Recommended Fantasy: The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
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Recommended Fantasy: The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
Seeing as I've all but given up on fantasy, it's something of a surprise that I read this. I'm of the opinion that 95% (conservatively) of classic fantasy is classic trash. But ... saw this paperback in the library as I was looking for a beach book for our trip to Cabo. On impulse I grabbed it.
Best fantasy book I've read since A Game of Thrones. The first several hundred pages are fantastic. The book drags a bit through the middle (there's a little too much Ender's Game/Ender's Shadow), and there's a sequence in the latter part that didn't seem to fit, but on the whole, a really enjoyable read. Even more impressive is that it's a first novel.
Anyway, since good fantasy is so hard to come by, thought I'd toss that out there. Anyone else read this?
Best fantasy book I've read since A Game of Thrones. The first several hundred pages are fantastic. The book drags a bit through the middle (there's a little too much Ender's Game/Ender's Shadow), and there's a sequence in the latter part that didn't seem to fit, but on the whole, a really enjoyable read. Even more impressive is that it's a first novel.
Anyway, since good fantasy is so hard to come by, thought I'd toss that out there. Anyone else read this?
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Totally freaky! I was just going to post a thread about this book.
I read a LOT of fantasy, I'd say that 95% of what I read is average at best or just total cliched crap. I just finished this book last night and this book is completely captivating and phenomenal when you take into account that it is the author's debut. It does not read like a first novel at all. Its the kind of book I just couldn't put down. I hate Harry Potter, and a large part of this book takes place with the main character going to a "magic" school of sorts but its a thousand times better than Harry Potter. I can't wait for the second Kingkiller Chronicle to hit this spring.
This book definitely gives the two things that seperate good fantasy from everything else. One, a unique engaging character, which it definitely has with it's lead (Kvothe), and two, it offers an original twist on the genre.
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It's not the best fantasy I've read since Martin, that still goes to the First Law Trilogy, but its definitely the second best.
I read a LOT of fantasy, I'd say that 95% of what I read is average at best or just total cliched crap. I just finished this book last night and this book is completely captivating and phenomenal when you take into account that it is the author's debut. It does not read like a first novel at all. Its the kind of book I just couldn't put down. I hate Harry Potter, and a large part of this book takes place with the main character going to a "magic" school of sorts but its a thousand times better than Harry Potter. I can't wait for the second Kingkiller Chronicle to hit this spring.
This book definitely gives the two things that seperate good fantasy from everything else. One, a unique engaging character, which it definitely has with it's lead (Kvothe), and two, it offers an original twist on the genre.
Is the part that you think felt out of place the whole thing with
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It's not the best fantasy I've read since Martin, that still goes to the First Law Trilogy, but its definitely the second best.
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TANGENT: other acclaimed fantasy + shenanigans in Amazon reviews of Rothfuss' oeuvre
Quite useful to see this because delving further led me to a suggestion elsewhere as to other notable fantasy work of the past decade viz. K.J. Bishop's "The Etched City" and Jonathan Stroud's Bartimaeus Trilogy of which I'd also not heard.
Not to wish to take this off-topic, but it was fun to see a recent Ansible article on the Amazon review shenanigans apparently perpetrated by 'Bob Direhack' a pseudonymised "author" thought to be jealous of Rothfuss' acclaim.
Not to wish to take this off-topic, but it was fun to see a recent Ansible article on the Amazon review shenanigans apparently perpetrated by 'Bob Direhack' a pseudonymised "author" thought to be jealous of Rothfuss' acclaim.
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A minor blip, though. When the rest of the book is that good, I'm willing to overlook it.
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Re: Recommended Fantasy: The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
Funny that you started this thread. This book is in my "to read" pile (or would that be a "to read file" on a Kindle?) for my trip to Grand Cayman next week. I'm really encouraged to see that so many people like it. I haven't found a new fantasy author I've really enjoyed in years, and I hope I like this one. The problem I've found with the new young fantasy authors in the last few years is that the characters have absolutely no depth. They read like characters in young adult novels. If I wanted to read something like "Twilight," I'd read "Twilight." I tried Abercrombie and it just didn't grip me, but maybe I'll give "The Blade Itself" another try.
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Not to wish to take this off-topic, but it was fun to see a recent Ansible article on the Amazon review shenanigans apparently perpetrated by 'Bob Direhack' a pseudonymised "author" thought to be jealous of Rothfuss' acclaim.
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Ahh, I'm not that bright. Interesting read. Never heard of this guy. But then, he's a self-published "author," so there's really no reason I should have.
Makes you wonder what's going through his head. Does he really think that trashing real authors is somehow going to make him more popular by comparison?
Makes you wonder what's going through his head. Does he really think that trashing real authors is somehow going to make him more popular by comparison?
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I've been having this sitting on the shelf since it came out but have never gotten around to reading it. Good to to hear all the positive comments, I guess I'll have to bump it up in the que a bit.
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Second book is out. Anyone shell out for the hardcover? Think I'll wait for the paperback or see if the library picks it up.
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I have a couple of questions about this. How long is the series supposed to be? And do these novels reach satisfying ending points (that you'd be fine with even if they're weren't more books coming), or do they feel like an incomplete part of a larger story?
