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Which one did you read last, Jason? How many stars?
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
The last one I read was The Girl with the Long Green Heart, and I read Say It with Bullets right before that. Both were very enjoyable, although I'd probably give the edge to Say It With Bullets, but only slightly, and only because of its humor. I've taken a little break from the series to read a few other things (Cormac McCarthy's The Road, Max Brooks's World War Z, Woodward's State of Denial), but I'll return to the noir fold shortly...
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Anyway you (or others in this thread) would be willing to post a top 5 or top 10 list from the series? You know, for those who are yet to be initiated.
To update it though, I'd include Max Allan Collins' The Last Quarry to be included in that list.
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In general, I have been more impressed with their reprints than with their originals. So here are my Top 5 Reprints and Top 3 Originals (in no particular order):
Reprints:
361 by Donald E. Westlake
THE GIRL WITH THE LONG GREEN HEART by Lawrence Block
GRIFTER’S GAME by Lawrence Block
GRAVE DESCEND by John Lange
LEMONS NEVER LIE by Richard Stark
Originals:
THE COLORADO KID by Stephen King
BUST by Ken Bruen and Jason Starr
LITTLE GIRL LOST by Richard Aleas
I haven't read all of them, but there are a couple of others that I expect are good (like the Max Collins books). There are also several that I didn't care for and didn't finish.
Reprints:
361 by Donald E. Westlake
THE GIRL WITH THE LONG GREEN HEART by Lawrence Block
GRIFTER’S GAME by Lawrence Block
GRAVE DESCEND by John Lange
LEMONS NEVER LIE by Richard Stark
Originals:
THE COLORADO KID by Stephen King
BUST by Ken Bruen and Jason Starr
LITTLE GIRL LOST by Richard Aleas
I haven't read all of them, but there are a couple of others that I expect are good (like the Max Collins books). There are also several that I didn't care for and didn't finish.
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Okay, it's time for me to start buying these bad boys. But being a collector, I need first editions. Anyone know if they've started doing second prints on any of the books they've already published? If so, do they have a clear designation between printings so I can tell the difference?
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Okay so which is everyone's favorite book so far?
my vote goes to little girl lost
They updated their site:
December
February
March
April
May
June
AND COMING IN JULY!!!
my vote goes to little girl lost
They updated their site:
December
February
March
April
May
June
AND COMING IN JULY!!!
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We've been listing quite a few faves in the previous pages. Check 'em out! And in case no one noticed, that July title you're so excited about is the sequel to your own favorite, Little Girl Lost by Richard Aleas (Charles Ardai). Nice!
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Originally Posted by bishop2knight
Okay, it's time for me to start buying these bad boys. But being a collector, I need first editions. Anyone know if they've started doing second prints on any of the books they've already published? If so, do they have a clear designation between printings so I can tell the difference?
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Alas, telling which of our books is a first edition is not always easy (in fact, not always possible). But here are some clues:
* The first edition of our first dozen titles have no stiff card promoting the "Hard Case Crime Book Club" bound into the middle of the book.
* The first editions of books 13 through about 25, I think, have a card offering two books for the price of one; later editions offer one book/month for 43% off the cover price
* The first editions of our first six books have "Coming soon" on the page up front listing "OTHER HARD CASE CRIME BOOKS YOU WILL ENJOY"
* The first editions of our books sometimes have different ads in the back than later editions do
* The first editions of FADE TO BLONDE, LITTLE GIRL LOST, and THE CONFESSION make no mention on the front cover of winning the Shamus, being nominated for the Edgar, or winning the Edgar, respectively.
Other than that, I'm afraid it's a matter of guesswork. I apologize for not making it easier for hardcore collectors to be sure they have a first; it's mostly an artifact of the arrangement we have with Dorchester (we don't get to touch the books again before they go back to press for a second printing--that's all handled by Dorchester).
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Here's an interesting biographical piece about Charles Ardai, and it includes a brief history of the Hard Case Crime line...
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
I tried emailing the publisher, Charles Ardai, and he was kind enough to quickly respond with the following information:
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Alas, telling which of our books is a first edition is not always easy (in fact, not always possible). But here are some clues:
* The first edition of our first dozen titles have no stiff card promoting the "Hard Case Crime Book Club" bound into the middle of the book.
* The first editions of books 13 through about 25, I think, have a card offering two books for the price of one; later editions offer one book/month for 43% off the cover price
* The first editions of our first six books have "Coming soon" on the page up front listing "OTHER HARD CASE CRIME BOOKS YOU WILL ENJOY"
* The first editions of our books sometimes have different ads in the back than later editions do
* The first editions of FADE TO BLONDE, LITTLE GIRL LOST, and THE CONFESSION make no mention on the front cover of winning the Shamus, being nominated for the Edgar, or winning the Edgar, respectively.
