Comic Care and Storage Thread
#76
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Continuing my ranting/thinking out loud, I decided against putting the comics in storage. I think they'll be safer here at home, even though my upper floor does push 80 in the summers. Plus I really do want to get back into reading them and organizing them and filling in holes and probably getting rid of a good chunk of them. If I put them in storage I'll never make progress on those goals.
And even if that doesn't happen in the first month, it will definitely happen as time goes on. So, I don't see this as a viable - or cost-effective - option. In fact, I see long-term storage facilities as akin to flushing money down the toilet.
#77
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
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Good idea. Also, renting a storage space for anything other than a short-term period of time is an extreme waste of money. Even if you rent one for just a month for your excess comics, you may be spending more money on the storage than the comics are worth.
And even if that doesn't happen in the first month, it will definitely happen as time goes on. So, I don't see this as a viable - or cost-effective - option. In fact, I see long-term storage facilities as akin to flushing money down the toilet.
And even if that doesn't happen in the first month, it will definitely happen as time goes on. So, I don't see this as a viable - or cost-effective - option. In fact, I see long-term storage facilities as akin to flushing money down the toilet.
#79
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Thought I'd bump this again to post a few photos of my Comic Room. This shows the bulk of my collection, but I also have miscellaneous things like cards and whatnot in other closets.
The first two pix are the same wall - I just couldn't back up enough to get it all in one shot. The last pic is the closet in that room. I built the side shelves in there.




The first two pix are the same wall - I just couldn't back up enough to get it all in one shot. The last pic is the closet in that room. I built the side shelves in there.




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#81
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Thanks! The metal racks were a bit more than the plastic, but so much sturdier it's well worth the extra cost!
Has anyone been getting stuff from the BCW site? My last order was all screwed up because they kept changing the availability date for a back-ordered item. I eventually canceled it when they couldn't provide a date beyond "maybe by next month?". I just looked again (reluctantly!) because I need to order bags and boards again. Hardly anything is available! Probably 75-80% of their bags and boards are on backorder! A few not available until September! I don't know what's going on, but I'm having to buy off Ebay now, which sucks due to price mark-ups. Is BCW trying to ruin their own business?
Has anyone been getting stuff from the BCW site? My last order was all screwed up because they kept changing the availability date for a back-ordered item. I eventually canceled it when they couldn't provide a date beyond "maybe by next month?". I just looked again (reluctantly!) because I need to order bags and boards again. Hardly anything is available! Probably 75-80% of their bags and boards are on backorder! A few not available until September! I don't know what's going on, but I'm having to buy off Ebay now, which sucks due to price mark-ups. Is BCW trying to ruin their own business?
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story (03-02-21)
#82
Banned
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I ordered 10 of these racks last year when they were sold for $49.99. They fit 3 short boxes per shelf (12 boxes per rack). They are light but sturdy and fit well if you use BCW short boxes with the short houses.
https://www.sevilleclassics.com/5-ti...0-h-black.html
https://www.sevilleclassics.com/5-ti...0-h-black.html
#83
Banned
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Thanks! The metal racks were a bit more than the plastic, but so much sturdier it's well worth the extra cost!
Has anyone been getting stuff from the BCW site? My last order was all screwed up because they kept changing the availability date for a back-ordered item. I eventually canceled it when they couldn't provide a date beyond "maybe by next month?". I just looked again (reluctantly!) because I need to order bags and boards again. Hardly anything is available! Probably 75-80% of their bags and boards are on backorder! A few not available until September! I don't know what's going on, but I'm having to buy off Ebay now, which sucks due to price mark-ups. Is BCW trying to ruin their own business?
Has anyone been getting stuff from the BCW site? My last order was all screwed up because they kept changing the availability date for a back-ordered item. I eventually canceled it when they couldn't provide a date beyond "maybe by next month?". I just looked again (reluctantly!) because I need to order bags and boards again. Hardly anything is available! Probably 75-80% of their bags and boards are on backorder! A few not available until September! I don't know what's going on, but I'm having to buy off Ebay now, which sucks due to price mark-ups. Is BCW trying to ruin their own business?
#84
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BCW has been having issues getting their inventory since the pandemic started. Most, if not all, of their items are produced overseas and the raw material has been scarce as of mid July of 2020. I placed an order with them back in December for short boxes, silver age bags and boards and they were supposed to have shipped by the beginning of February. I'm still waiting for them and really need them.

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#85
Banned
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Ah, that makes sense. I kinda thought that the pandemic had some effect, but didn't consider the overseas aspect. Sucks that you're still waiting. And just think; even after BCW gets supplies and ships your stuff, you'll have to deal with the DeJoy Postal System delays! AUGH! 

#86
Needs to contact an admin about multiple accounts
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I work for the post office and you did the right thing going with UPS. The new policies are destroying the post office. No one agrees with anything he is doing.
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#87
Banned
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Prices for BCW supplies keep increasing and worst of all, everything is backordered.
#89
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Bumping for a Public Service Announcement!! 
I was rummaging through a box of comics today and came across my "extra" copies of Superman Forever (the one with the truly cool Alex Ross lenticular cover). But I noticed that there were spots - white-ish little spots all over them!! Pulling them out of the polypropalwhatzis bags, they appeared to have a powdery substance on them! With a soft cloth I was able to wipe it off and they look ... okay again. I'll be using mylar bags for them now, and hope there isn't some reaction to those.
Anyway, for those of you who have lenticular covers, you may want to check to ensure there isn't any weird chemical reaction going on.
Keep your comics safe!!


