Bronkster

I only have one comic that is in the CGC case: Amazing Spider-man #1. Got it off Ebay without really knowing much about how unopenable the CGC cases were. Since I have another copy that isn't locked in a case that I can read when I want, I'm gonna sell the CGC'd copy. I can't see me ever CGC'ing a book that I planned on keeping.

Scorpio

You have two Amazing Spider Man 1's?

Bronkster

Yup, two Amazing Spider-man 1's. But I'm gonna sell the CGC'd one because it does me no good.

Scorpio

Wait, do you mean the new Amazing Spiderman where Marvel stupidly (IMO) started over with their numbering, or do you really have two of the 1st issues from 1963?

Bronkster

I'm talkin' the 1963 Spidey. Although, I do have a few of the new one also, in variant covers.

CharlesC

And its not a reprint?

That comic is worth over $30,000! And you have 2!

Bronkster

Mine are not near-mint, and therefore not worth anywhere close to $30,000. <damn>. I also have the Golden Record comic that I've seen people on Ebay try to pass off as the real deal. heh.

Seeker

CGC is for stuff in the 40's 50's and MAYBE 60's - like Aspiderman 1....

anything newer... give me a break.

Zodiac_Speaking

I would only CGC a few comic and only if I was to showcase them or sell them. No new comics under twenty years of age would be worth it; I'm talking about the Amazing Fantasy 15s, FF 1s, Showcase 4s, ect. For me, I would in the distant future CGC my Fantasic Four 2 and Daredevil 1. But honestly, the only reason to CGC is to show someone that your comic is in this or that condition. I've seen in Wizard magazine a comic no less than five months old, selling for $40+. That's luducris. I think when they CGC a comic then it should be worth near or around for what it is going for in a guide. CGC is a rip. Great way to seal and protect the comic, but is going to ruin the market.

H@mmer

I submit to CGC for grading and several books I got VF from Mile High came back 8.5, 9.0, 9.2 and 9.4. Some of their nm/mint books i got graded came back 9.6 and 9.8. If you are unfamiliar with comic grading these are very good grades for the books to get considering what Mile high sold them as.

RichardW

That's good to hear considering their prices are higher than other online vendors I've compared them to.

Jackskeleton

I can't support CGC. This is the very reason the industry went to shit in the mid 90's. Everyone felt that their issues were worth more than they actually were. You can't expect something to be really worth that come 2-3 years.

Here's an example of why i dislike CGC

http://store.yahoo.com/wizarduniverse/glreb1dc98.html

49.95 for the 4th printing of green lantern rebirth... WTF? This book just came out a couple months back. Why would anyone think of paying you 50 bucks for a book that you can very well find (because shit, it's the fourth god damn printing) for retail of 2.95. It doesn't make any sense for new books to be CGC'ed.

Another factor is that CGC is also backed by Wizard because they have a stake in it. I don't trust Wizards overblown price to begin with, but when you factor in the CGC price listing it just feels like they create a false market to begin with.

Do some books pick up great value? Sure NYX #3 sales for $40 or so. But that is because of a created hype for X-23 and the whole wolverine clone shit right now. See this title in a couple years and you'll be sure that the price drops a great deal.

As for grading, it's so subjective to begin with and all dependant on the mood of the grader on the day of grading. Get someone who's wife just bitched at you and you'll see a less grading for nothing that you had a hand in doing.

As for the grading points. I've seen soooooo many of these books in shops and I really never seen anything below a 9.5/9.6 So I have to question the whole system on that also.

TheNightFlier

49.95?????

Jackskeleton

You want to see scary.. these are books not even released yet and they go for that price range

http://store.yahoo.com/wizarduniverse/cgcsise.html

Can you imagine that? Not only do you not get to read the book, but you pay 10x's the cover price to have it mint.

And get the whole rating scam. Notice how nothing is rated 10.0 ?

See that. Even if they were sent to the fuck'n grading company DIRECTLY FROM BEING FUCK'N PRINTED WITHOUT BEING TOUCHED BY HUMAN HANDS they only get a fuck'n 9.5. You have to figure if it's based on condition, a comic book that has never been fuck'n touched by human hands should get higher if not the highest level. What the fuck would make a comic book be rated a 10?

Patman

CGC has turned comics into baseball cards, in the worse way.

Josh-da-man

CGC isn't a bad idea; to have a subjective grading standard for valuable comics in this day and age of internet trading. I know that I've had a few experiences on eBay with sellers who either don't know how to grade comics properly or outright lie about the condition; enough that have pretty much deterred me from buying any comics there at all. (And I don't even have that much interest in valuable comics, mind you.)

But all of the CGC action that involves newly released comics -- slabbing them, grading them, and selling them for outrageous prices -- is just destructive to the industry. I mean, who fucking cares about professionaly grading a newly released comic? It's fucking bullshit, it is.

Giantrobo

dammit! I was just now thinking about getting into this.

ben12

I love my CGC graded copy of Captain America v.2 #1 signed by Rob Leifeld, Jeph Loeb, and Chuck Dixon. But, then, I did it as a goof, after buying the comic for 25 cents and getting it signed by them after a couple years of con-going, there was nowhere else to go with it but get it CGCed. What a shitty comic.

kevin75

just out of curiousity, what grade is it and how much is it worth now?

Jackskeleton

HAHAHAHA. I'm sure since it's by Leifeld, it can easily go for MILLIONS!!

ben12

It got a 9.6 (which shocked me b/c I used to carry it around loose in comic convention bags for years during several big cons), and it is PRICELESS!!!

whotony

this topic died a quick death 4 years ago.

i still feel that same. in fact more annoyed by this.

i'm seeing books being solicited in the diamond previews twice.
once for the ordinary price and again for it in the vault for $40 or more.
for a brand new book not even out yet.

oh well, who cares i guess.

MBoyd

A 9.9 of the Turner cover of Supergirl was going for $200 on ebay this week. Unreal. And Batman Year 100 #1 was around a $100. i think it was a 9.8. I just don't see how you could get so precise in the grading. I looked at my issues and to my eye, even read, they looked at least that good. Maybe the next convention that has that going on I will get one done just to see what grade it gets.

bishop2knight

Grading of old pre-80s books is a good thing. It allows collectors to know exactly what they're getting with online auctions. This new modern grading stuff...that's for the birds (except maybe the signature series).

dadaluholla

I'm ok with CGC. I have some old books I'd like to have graded. Captain America #100, FF #8, FF #48, and a bunch of other OLD first apparances in Amazing Spider-Man, Avegners, and Uncanny X-Men. I never touch them anyway so i might as well get them sealed up for my kids to sell when i die.