Does anyone else find the LOTR books a hard read?
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Does anyone else find the LOTR books a hard read?
Been trying to get through these books, onto the last one. All 3 have been hard to read. I haven't found them too exciting and I feel there's a lot in the books that doesn't help the story.
A lot of people have said that these books are the best. Personally I found Stephen Kings Dark Tower series much better. What am I missing?
A lot of people have said that these books are the best. Personally I found Stephen Kings Dark Tower series much better. What am I missing?
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Yes, these books can be a difficult read.
There are lots of characters and places that are checked off, complex family histories and general historis, often with little explanation, and occasionally things have more than one name. It's easy to get lost in the text.
I would strongly suggest anyone interested in the books see the movies first -- at least the first two, since they can help a reader get a "visual" and a general sense of the story.
Also, there are a couple of good guides available. My personal favorite is The Complete Guide to Middle Earth by Robert Foster. It's not illustrated, but it provides a good reference book for names and places, with everything listed from A to Z.
There are lots of characters and places that are checked off, complex family histories and general historis, often with little explanation, and occasionally things have more than one name. It's easy to get lost in the text.
I would strongly suggest anyone interested in the books see the movies first -- at least the first two, since they can help a reader get a "visual" and a general sense of the story.
Also, there are a couple of good guides available. My personal favorite is The Complete Guide to Middle Earth by Robert Foster. It's not illustrated, but it provides a good reference book for names and places, with everything listed from A to Z.
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It's odd; I like them, but I don't like reading them. The story is great, and some of the writing (the characters, events, dialogue, etc...) is really very engrossing, but I tell ya what, the last third or so of Fellowship just about kicked my ass. One of these days, I'll finally pick it back up and give The Two Towers a go.
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I had a hard time reading them too. It took me over a year to read them. I have only read them once, but when I go back to re-read a certain scene (to compare to the movie) I have found it much easier thanks to PJ's movies.
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I had a hard time when I first read them in 6th grade. Hobbit was fine, Fellowship was fine, but after that...TTT & ROTK were very hard reads
Revisited in H.S. they were much easier to read.
Revisisted in 1st year of college in '97, a bit easier.
Last revisited before TTT came into theaters...absorbed them just fine.
So I found they got easier to read as time went on.
Revisited in H.S. they were much easier to read.
Revisisted in 1st year of college in '97, a bit easier.
Last revisited before TTT came into theaters...absorbed them just fine.
So I found they got easier to read as time went on.
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I didn't read them until after the seeing the movies. I just didn't (and still don't) find the whole D&D (wizards, elves, ect) genre very interesting. But I loved the movies, so I gave them ago and found them a good read. A little awkward or slow at parts, but not particularly difficult.
Seeing the movies probably helped, but I also didn't try to follow every passage when Tolkien reveled in minutia. There are enough characters in the story that I would have gotten extremely bogged down trying to figure out all that lineage junk. I read every word of the story, but I zoned out during some parts. I barely looked at the indexes either.
Seeing the movies probably helped, but I also didn't try to follow every passage when Tolkien reveled in minutia. There are enough characters in the story that I would have gotten extremely bogged down trying to figure out all that lineage junk. I read every word of the story, but I zoned out during some parts. I barely looked at the indexes either.
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When they break into song in the books, I totally skip those parts. I do want to finish the third book, but it might be a challange. I even tried reading it on a long flight, but still couldn't do it. Maybe I'll get those audio books where I can just listen to it.
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I read them in high school. Read Hobbit first, and I really enjoyed it. Read Fellowship and it slowed down a bit, but I still liked it. Two Towers was very hard for me to read. It seemed so slow. After I got through that, Return of the King was a little better. I'll agree the LOTR books are a hard read, but I loved them. Even read the Silmarillion.
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Tolkien can be similar to Proust in that he can dedicate an entire page to describing a room or a piece of clothing. For most people, Fellowship is the most difficult part of the books to get through, as it is the slowest paced. However, for those who have attempted to read it and put it down, please give it another go. It is one of the most rewarding books I have ever read and certainly my favorite.
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I don't think Atlas Shrugged is a hard read at all. But then, it probably helps that I agree with the underlying philosophy so much and I like the way Rand gets it in.
As for LotR, I first read it (before I read The Hobbit) in the summer of 1966 before my sophomore year in college and before everyone else discovered it a year or two later. I didn't find it at all difficult (and I loved it). But in those days we weren't used to being bombarded with slam bang action instant gratification stuff so much.
Now, I never did get through The Silmarillion.
As for LotR, I first read it (before I read The Hobbit) in the summer of 1966 before my sophomore year in college and before everyone else discovered it a year or two later. I didn't find it at all difficult (and I loved it). But in those days we weren't used to being bombarded with slam bang action instant gratification stuff so much.
Now, I never did get through The Silmarillion.
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Despite its length, "Atlas Shrugged," is a fairly breezy read. Ayn does have a tendency to get preachy and speechy, though, and that can become tedious after a while.
I didn't have too many problems with "The Silmarillion." I think it's probably easier to get into if you've familiarized yourself with Tolkien's mythology. It's definitely not a good starting place for JRRT. But it reads like an incomplete work at best.
