes things into 2016 easy.

The Valeyard 11-17-14 04:11 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
It's possible that Marvel will dual-solicit Gaiman's run (two a month) to bring new Gaiman stuff sooner. But based on how smoothly Sandman: Overture has been going, that probably won't happen.

Maybe Marvel will release the Miracleman: Apocrypha mini-series to give Gaiman more time to get his last portion of the series done? There was also another mini that Eclipse never released (Miracleman Triumphant). Plenty of stuff to let Neil catch up.

What's left of his run anyways? The remainder of the Silver Age (3 more chapters after the never-before printed issue) and then the six-part Dark Age. That's 9 issues. Should be finished by 2019. Maybe.

Josh-da-man 11-19-14 07:58 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 12304671)
The new Gaiman story won't appear until 2016, is that what I'm reading?

Looks that way. #15 is solicited for February. Coming out at one per month, that would put #24 at November 2015. If they take December off again (there's a special annual solicited for this December that features the "lost" Grant Morrison story illustrated by Joe Quesada and a new story from Peter Milligan and Mike Allred) that means #25 is on track for January 2016.


Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 12305382)
It's possible that Marvel will dual-solicit Gaiman's run (two a month) to bring new Gaiman stuff sooner. But based on how smoothly Sandman: Overture has been going, that probably won't happen.

Maybe Marvel will release the Miracleman: Apocrypha mini-series to give Gaiman more time to get his last portion of the series done? There was also another mini that Eclipse never released (Miracleman Triumphant). Plenty of stuff to let Neil catch up.

What's left of his run anyways? The remainder of the Silver Age (3 more chapters after the never-before printed issue) and then the six-part Dark Age. That's 9 issues. Should be finished by 2019. Maybe.

Yeah, Gaiman still has nine issues to write unless something has changed. Also heard that Buckingham wants to re-ink 23-24-25.

With all of the lead time, I would hope that Neil and Mark will have enough time to get a good head start.

I love Neil, and he seems like a good fellow, but he seems to have made kind of a mess out of Sandman Overture's release schedule.

I wouldn't object at all to another Apocrypha series. There are plenty of creators out there who could have a bit of fun with character.

The Valeyard 03-04-15 02:07 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
So Sandman: Overture still hasn't been completed and Marvel just announced that they are re-starting Miracleman with a fresh new #1 for Gaiman's run sometime in 2015. The "Original Writer's" last issue was released today.

PhantomStranger 03-04-15 02:33 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
It's okay to say Alan Moore's name. It wouldn't surprise me if Disney eventually turns this into a film.

Josh-da-man 03-04-15 02:47 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 12413333)
So Sandman: Overture still hasn't been completed and Marvel just announced that they are re-starting Miracleman with a fresh new #1 for Gaiman's run sometime in 2015. The "Original Writer's" last issue was released today.

Well, shit. That's going to fuck up my numbering. I already own the original Eclipse Miracleman #1-24 comic books, and I was going to start buying the Marvel editions with #25. Figured something was up when the solicitations stopped at #16.

This is going to end up being another Sandman Overture, isn't it?

Now it's not surprising that Neil Gaiman was defending George R. R. Martin and his slow output a few years ago.

The Valeyard 03-04-15 06:50 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 12413373)
This is going to end up being another Sandman Overture, isn't it?

Oh, yeah. There's no doubt about it.

PhantomStranger 03-05-15 12:21 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 12413373)
Well, shit. That's going to fuck up my numbering. I already own the original Eclipse Miracleman #1-24 comic books, and I was going to start buying the Marvel editions with #25. Figured something was up when the solicitations stopped at #16.

This is going to end up being another Sandman Overture, isn't it?

Now it's not surprising that Neil Gaiman was defending George R. R. Martin and his slow output a few years ago.

Marvel loves their #1 issues. I'm surprised they haven't moved all their issues to being #1 of volume X.:lol:

Solid Snake 03-05-15 01:30 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
hrmmmmm.

The Valeyard 04-29-15 02:27 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
The official title for Gaiman's run is MIRACLEMAN BY GAIMAN & BUCKINGHAM with a new #1 on September 2nd.