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I believe it's intended to be a trilogy. And I felt satisfied with the first one. Without giving anything away, it takes you up to a certain, logical point in the story. That being said, you're going to want to follow up with the rest. There's one story that spans the trilogy. It's not a cliffhanger, but you're gonna want to know what happens next.
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Re: Recommended Fantasy: The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
I was pretty disappointed with the second book. The pacing is horrible, I really began to like Kvothe less and less as it went on, and the book doesn't resolve anything or really even move the plot forward. Rothfuss' lack of emotional maturity is really evident in this one. There are some interesting pieces of foreshadowing and worldbuilding backstory that have created quite a bit of buzz on some of the forums I frequent, but that doesn't save the novel as a whole.
Rothfuss is going to have his work cut out for him to progress the storyline up to the inn timeline in just one more book.
Rothfuss is going to have his work cut out for him to progress the storyline up to the inn timeline in just one more book.
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I was pretty disappointed with the second book. The pacing is horrible, I really began to like Kvothe less and less as it went on, and the book doesn't resolve anything or really even move the plot forward. Rothfuss' lack of emotional maturity is really evident in this one. There are some interesting pieces of foreshadowing and worldbuilding backstory that have created quite a bit of buzz on some of the forums I frequent, but that doesn't save the novel as a whole.
Rothfuss is going to have his work cut out for him to progress the storyline up to the inn timeline in just one more book.
Rothfuss is going to have his work cut out for him to progress the storyline up to the inn timeline in just one more book.
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I agree with you on the last point. He's had some big things happen, but nothing really as epic as is hinted at in the first book really, save one possibility.
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Interesting. I thought he did a great job of describing how a very gifted kid in their teens would act.
I agree with you on the last point. He's had some big things happen, but nothing really as epic as is hinted at in the first book really, save one possibility.
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I agree with you on the last point. He's had some big things happen, but nothing really as epic as is hinted at in the first book really, save one possibility.
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I just finished the first book and am debating starting the second. It's either that or Game of Thrones.
I thought it was good, but not great. It dragged a bit at times. I got sick of money problems driving the story. At times I think Kvothe forgets he's telling a story and think's he's getting audited, having to account for every half penny. And of course there is the problem of such a brilliant character acting pretty stupid at times. Still, the story is well told. It has an interesting plot and the world is well made. I'm disappointed to hear the next book doesn't move the story along as much as I had hoped.
I thought it was good, but not great. It dragged a bit at times. I got sick of money problems driving the story. At times I think Kvothe forgets he's telling a story and think's he's getting audited, having to account for every half penny. And of course there is the problem of such a brilliant character acting pretty stupid at times. Still, the story is well told. It has an interesting plot and the world is well made. I'm disappointed to hear the next book doesn't move the story along as much as I had hoped.
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I'm just finishing re-reading the first one and will dig into the second next. Looking forward to it. Wmansir, I agree that the poverty angle did drag a bit at times. Though as for the character making some bad choices ... we have to remember that for most of the first book, Kvothe is 15 years old. A brilliant 15-year-old is still pretty damned stupid at times. Making some idiotic choices is sort of in the job description.
The only part of Name of the Wind I didn't care for was the whole dracus episode. Just seemed entirely unnecessary. But it was fairly short, so I forgive Rothfuss that small misstep.
The only part of Name of the Wind I didn't care for was the whole dracus episode. Just seemed entirely unnecessary. But it was fairly short, so I forgive Rothfuss that small misstep.
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A quick heads up. I too did a reread of the first in anticipation of the second and though I really enjoyed it at the time, ultimately wished I hadn't. I have been plodding through Wise Man's Fear which, to put it nicely, drags in several places. I can't help but think that some of the dragging early in the book wouldn't have seemed that way if I had some distance between reading the first and second. I know you've probably been looking forward to WMF for awhile and that you don't know me from a hole in the wall, but I strongly encourage you to at least read one or two books in between.
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From my Amazon review (Rating 3 out of 5 stars):
Every time the story started to gain momentum, it slammed into a wall, March 31, 2011
Maybe the review title sounds like a pan, and I guess it is, but as much as I was absolutely enchanted by "The Name of the Wind", Rothfuss's followup "The Wise Man's Fear" left me tired and ultimately frustrated, and yet all the while I couldn't put it down. Many have spoken about how 1000 pages of story barely advanced anything in the grand scheme of things, and it's a sound argument. As pointed out by another review I read, WMF feels like Act 1: Part 2 rather then Act 2 of 3. It's a ***, maybe a *** 1/2 whereas the first one was a full *****.
Every time the story started to gain momentum, it slammed into a wall, March 31, 2011
Maybe the review title sounds like a pan, and I guess it is, but as much as I was absolutely enchanted by "The Name of the Wind", Rothfuss's followup "The Wise Man's Fear" left me tired and ultimately frustrated, and yet all the while I couldn't put it down. Many have spoken about how 1000 pages of story barely advanced anything in the grand scheme of things, and it's a sound argument. As pointed out by another review I read, WMF feels like Act 1: Part 2 rather then Act 2 of 3. It's a ***, maybe a *** 1/2 whereas the first one was a full *****.
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