I'm ashamed to say this, but I've never even attempted to read "Ulysses." I know it's reputation, and it's just never sounded that interesting.
I didn't have too many problems with "The Silmarillion." I think it's probably easier to get into if you've familiarized yourself with Tolkien's mythology. It's definitely not a good starting place for JRRT. But it reads like an incomplete work at best.
I'm ashamed to say this, but I've never even attempted to read "Ulysses." I know it's reputation, and it's just never sounded that interesting.
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I found The Silmarillion to be the easiest of them to read. Well actually the Hobbit was the easiest and The Silmarillion was second. By the time I got to it I had read all the rest and was very much into Middle Earth and absorbed the book easily.
One thing I have found true about Fantasy books is you will either fly through them or they will drag on forever. It just depends on whether or not you get absorbed into the world the writer is trying to create. This is true of Tolkien, Brooks, Anthony, Goodkind or whoever. I read the new Brooks Shannara novel Tanequil in one day. Not because it was a great Fantasy novel (it wasn't bad though) but because I'm very familiar with the Shannara world and its characters and I ease into the stories very quickly.
Other stories like Newcombs The Chronicles of Blood and Stone series and even the Dragonriders of Pern series bored me to tears. Try as I might I could not get more than a chapter at a time before putting the books down and I never finished the first books of the series.
One thing I have found true about Fantasy books is you will either fly through them or they will drag on forever. It just depends on whether or not you get absorbed into the world the writer is trying to create. This is true of Tolkien, Brooks, Anthony, Goodkind or whoever. I read the new Brooks Shannara novel Tanequil in one day. Not because it was a great Fantasy novel (it wasn't bad though) but because I'm very familiar with the Shannara world and its characters and I ease into the stories very quickly.
Other stories like Newcombs The Chronicles of Blood and Stone series and even the Dragonriders of Pern series bored me to tears. Try as I might I could not get more than a chapter at a time before putting the books down and I never finished the first books of the series.
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Tolkien could have left a few passages out, but overall he wrote and effective story.
I read the books back in H.S. and have picked them up from time to time over the years, particulalry around the time the movies came out. The movies and films are two totally different mediums, and each has its strengths and weaknesses.
I read the books back in H.S. and have picked them up from time to time over the years, particulalry around the time the movies came out. The movies and films are two totally different mediums, and each has its strengths and weaknesses.
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
The first 100-200 pages are a little tough, but I couldn't put it down after that.
The first 100-200 pages are a little tough, but I couldn't put it down after that.
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As someone whose favorite genre is epic fantasy, I've been called a blasphemer when I say I dislike the books the Hobbit and the LOTR. Don't get me wrong - the basic story and the characters are fantastic, but boy oh boy do I hate the writing style. I never felt involved in the story, and it never felt engaging. That's why I was thrilled when they decided to make the films so well - all of the story, none of the filler that I find so boring. If you watch the extended editions, most of the story points are made, but no matter what version, the visuals are stunning. IMO the films accomplish what the books do not - they draw me in.
This is the only instance I can point to of a film being superior to a book (or series of books). Every once in a while I think I'll reread the trilogy, but I just can't force myself to slog through all of the minutiae to get to the good stuff. Most of the time it seemed more like a history tome than a set of novels, which is to say that the writing is so focused on lineage and development of a language that the story gets lost in the shuffle.
You're not the only one who didn't care for the writing, rest assured.
This is the only instance I can point to of a film being superior to a book (or series of books). Every once in a while I think I'll reread the trilogy, but I just can't force myself to slog through all of the minutiae to get to the good stuff. Most of the time it seemed more like a history tome than a set of novels, which is to say that the writing is so focused on lineage and development of a language that the story gets lost in the shuffle.
You're not the only one who didn't care for the writing, rest assured.
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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess
Most of the time it seemed more like a history tome than a set of novels,
Most of the time it seemed more like a history tome than a set of novels,
Remember, Tolkien's primary motivation in writing LOTR was to explore linguistics and mythology (both of which he was fascinated by), and how they intertwine.The result is a story that's not exactly standard, often with difficult (and sometimes difficultly similar) character and place names and lots of side material that exists only to fit and build the mythology.
Some people do find that harder to read. It's not what you're used to - nonstandard storytelling, in many places. The fact that it's so different is what attracts a lot of others, though. Tolkien didn't set out to write a set of novels. He set out to write a mythology - a fictional history. That's what he wanted.
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Originally posted by wmansir
I didn't read them until after the seeing the movies. I just didn't (and still don't) find the whole D&D (wizards, elves, ect) genre very interesting. But I loved the movies, so I gave them ago and found them a good read. A little awkward or slow at parts, but not particularly difficult.
I didn't read them until after the seeing the movies. I just didn't (and still don't) find the whole D&D (wizards, elves, ect) genre very interesting. But I loved the movies, so I gave them ago and found them a good read. A little awkward or slow at parts, but not particularly difficult.
I'm sure you're already aware of this, but just in case you're not. (note for the record that I'm NOT a high fantasy fanboy - I find 99% of it to be utter crap).
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