It was the series that changed comics forever. And at long last – it will be completed. This September, a tale that began 25 years ago will finally be told in MIRACLEMAN BY GAIMAN & BUCKINGHAM #1! Visionary comic legends Neil Gaiman (Sandman, 1602) & Mark Buckingham (Fables) bring you a new Age of Miracles and a story of epic proportions! Kicking off The Golden Age storyline and then continuing into the unfinished The Silver Age & The Dark Age arcs, Gaiman & Buckingham’s lost Miracleman story will finally see the light of day!

Uttering a single, long-forgotten word, Michael Moran transformed from the ordinary into the extraordinary – and Miracleman was born! Years out of print and left unfinished, Marvel Comics is pleased to bring these iconic and trailblazing stories back to print for an entirely new generation of fans. Now is the chance to jump on board one of the most groundbreaking stories in comics history before these two industry titans bring you the cataclysmic conclusion to their famously unfinished storyline!

"That Neil and Bucky can finally finish the story they started, is a great relief to still-gasping fans — myself among them," says Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso.

Gaiman and Buckingham reunite with series colorist D’Israeli and award-winning letterer Todd Klein to create the definitive Miracleman. Each issue has been remastered directly from the original artwork and will feature extensive additional content including scripts, original art, sketches, rare promotional pieces — and more! Look for this exciting jumping on point this September 2nd when MIRACLEMAN BY GAIMAN & BUCKINGHAM #1 comes to comic shops!

Solid Snake 04-29-15 02:35 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
I remember when Wizard brought up a list of like the craziest/extreme/whatever in comics. I was like mid teens. Anyway... they mentioned this character and Moore's run. Since that time and ESPECIALLY the past 2 years I've collected all those mentioned in the listing. Preacher, Authority, etc. Miracleman was the one that I couldn't get cuz of the rights. Now that we've got him back... I'm iffy on getting the 3 books that were Moore's run. They're rather expensive for so little quantity of work in there.

Do you guys think they'll collect all of Moore's run w/ MM? I'm like close to breaking down and buying them. Just to have it finally. It has teased my imagination so much. Even reading about it doesn't satisfy me. It just really intrigues me w/ wtf happens in there.

majorjoe23 04-29-15 03:03 PM

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There will be an omnibus for sure. Likely one for Moore and one for Gaiman.

Trevor 04-29-15 03:15 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
I have all the original Warrior and then Eclipse issues. They were amazing. In my top five comic stories of all-time probably.

Solid Snake 04-29-15 03:50 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
I'm still so behind on reading certain things. Never have read Moore's Swamp Thing. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. etc etc. Dunno why I didn't go after them before. I just mostly focused on other things.

ytrez 04-30-15 07:07 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12467253)
I have all the original Warrior and then Eclipse issues. They were amazing. In my top five comic stories of all-time probably.

I've got the Warrior issues, the Eclipse issues, the Marvel issues, the Marvel Premiere hardcover collections, the Marvel Classic MM hardcovers, and I'll likely end up ordering the inevitable Omnibus too. Overkill I know. I'm a huge fan of Moore's run on the series and much less so of Gaiman's. But I'm sure I'll get those too.

ytrez 04-30-15 07:08 AM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12467298)
I'm still so behind on reading certain things. Never have read Moore's Swamp Thing. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. etc etc. Dunno why I didn't go after them before. I just mostly focused on other things.

League is okay but you've got to read those Swamp Thing issues. I haven't re-read them but it was great reading those every month when they were released.

PhantomStranger 04-30-15 02:26 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12467176)
I remember when Wizard brought up a list of like the craziest/extreme/whatever in comics. I was like mid teens. Anyway... they mentioned this character and Moore's run. Since that time and ESPECIALLY the past 2 years I've collected all those mentioned in the listing. Preacher, Authority, etc. Miracleman was the one that I couldn't get cuz of the rights. Now that we've got him back... I'm iffy on getting the 3 books that were Moore's run. They're rather expensive for so little quantity of work in there.

Do you guys think they'll collect all of Moore's run w/ MM? I'm like close to breaking down and buying them. Just to have it finally. It has teased my imagination so much. Even reading about it doesn't satisfy me. It just really intrigues me w/ wtf happens in there.

Alan Moore brilliantly deconstructs the Shazam/Captain Marvel concept in Miracleman. Miracleman was basically a cheap British clone of Captain Marvel until Moore got his hands on him.