I was rummaging through a box of comics today and came across my "extra" copies of Superman Forever (the one with the truly cool Alex Ross lenticular cover). But I noticed that there were spots - white-ish little spots all over them!! Pulling them out of the polypropalwhatzis bags, they appeared to have a powdery substance on them! With a soft cloth I was able to wipe it off and they look ... okay again. I'll be using mylar bags for them now, and hope there isn't some reaction to those.
Anyway, for those of you who have lenticular covers, you may want to check to ensure there isn't any weird chemical reaction going on.
Keep your comics safe!!

Awhile back, when I was re-bagging and boarding my Superman books, I noticed my Superman Forever was the exact same way. I was able to clean it (carefully) but it as weird. My copy of Sensational Spider-Man #0 had the same issue. All other lenticular covers looked okay.

Curious, I grabbed my copied of Superman Forever (now in mylar, but still affected by rot!) and Sensation Spider-Man #0, which also was looking really sad! Both had a "tacky" feel to them, making me reluctant to want to wipe a cloth over them. So I let them sit out and "dry" for a few days. The Spider-Man book had the most improvement, and then looked great after a soft cloth wiping. Superman was a bit more difficult, but still a noticeable improvement! Below are Before and After shots of each.


I have no idea what's causing this, and am curious if it's more widespread. Anyone have any ideas?
#90
DVD Talk Hero
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Since the problem seems to clear up by itself (at least to some degree) when you take the comic or card out of its protective bag/sleeve, it sounds like the residue might be the lenticular plastic outgassing. When they're left sealed up, the gas doesn't have anywhere to go and either turns into a liquid or crystalizes, and when you take them out and leave them in the air for a while, it sublimates or evaporates.
#91
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Since the problem seems to clear up by itself (at least to some degree) when you take the comic or card out of its protective bag/sleeve, it sounds like the residue might be the lenticular plastic outgassing. When they're left sealed up, the gas doesn't have anywhere to go and either turns into a liquid or crystalizes, and when you take them out and leave them in the air for a while, it sublimates or evaporates.
#92
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The rot depends on the bag and board where the book is in. Seen the same type of issue with hologram covers. Some of the bag and boards sold back in the 90's were not truly acid free, thus creating this rot on these types of books. Changing the bags and boards does the trick for the most part.
#93
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The rot depends on the bag and board where the book is in. Seen the same type of issue with hologram covers. Some of the bag and boards sold back in the 90's were not truly acid free, thus creating this rot on these types of books. Changing the bags and boards does the trick for the most part.
#94
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That was one of the first things I considered, which is why I moved the Superman Forever into mylar. (I'm trying to remember if I tried to "clean" it before I did that, or if the rot returned anyway). But that also doesn't explain the Star Wars cards, in Ultra-Pro sleeves with no board. There just doesn't seem to be any consistency to the problem. But I appreciate the ideas and comments! Keep 'em comin'!
#96
DVD Talk Hero
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I learned the hard way not to use masking tape when sealing bags and boards. I bagged and boarded my entire collection back in the 1990s. Most times I'd use the normal scotch tape or whatever but a couple batches when I ran out I used very sticky masking tape. Stored away for years, the glue eventually melted and became a mess inside the longboxes. Didn't damage any comics but I more or less had to toss most of the bags.
One issue I've had opening old bagged comics of mine - the tape clings too well and makes opening them a real pain.
One issue I've had opening old bagged comics of mine - the tape clings too well and makes opening them a real pain.
#97
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Also, how many pieces of tape does everyone use? I used to use two half-inch wide strips, but then I switched to a single 3/4-inch wide strip in the middle.
#98
DVD Talk Hero
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This is how I keep my bags taped shut:

Two pieces of Scotch-brand Magic tape (green label) about 1 1/4" long on the sides. The tape is placed so that the bag is only sealed by about 1/8" of tape. This makes the bags easier to open; the tape less likely to stretch, misshape, or tear the bag; less likely for the tape to stick to the comic cover, and prevents the corners from folding up.

Two pieces of Scotch-brand Magic tape (green label) about 1 1/4" long on the sides. The tape is placed so that the bag is only sealed by about 1/8" of tape. This makes the bags easier to open; the tape less likely to stretch, misshape, or tear the bag; less likely for the tape to stick to the comic cover, and prevents the corners from folding up.
#99
DVD Talk Legend
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I use two pieces of tape but I do vertical not horizontal. What you say makes sense about being easier to open.
I like the Scotch matte tape but was cheap last time and got Dollar General brand and I can already tell it sticks too well and will be a problem in the future.
I like the Scotch matte tape but was cheap last time and got Dollar General brand and I can already tell it sticks too well and will be a problem in the future.
#100
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Since I have no idea what quality of tape I used decades ago, and got tired of mangling the bag trying to convince the tape to unstick itself, I've taken to using an exacto blade very carefully to slice the tape. Since there's a board underneath I know the comic is in no danger, and done gently enough, doesn't even scar the board. Then I just retape it when I'm done.