Other than that, I'm afraid it's a matter of guesswork. I apologize for not making it easier for hardcore collectors to be sure they have a first; it's mostly an artifact of the arrangement we have with Dorchester (we don't get to touch the books again before they go back to press for a second printing--that's all handled by Dorchester).
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Alas, telling which of our books is a first edition is not always easy (in fact, not always possible). But here are some clues:
* The first edition of our first dozen titles have no stiff card promoting the "Hard Case Crime Book Club" bound into the middle of the book.
* The first editions of books 13 through about 25, I think, have a card offering two books for the price of one; later editions offer one book/month for 43% off the cover price
* The first editions of our first six books have "Coming soon" on the page up front listing "OTHER HARD CASE CRIME BOOKS YOU WILL ENJOY"
* The first editions of our books sometimes have different ads in the back than later editions do
* The first editions of FADE TO BLONDE, LITTLE GIRL LOST, and THE CONFESSION make no mention on the front cover of winning the Shamus, being nominated for the Edgar, or winning the Edgar, respectively.
Other than that, I'm afraid it's a matter of guesswork. I apologize for not making it easier for hardcore collectors to be sure they have a first; it's mostly an artifact of the arrangement we have with Dorchester (we don't get to touch the books again before they go back to press for a second printing--that's all handled by Dorchester).
Of course, for a true collector, he'd want to get all variations.
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So I guess this means I have first editions of little girl lost and grifters game and wait.............. I dont care. I can understanding wanting the whole collection to read and display on a bookshelf, but hard case crime is supposed to be paperback crime series, a dimestore novel, searching for first editions kind of misses the entire point of these.
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
Here's an interesting biographical piece about Charles Ardai, and it includes a brief history of the Hard Case Crime line...
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Originally Posted by lukewarmwater
So I guess this means I have first editions of little girl lost and grifters game and wait.............. I dont care. I can understanding wanting the whole collection to read and display on a bookshelf, but hard case crime is supposed to be paperback crime series, a dimestore novel, searching for first editions kind of misses the entire point of these.
Well, that's the life of a collector. Oh well.
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I've got the whole set, all of which are first printings, so if anyone has a marker they'd like me to look for on a particular book, just holler.
I also have ARCs of the originals they've done, which would be the true first printings.
I also have ARCs of the originals they've done, which would be the true first printings.
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Thanks for the link. I had known next to nothing about the man prior to reading this.
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Okay, I'm finally jumping on board. I'll start reading Block's GRIFTER'S GAME tonight. But after re-reading this thread, I noticed that there are lots of sequels. Anyone care to highlight which books are related to other books? I mean, if there are connections, I might as well read those titles back-to-back.
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The new Richard Aleas book is a sequel, and the Max Allan Collins' books are entries in his series. But other than that, I don't think any of them are sequels.
I just got an advanced copy of the new Block book (LUCKY AT CARDS) yesterday. I'm still not sure what book it is, so I'm looking forward to reading it. (It's an old one, that was originally published under a different title, using one of Block's pseudonyms.)
I just got an advanced copy of the new Block book (LUCKY AT CARDS) yesterday. I'm still not sure what book it is, so I'm looking forward to reading it. (It's an old one, that was originally published under a different title, using one of Block's pseudonyms.)
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I just got an advanced copy of the new Block book (LUCKY AT CARDS) yesterday. I'm still not sure what book it is, so I'm looking forward to reading it. (It's an old one, that was originally published under a different title, using one of Block's pseudonyms.)
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Just finished reading GRIFTER'S GAME. Holy cow, what a fantastic read. I had no idea. And that ending. That's one of the hardest, most enjoyable endings to a book I've read in forever. Fanbloodytastic.
If the other books in this series are this good or close, and if they're just as easy a read, then I'm hooked big time.
If the other books in this series are this good or close, and if they're just as easy a read, then I'm hooked big time.
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I finished David Dodge's The Last Match yesterday. My criticism of it is that it is overlong with too much filler. While not as good as Dodge's previous entry, Plunder of the Sun, it is still a solid addition to the HCC arsenal.
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That was basically what I said in my review of THE LAST MATCH. It definitely needed cutting down, but since the author was dead and couldn't approve changes, HCC just published it as is.
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Finished SAY IT WITH BULLETS last night. That was another good one. Started off a little slow, but the bulk of the book was pretty solid. Definitely had some nice, humorous banter between the Bill and Holly.
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Finished SAY IT WITH BULLETS last night. That was another good one. Started off a little slow, but the bulk of the book was pretty solid. Definitely had some nice, humorous banter between the Bill and Holly.
I'm currently reading this month's entry, Grave Descend by John Lange (aka Michael Crichton). So far, so good...