Josh-da-man 04-30-15 03:03 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
Required Alan Moore reading:

Miracleman
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
Swamp thing
From Hell
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vol. 1 and 2
Promethea

Solid Snake 04-30-15 03:06 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 
I read promethea like 10 years ago or something. It didn't attract me. Probably cuz I was not in the mood for it. Fuck. I don't even remember what it was about.

Trevor 04-30-15 03:13 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 12468466)
Required Alan Moore reading:

Miracleman
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
Swamp thing
From Hell
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vol. 1 and 2
Promethea

That's a pretty good order, with 1-4 almost tied for first imho. I'd put Swamp Thing farther up just because I was an impressionable kid new to comics when the character got his own book by Wein and Wrightson.

Also, his two Superman stories deserve a place in any comic fan's library. If I had to pick a single issue story as my all-time favorite it'd likely be "For the Man Who Has Everything".

brayzie 04-30-15 03:43 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12468472)
I read promethea like 10 years ago or something. It didn't attract me. Probably cuz I was not in the mood for it. Fuck. I don't even remember what it was about.

I stayed away from Promethea for the longest time because it looked too all-over-the-place. When I finally did read it, after reading Glory #0-2 and finding out Promethea is basically what Glory was supposed to be.
I thought it was great. The middle part when Moore is just explaining magic is boring. But when Sophia becomes Promthea, the Joker style character of the Painted Doll and her battle between Tom Strong were classic comic book moments.


Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12468487)
That's a pretty good order, with 1-4 almost tied for first imho. I'd put Swamp Thing farther up just because I was an impressionable kid new to comics when the character got his own book by Wein and Wrightson.

Also, his two Superman stories deserve a place in any comic fan's library. If I had to pick a single issue story as my all-time favorite it'd likely be "For the Man Who Has Everything".

I like "For the Man Who has Everything" much better than "What Ever Happened To the Man of Tomorrow."

I haven't read some of the comics on that list. I have read most of Alan Moore's work when he worked for Rob Liefeld:

1963 (60s Marvel at it's best and worst)
Supreme (pretty much Silver Age Superman)
Judgment Day (The DCU according to Alan Moore)
Youngblood (The Awesome Universe version of Teen Titans)
Glory (Wonder Woman)

From his ABC line I really liked TOP 10.

Tom Strong was well written, and I really loved the premise of each issue, but I never really cared for the main character or his supporting cast. I feel like it was Supreme-lite.

Greg MacGuffin 04-30-15 08:10 PM

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I loved his run on Supreme. If you guys like his Superman stories, I think it's mandatory reading.

PhantomStranger 04-30-15 09:10 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by Greg MacGuffin (Post 12468797)
I loved his run on Supreme. If you guys like his Superman stories, I think it's mandatory reading.

Supreme is easily the best extended run on Superman since the Silver Age. Wait, what!? Just like Miracleman is a thinly-veiled clone of Captain Marvel, Supreme is a thinly-veiled clone of the Silver Age Superman brought into the modern age.

DC should buy the rights to that character, Supreme was originally created by Rob Liefeld but the artist let Moore take the character and do anything he wanted with him. Probably the smartest thing that Rob Liefeld has ever done.

I am not as big a fan of Promethea, I don't think it ranks with Moore's other classic works.

brayzie 04-30-15 11:07 PM

Re: Marvel Comics buys the rights to Miracleman/Marvelman
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12468850)
Supreme is easily the best extended run on Superman since the Silver Age. Wait, what!? Just like Miracleman is a thinly-veiled clone of Captain Marvel, Supreme is a thinly-veiled clone of the Silver Age Superman brought into the modern age.

DC should buy the rights to that character, Supreme was originally created by Rob Liefeld but the artist let Moore take the character and do anything he wanted with him. Probably the smartest thing that Rob Liefeld has ever done.

I am not as big a fan of Promethea, I don't think it ranks with Moore's other classic works.

Why should DC buy the rights to Supreme though?

I agree , Liefeld letting Alan Moore do whatever he wanted with the Awesome/Extreme universe was the smartest thing he did. I'm pretty surprised though at how a lot of the very unique ideas that Moore introduced throughout his superhero comics career are strongly based on other people's work like this example, Superfolks, and Isaac Asimov's The Last Question and Moore's other Superman analog Mr. Majestic in "The Big Chill."


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