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mikehunt 09-04-01 02:44 PM

Planet of the Apes, the original book
 
I just finished the original book of planet of the apes, by Pierre Boulle, who also wrote Bride over the river kwai.
It is a very good book and I highly recommend it, especially for fans of both the old and new movie

Giantrobo 09-04-01 07:12 PM

I heard in the original book the apes had advanced technology and were not the semi-primitive apes we've seen in the movies.

In fact, I heard the cartoon is the MOST ACCURATE because the apes have planes and cars.

mikehunt 09-04-01 07:28 PM

yes, plus
Spoiler:
they also were beginning to go into space, using humans like we used chimps


basically they were at the some basic level as 1960's Earth, which is when the book was written (1963 I think)


Originally posted by Giantrobo
I heard in the original book the apes had advanced technology and were not the semi-primitive apes we've seen in the movies.

In fact, I heard the cartoon is the MOST ACCURATE because the apes have planes and cars.


Alvis 09-04-01 08:05 PM

Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 

Originally posted by mikehunt
I just finished the original book of planet of the apes, by Pierre Boulle, who also wrote Bride over the river kwai.
It is a very good book and I highly recommend it, especially for fans of both the old and new movie

Did you know there is also a separate movie novelization? I saw it at Barnes and Noble. So they released two editions for this movie.

mikehunt 09-04-01 09:23 PM

Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 
I wonder who did the movie novelization. My copy is new and the cover has a new movie looking gorila and the new style lettering from the movie for the title, but it is the original story. I'm glad I read it, good time killer between classes


Originally posted by Alvis


Did you know there is also a separate movie novelization? I saw it at Barnes and Noble. So they released two editions for this movie.


Alvis 09-05-01 06:03 AM

Re: Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 

Originally posted by mikehunt
I wonder who did the movie novelization. My copy is new and the cover has a new movie looking gorila and the new style lettering from the movie for the title, but it is the original story. I'm glad I read it, good time killer between classes


His name is William T. Quick. I never heard of him. Here's a link to Amazon for it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...686545-3039203

renaldow 09-05-01 12:48 PM

Having a movie tie in book is ridiculous when there's an original book to be re-released. It's bad enough when they take a good novel and put a movie star's face all over it, but to release a movie tie in book when a real book exists is unforgivable, IMHO.

I think a lot of people are doing what MH is. I tried to reserve Boulle's book at the library, and in all of the county (like 20 copies of it available for lending) I'm 36 or so on the wait list :)

mikehunt 09-05-01 01:19 PM

I didn't even know it was a book first, I think I first learned of it when amazon recommended it because I had ordered the box set when it first got released.
It'll be worth the wait, even if you hate waiting :)

benedict 09-05-01 02:08 PM

<small>

Originally posted by renaldow Having a movie tie in book is ridiculous when there's an original book to be re-released.
</small>Total Recall was also "novelised" despite there being a perfectly serviceable short story!!

Giantrobo 09-05-01 06:11 PM


Originally posted by renaldow
Having a movie tie in book is ridiculous when there's an original book to be re-released. It's bad enough when they take a good novel and put a movie star's face all over it, but to release a movie tie in book when a real book exists is unforgivable, IMHO.

I think a lot of people are doing what MH is. I tried to reserve Boulle's book at the library, and in all of the county (like 20 copies of it available for lending) I'm 36 or so on the wait list :)

Hmmm I see your point but I don't know.....

POTA 2001 isn't the same movie or book from the 60's so in a essence it IS a different deal.

So a seperate novel makes sense

renaldow 09-06-01 04:29 PM


Originally posted by Giantrobo
Hmmm I see your point but I don't know.....

POTA 2001 isn't the same movie or book from the 60's so in a essence it IS a different deal.

So a seperate novel makes sense

You need to be in marketing! ;)

naughty jonny 09-06-01 06:30 PM


Originally posted by benedict
<small></small>Total Recall was also "novelised" despite there being a perfectly serviceable short story!!
Except "We Can Remember it for you Wholesale" was pretty different to the movie :).

When you change a movie that much the original book, while having the same plot, may be saying a completely different thing. That rerelease of the book of the movie may be a completely different feel. (Think "10 Things I Hate About You", and then having to read Shakespeare to read the original text).

I would like to read the original, but I can understand many people wouldn't.

benedict 09-07-01 05:07 PM

:D You are right <b>nj</b>: I was playing, following on from <b>renaldow</b>'s post earlier on.

Giantrobo 09-07-01 09:15 PM


Originally posted by renaldow


You need to be in marketing! ;)


riiiight....if you were you wouldn't be wasting time here :johnwoo:

tor_greg 09-07-01 09:37 PM

What I really hate is when a book has been out for a long time and then a movie is made out of it, and suddenly every copy of the book from then on has the poster on the cover!!! Grrrr

benedict 09-08-01 04:59 AM

<b>tor_greg</b> what about when the novel on which a film is based but from which the film diverges cconsiderably is effectively re-titled to tie-in with the film?

When Blade Runner was released, Philip K Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was issued with the film poster graphics and its original title reduced to obscure small print!

I bet this would have confused a few readers. At least PKD's estate benefitted, I guess!

renaldow 09-10-01 12:05 PM

Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 

Originally posted by mikehunt
I just finished the original book of planet of the apes, by Pierre Boulle, who also wrote Bride over the river kwai.
It is a very good book and I highly recommend it, especially for fans of both the old and new movie

I lucked out and my library must've ordered extra copies to meet the demand because I got a brand new copy checked out on Fri! Read it over the weekend, and was impressed with it.

It read like a lot of other 1st person Sci-fi from that era, the idea of stranger explaining an alien society isn't a new one. But I really liked the subtle social commentary that runs through out the book.

I don't want to post any spoilers for people hoping to read the book, but it wasn't hard to guess the 'racial identity' of the couple at the beginning of the book. I did like it's originality in storyline compared to the 2 films out there. Next time anyone complains about the ending of the Marky Mark movie I'm going to make them read the book!

mikehunt 09-10-01 02:29 PM

Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 
that surprised me too


Originally posted by renaldow

Next time anyone complains about the ending of the Marky Mark movie I'm going to make them read the book!


renaldow 09-11-01 01:50 PM

Re: Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 

Originally posted by mikehunt
that surprised me too
Spoilerized for people not wanting the book ending ruined for them.

Spoiler:
I took it to mean that it was a 'universal truth' that humans would/could become complacent to a point where they began to devolve enough for another evolving species to surpass them, as that seems to be what happened on Earth and Soror. I didn't buy that Prof Antelle could get to a point that he could not be brought back though, or that Nova would be able to start learning on the level and speed that she did once off of Soror. I kept waiting for there to be some kind of lobotomy scar found on the Prof to explain his state.

mikehunt 09-11-01 07:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 
Spoiler:

me too about the scar, like the guy in the heston movie



Originally posted by renaldow


Spoilerized for people not wanting the book ending ruined for them.

Spoiler:
I took it to mean that it was a 'universal truth' that humans would/could become complacent to a point where they began to devolve enough for another evolving species to surpass them, as that seems to be what happened on Earth and Soror. I didn't buy that Prof Antelle could get to a point that he could not be brought back though, or that Nova would be able to start learning on the level and speed that she did once off of Soror. I kept waiting for there to be some kind of lobotomy scar found on the Prof to explain his state.


renaldow 09-11-01 09:35 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planet of the Apes, the original book
 

Originally posted by mikehunt
Spoiler:

me too about the scar, like the guy in the heston movie



Spoiler:

Exactly. I kept waiting for him to be shown some sort of treatment that would've explained it when he was being shown their neurological experiments.


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